Same here. Imaging feels great on my LYD48s.

Hmmm... interesting question, because yes I had also noticed the center was "soft" on these. Well, not exactly. What I do keep finding is I will be mixing for a while and suddenly, and frequently, my center image just feels slightly off. Why does that snare sound like it just one or two notches to the left?

Then I stop to check, solo stuff, and move my head around in the listening field, and after a few minutes discover the center information is indeed in the center, but why does my brain keep telling me that it is not... in this weird subliminal way?

I just chalked it up to never having worked extensively on a 3 way system and my brain had to get used to it. Coming from my old standbys, Dynaudio BM6A (original generation), I never had this issue once with the speakers in the same position and my room is pretty well treated.

Also has anyone else noticed that the tweeters at loud, but not even what I would call "pushing the limits", level sometimes actually physically "buckle" with transients – usually snare drum or tom attack? The fabric over the dome of my tweeter actually crumples inwards for a second! Really weird... Dynaudio replaced one for me, and then the other started doing it too. It has not seemed to impact the frequency response or otherwise damaged the speaker, but it can't be good.

I can't imagine there being enough information coming into the tweeter at any level to actually cause the dome to buckle, and wonder if the digital crossover filtering to the tweeter is somehow letting some undesirable information through, some level of dc even...

Whats your room setup like? Size of room? Space between speakers? audio interface?



Whats your room setup like? Size of room? Space between speakers? audio interface?


Im coming from LYD8's myself so its an interesting shift, I think part of it could be getting used to a 3 way speaker.

Ditto here, I would actually go as far as saying that centre image feels downright strong and very convincing in my setup.

I can’t recall the exact dimensions, but my room is something like 10’ x 13’ x 6.5’. It’s a little basement space. Pretty heavily treated. I’m using a Symphony MKII. My LYD48s are ~40" apart, woofer center to woofer center.

I had mine in a different room before, but now they're in a basement room similar to Ragan's that I'm turning into a home mix room. The dimensions are approximately 11 x 12 x 6.9 ft.

I'm in the process of building treatment for it (mostly thick absorbers and bass traps). In the meantime, I've put up some less-than-adequate temporary wall treatments (just some foam things I was given a long time ago).

The room measurements right now are better than I thought they'd be, but I need to address a bunch of modes and reflection points.

I have no issues with center image with my LYD 48s. I even get great height from them.

When I tried a really super-wide placement (just experimenting) I did see the center dissapear which is to be expected.

Have you tested them for phase?

I’ve noticed a little improvement with moving them a little more off the wall. They were about 8” from the wall before. Now they’re at 20” off the wall.

I’ve run pink noise and everything sounds fine. I think it’s really just my ears becoming acclimated to them versus the 2 way LYD. The center is there it’s just in headphones, cars, or through a phone the volume difference is maybe 3db? So what I hear in studio sounds less forward than how it plays back in other areas. But if I make the adjustment it translates well.

The other day I read that it's better for rear-ported speakers in smaller rooms to be placed as close to the front wall as possible without touching it.
Any truth to this?

Dynaudio recommends .5-1 full meter from a wall with the LYD lol

I bet they do, of course.
You can lol all you want, but I think it was a video from GIK acoustics, no less, who brought light to such notion, as crazy as it sounds.

my bad, I wasn't meaning to come across like im laughing at you. more so the situation at hand. I thought the whole thing was for front ported speakers to be place closer to the wall

this looks like the video you were referring to.

https://youtu.be/T10_MLGOBfc

No worries, I also always thought that to be the case with rear ports, the further from the front wall the better. Yes, that is exactly the video I had seen, and while at first the theory had me smh, it does kind of make sense, oddly enough.

I just tried getting mine closer to the wall. I have panels right behind the speakers already so they’re about 6” off

Didn’t notice too much difference initially. I did bump my sub crossover to 80 but I’ll probably back it down to 60 where it was. The LYD are fine up until about 60

I actually moved mine closer to the wall today (they were maybe 3" off before) and it's a substantial improvement, although I did move them a bit closer together too because I found I had them a bit wide for where I was sitting. Of course there is a huge interaction with the room, and I'm still on the journey of treating this room I have them in now. But for my room and listening position as of now, they do sound better against the wall. We'll see once I add more treatment and continue to optimize the listening and speaker positions with the treatment going in.

There seems to be more energy coming off the front wall now that they're right against the way, which is actually good, and the imaging seems to be a lot better and solid. Having the listening position tighter seems to help with the smaller room too. Hopefully I can implement enough absorption all away from the front wall.

When I initially set up my LYD 48 in my 10' x 12' x 9' room I had a 10dB dip at 100Hz with smaller dips at 50Hz and 200Hz using the Neutral and Zero settings and placing them about 1/3 out into the room and 1/4 from the sidewalls. My listening position was 2/3 out from the front wall and at the midway point from the sidewalls.

