This is a better shot of the speakers setup. Still loving the precision.

Few quick questions... have a set of LYD 48's coming this week.

1. recommended distance 1.5m to 2m... is this measured from tweeter to tweeter or cabinet tip to tip?

2. I have a pair of Adam A77x also, thinking about putting these on top of those (this would also help me for distance) any issues with that? I would use some isoacoustics to slant down

3. burn-in period... any recommendations? how long?

thanks in advance

It depends on your room and treatment. Distance from center woofer to woofer should be the same distance from where you sit (sweet spot) to woofer. The less treatment in corners, the closer together they need to be. I would not put LYD48 on top of anything due to the low bass they produce and you want to hear them isolated/decoupled from everything. I had to remove my speakers from the top of my LYD.

3 to 4 hours burn in worked for me with some really well rounded mixes such as Post Malone, Imagine Dragons, Arianna Grande, Chris Brown, H.E.R. and Maroon 5... They will give your speakers a full range work out.

1. Ideally tweeter to tweeter, forming an equilateral triangle with your ear

2. If the A77X base has the capacity to take the weight of the A77X + the 48, then you can consider it, but definitely not advisable. ISO Acoustics certainly help the speakers significantly and recommended, just bear the weight capacities in mind when setting these up.

3. Dynaudio's need about 25-30 hours of burn-in at moderate-loud volume. Yes, it is a difference you will notice!

Thanks @ dcoopermusic and @ Reesnat time to get the playlist together

I would advise against just blindly setting up speakers in equidistant setup!!!
You must listen for the best spacing in your room and your position. Have a friend pull one speaker away from other while you listen for that spot. If you get this wrong and you are too far apart or too close together it will mess up your ability to balance efficiently.

Still loving my LYD's after more than 2 years of use! Once I got them set up correctly they translate very good to other environments.

Man these things are definitely compact! Time for burn-in!

How do the LYD 48 compare to SM9 or Trio 6be ? thanks

Yes, careful listening is important once you have a basic symmetrical setup. Equidistant from side walls first. But then, experiment. When I widened the angle of my LYD48’s by toeing them outward a bit, to come to a point about a foot behind my head, the soundstage widened without sacrificing the phantom center.

I remain in the equidistant spot for more clinical/detail work. In this spot I see a bit of the inside edges of the cabinets due to the slight toe-out.

When I want to hear a mix sound more like MUSIC, I can back my head up to the point where the speakers converge. In this spot my head is further away from the speakers than they are from each other. The sound gels and of course the low end response changes a bit.

I would suggest making room measurements at both positions, so you know what's going on in your room.

My room is extra absorptive (rather dead sounding=very revealing of the monitors themselves. still needing diffusion)

I've had mine for a couple weeks now, and so far, so good. Very detailed, and capable of surprisingly low frequencies, given their size.

Curious as to what everyone thinks about using this in a normal (non-professional) listening environment? My room is small at 10W x 12D x 9H but treated, with soffit traps running the wall/ceiling perimeter and super chunk traps in the front corners. As a result of the room size it necessitates a near field listening environment to get the best sound so my thought is, why not use a pair designed for that type of arrangement?

I took a peek at the manual and their recommendations mirror the same speaker/listener placement that I have now, the only caveat being that I might end up with the woofers to the outside as opposed to the inside.

They'd be replacing a pair of KEF LS50W FWIW.

These monitors, in my similar sized, heavily treated, warm mastering room offer serious transient response and directionality as well as a mid-forward (500Hz?) sound unlike a hifi system. They are designed to reveal details in the broad midrange. They are very "tight" sounding and not hyped at all like Focal's. Less sexy, more revealing.

The 3 way design is most helpful coming from 2-way Dyn's (BM15a's) prior to
these. Vocals and stuff in the 2k area sound more natural.

Personally I wouldn't mess with the orientation--tweeters should be out, not in.

