So what's the consensus for most analog sounding converters in 2020? - Page 31

blayz2002 · 15th June 2024

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Originally Posted by Psyko Funk ➡️

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOLnOKit_50

Are the file level matched? Seems like A is slightly louder? Definitely seems that way on the 2nd section at least.

Sharp11 · 19th June 2024

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Originally Posted by Psyko Funk ➡️

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOLnOKit_50

Final converters Blind Test, let me know!

Unfortunately, we weren't able to match the levels well. But you can hear the differences.

If you’re not level - matched, you don’t have a valid test.

mutetourettes · 19th June 2024

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Originally Posted by living sounds ➡️

Converters from the 80s and 90s were technically different from today's delta sigma high order modulation converters with steep digital filters.

How many albums out today are made with tons of hardware and no ITB processing? And with people listening to a signal directly and not behind aforementioned modern converters?

I went to great lenghts to do all the processing (aside from things like level changes and slow noise gates and such) OTB and use converters with no ds and no steep filters. Do that and you get that "analog" sound.

hmm, what converters did you settle on? even my prism ad124 is delta/sigma

CEB · 19th June 2024

JCF, by far, is still the only one that sounds closest to the analog feed when you switch back and forth.

[email protected] · 19th June 2024

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Originally Posted by CEB ➡️

JCF, by far, is still the only one that sounds closest to the analog feed when you switch back and forth.

I haven’t tried that. But I preferred the “ clearness “ of the sound of my JCF AD8 more than my crane song hedd , which didn’t sound terrible

living sounds · 19th June 2024

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Originally Posted by mutetourettes ➡️

hmm, what converters did you settle on? even my prism ad124 is delta/sigma

I use a discrete resistor ladder multichannel DAC that I assembled from stereo boards. My AD of choice is the Lavry Gold MKIII.

Apart from delta sigma the filters used in modern converters and the way jitter supression is done (centered on higher frequencies rather than single digit and low double digit Hz jitter) seems to play a big role.

momomel · 20th June 2024

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Originally Posted by living sounds ➡️

I use a discrete resistor ladder multichannel DAC that I assembled from stereo boards. My AD of choice is the Lavry Gold MKIII.

How do you think about ESS compared to those exotic converters?

living sounds · 21st June 2024

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Originally Posted by momomel ➡️

How do you think about ESS compared to those exotic converters?

I wouldn't call them exotic, the conversion technology is a lot more straightforward than the complicated math of modern DS converters.

ESS sounds maybe a little clearer dynamically than others but has an artificial sheen on top like the rest of them. Of the DS converters I liked designs based on the Cirrus CS5381best, I think...

d1966 · 20th July 2024

Has anyone done a Merging Hapi vs Dangerous Music 8 channel Convert-8 DAC shootout? This happened between the Hapi and the 2 channel Convert-2 Dangerous Music Convert users?

But such comparisons are obviously inappropriate given the economics versus the number of channels.

Elisionary · 3 weeks ago

This is a pretty interesting comparison illustrating differences between converters:

https://youtu.be/0kLQyKR15NE?si=Y4OvWhc8HWESPVVm

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