Room has soffit traps that are 10" x 18" around the side and rear wall/ceiling and 10" x 18" along the front wall/ceiling with DIY corner traps in the front corners floor to ceiling.

Seeing so many pictures here and elsewhere of people with their nearfield setups pushed closer to the front wall I decided to try it out. I flipped them to Wall/Dark and sure enough those dips were all filled and the -3dB point dropped from 40Hz to 28Hz.

It goes against everything I'd read regarding ideal speaker/listener placement but it worked!

BTW - just posted my LYD 48 in the classifieds if anyone's interested! They've served me well over the past 8 months that my music room was serving as a WFH office but with a return to the office in the near future I'll be going back to a traditional HiFi setup.

Just wanted to echo what you’re saying. This boundary interference can play a big part in bass response in smaller rooms.

I’m not using the LYD’s, I’m using Focal Shape Twins, but my room isn’t far off your dimensions and I had 12db dips and peaks at near enough the same frequencies, and I managed to reduce that by 6db by moving my monitors much closer to the front wall (about 6 inches away).

I personally haven’t noticed a difference using the wall setting. Has anyone figured out what it actually does?

Took ages for these to be in stock again but these monitors are pretty great, loving the mid-range clarity and the width and depth of the soundstage. Bass is surprisingly tight too.

My first taste of 3-ways and it certainly didn’t disappoint.

Nice!

They've been on back order for months everywhere!
Last week it seemed we were only a few days away from a new shipment arrived to the retailers and all of a sudden, back to 5-7 weeks wait.
Can't wait to get them!

How are you liking them?

Yeah mine were constantly delayed as well, they actually pushed it back another 5 weeks yet suddenly I got an email notification saying they were on their way.

I gotta say deff a step up from the 2-ways I've had over the years, Sceptre S8, JBL 305P MkII, Focal Shape 65 and Genelec 8030C, there's just a lot more headroom.

Conveys depth and width better, bass, mid-range and the high-end are more defined, and you can even hear certain textures in vocals and instruments. Something I was hard pressed to hear on a 2-way, though these are not the best that 2-ways can offer.

I find the upper mids on the 48's slightly fatiguing but I probably need to hunt down a room mode with Sonarworks, other than than that they do everything well, crossovers seem to be on point and they translate nicely.

However I do have a pair of KH310's in the back of my room here, which I still need to set up. Kind of reluctant at that because I may like them even better than the 48's. I luckily got them just before Neumann hiked the prices. (€1900 a piece )

Yeah, I suppose the KH 310 is just in another league entirely, and I would strongly consider them, but at double the price of the LYD 48, they got scratched off the list rather quickly.

I hear and read about the 310s being so damn neutral sounding that they can sound almost boring, but in the best of ways. In that higher price bracket I'd even look at the Dynaudio Core 47, beautiful speakers and perhaps closer to the 310 for comparisons, but there really isn't much talk about them, other than a few very positive reviews.

It’s pretty crazy that the measurements and the drivers of the KH310 are still up with some of the best monitors after all these years.

My dream monitors are the Genelec 8351B’s but I just can’t justify the price. For now I’ll just adjust the sound the best I can to accommodate my space and not look back for a long time, hopefully adaptive DSP based monitors are getting more common and a lot less expensive during that time.

The LYD 48 is certainly a unique proposition that can deliver a properly engineered 3-way without the exorbitant price tag. Certainly one of the reasons I just had to check it out before entering a different price class. Dyn’s Core series seems to have some nice improvements over the LYD series, but it has tough competition from other brands with the prices they’re asking for them.

Just popping in to mention i finally sold my Adam sub, and in turn bought one 18s to go with my Lyd48's and all i can say is YES. just with some fairly rudimentry measurements to input the distance settings along with the Lyd48 preset in the sub, it's sounding nice and tight and powerful. I liked the Lyds before but indeed could easily get up to a volume while working that felt like they were running out of headroom, with the occasional distortion. Now with the filter adjusted to +10hz and the sub, quite a bit more depth to the sound stage... really feels like a whole new world.

Dropping into this thread to express thanks to all who contributed over the previous 15 pages, I’ve read through them numerous times but finally sat here in immense enjoyment at the sound of my lyd 48’s, currently listening to Rival Consoles : Night Melody > Johannesburg

My Dynaudio LYD 48’s have arrived after a 3 month delay, replacing my previous KRK G4 Rokit 7’s and KRK 10S sub, not got them hooked up to the KRK sub just yet as I want to wait a while to see how they sound, although I will probably end up buying the Dynaudio 18S sub in the new year(or sooner).

My Cambridge Audio CXN v2 streamer is moving to a pull out shelf thats fixed to the underside of the desk (above the wee cabinet) so I can have a clean desktop.

They are a definite improvement on the KRK’s though (which is stating the bloody obvious), very wide and open with a fat juicy midrange that’s putting a big smile on my face.

Got a friend coming soon who’s had 25yrs of studio experience to do a full REW room eq sweep that I can implement in the roon software, I guess it makes sense to get my finger out and buy the Dynaudio 18S subwoofer before he turns up.

I’m not moving from my seat over the weekend till I develop pressure sores on my arse…….or my beer runs out………

Congrats! That's a beautiful setup!

My LYD 48 also arrived last week and I'm still completely smitten with them.
They are simply incredible and now I can see why they sell out as soon as retailers get a new shipment.
My jaw literally dropped to the floor when I first fired them up, the soundstage is huge, deep, they sound absolutely phenomenal.

Cheers 007, yeah i know what you mean about the wide soundstage, it feels like it’s an auditory wall of music in front of me that I can wade through, I thought my previous KRK setup was good (it still is, and good value for the cost) but these just highlighted how much of an artist’s recording I have been missing out on.

Rest of the room is treated which allows me to run -10hz and switched to dark, rear port is 60cm from GIK 4” 244 membrane panel and GIK corner bass traps but I’m still running on the speaker near wall setting for now, I think before the weekend is out I’ll have a 18s subwoofer on the way, if these lyd’s sound this good on their own imagine how good it’ll sound with an 18 s and REW implementation…………a couple more malt whiskys and I’ll be hitting that buy button.

A couple of pics showing the rest of the room treatment with krk’s in place, ceiling is also treated at first reflections with 3 GIK 242 panels. House is a work in progress and nice walnut floor going down in new year but I think I’ve got my priorities in the correct order.

That’s a sweet setup! Funny you mention the sub, as I mainly run mine without one. I turn it on fairly towards the end just to double check but I’ve gotten accustomed to mixing without the sub

Cheers cfen, unlike yourself working on a mix and needing to concentrate, I’m afforded the passive luxury of sitting on my arse and taking in the experience of listening to music, usually with a decent malt whisky, needless to say I now have the 18s sub which is very impressive for its small size.

What bass extension setting are you using on your LYD 48?

When I first set mine up I kept everything at neutral on the 'wall' setting.
Unfortunately I do not have any other options for positioning other than where they are, which is very close to the wall behind them. In fact the positioning looks very similar to Somafunk's picture above, only my shelf is higher where the tweeters are more at ear level, also have my external monitor just like that, between the two speakers. I went with the ISO mini pucks (4 under each monitor) and they are unbelievably efficient, zero vibrations anywhere near the speakers!

It's a strange phenomenon, during the first few days, playing various tunes I know, I was completely blown away at the detail, the 'bigness' (especially coming from JBL 305), the depth, clarity, phantom center, etc.

They are just so impressive in every way possible but there was also a 'newness' factor which often eludes us. That so-called honeymoon period where just the fact that they are new and sound so different that the prior set, we tend to overreact with joy, totally normal human behavior.

Admittedly, my ears adjusted to them much quicker than I expected, so much so that no more than a few weeks later I found myself longing for that 'wow' factor, lol, does that make sense?
I was just mixing away one afternoon and everything just sounded so normal, nothing exciting, to the point where I caught myself thinking, 'hmm...do I still feel like these are a huge leap from when I mixed on the JBL 305s or am I just already so used to them now?".

I know it sounds weird, and I'm still madly in love with these, but as all my focus shifted towards actual work and mixing, that 'honeymoon' seemed to have waned quickly, but all things considered, maybe that's a good thing, meaning ok I can just move on now and get stuff done instead of just throwing on tunes I love and sit there with that ear-to-ear smile in admiration of how good things sound, y'know?

So one morning I thought hmmm...wonder if I could get a bit more low-end from these pups. So I reached behind and switched the bass extension from 0 to -10, and if I'm honest, at first I couldn't really pick up much difference but after a few days my brain somehow perceived that they may have sounded better on the 0 setting rather than -10?

Perhaps it's my room, which has some decent treatment.
I thought maybe allowing more bass to escape from the cabinet with them being so close to the wall was actually causing a bit more of a low-end mush I was picking up in some subtle way? In other words, sure, they were outputting more bass but it wasn't in the most pleasing way due to their positioning.

The other day I went ahead and switched it back to 0 and lo and behold, I was smiling again, the mids and highs were a delight, these monitors sound so good, though all of a sudden it felt like there was a slight lack of bass, aaaaargh....I know, I know....my brain was like "dude, which is it already, you wanted more bass, I gave you more bass at -10, but then you weren't sure you liked it, then you switch back to 0 and now you're like hey where's my low-end at!" sigh...my ears are playing tricks on me as of late, but I'll experiment a bit more and figure it out the sweet spot.