I know the manual mentions that's the preferred position but it says if it's easier to get the equilateral triangle with them out then that is more important.

I'm curious as to why that's the case - does it effect frequency response or phase in some way?

I think I've pretty much decided on these. I was looking at Neumann KH 120 and KH 80 with a sub, but I think I'd just prefer something fuller-range without the sub for now. I originally wanted to spend under $2k Canadian, but like many, I'm more and more willing to just put out the money for something I really need instead of spending less in the short term only to want to upgrade and spend more in the long term.

Anyway, bass extension is really important to me so that I can hear what kicks and synths are doing. Really excited to grab these in the coming days!

For whatever it's worth, I've had mine for a good while now and remain a big fan. I don't see myself replacing them for a long time, if ever. They're a joy to work on.

Thanks so much for the info. Your reviews and some others' helped me to make the decision. Real-world user feedback always helps a lot, and I saw that you were happily continuing to use them after getting them. Deckdaddy's reviews were also really helpful. Glad to hear they're still working so well for you.

Got back from my local store a couple of hours ago after placing my order! Excited to get these in. @ Ragan IIRC, I saw in one of the Neumann threads that you mentioned you had a pair of the KH 120s. I was initially looking at those but decided to go with the Dynaudios because of their bass extension and similar reviews of neutrality, etc. How do you think the two compared?

Sorry to keep flooding the thread. I'm just excited to get these babies in and start mixing on them. Deckdaddy -- how are you finding the Kii Threes? Are you finding them a massive step up from the Lyd 48s? Obviously the Kiis are much more expensive and I've seen great things said about them. Even some mastering guys are using them (Streaky for one, for whatever that's worth, lol).

Sorry, must be thinking of someone else. I haven’t heard those Neumanns.

Congrats on the purchase!

Yes, Kii Three is a big step up, and should be considering price and excellent design. The Kii has much more headroom, extend super low, tight clean bass. Super imaging, the cardioid bass really works acoustically, the even dispersion, everything is just so darn great well executed top to bottom, front to back, and with the new built in 6 EQ/filters in addition to the high and low shelf and wall settings I could stop using Sonarworks correction all together.

It's a joy to produce, mix, master and listen on, very revealing, and easy to work with, I like to hear details and a clear picture of what I'm doing, still they're not fatiguing to my sensitive ears. It's a very good fit for both me and my room. I tried them in my untreated living room for fun and it would be a waste of money, the room is still important and I really can't understand Hi Fi folks that buy crazy expensive good equipment and neglect acoustics, and then expect to hear massive minute details from expensive upgrades like cables.

But the LYD, or other well designed speakers, in a properly treated room, set up right, will work well, and there is always diminishing returns, so you pay exponentially more each step up from decent, to good, to great, to excellent. I consider the Kii and the room acoustic treatments my most important tools for my sonic goals. Which might be different to others. I'm not sure I'd enjoy making super squashed harsh pop mixes or masters on them, but then I wouldn't enjoy that on any speakers.

I'm also interested in hearing the Dynaudio Core line, not buying them but I expect greatness. If I had the space for another pair of speakers without compromising the Kii's setup, I'd like a two way from Dynaudio. I'm glad I don't have room for many pairs of speakers because it's fun, I'd have way too many, just like headphones, curiosity gets me.

Mind sharing what stands you're using? I'm having a hard time finding ones of the right height with a large enough top plate to be stable.

The Lyd 48s arrived yesterday and I set them up this morning! I've been listening to them for a couple hours now. I'm noticing they're sounding better as they burn in, or maybe my ears are just adjusting to them. In any case, I'm really happy with them. The mids are clear and non-fatiguing (so far), and it's hard not to turn them up and hear the great bass extension. The treble is also great and not hyped at all.

Overall, these are a wonderful upgrade from my JBL LSR305s. The big difference comes in the smooth headroom and greater frequency extension. The imaging is also much better, and I just heard something in a song that I've never heard before. I've listened to this song countless times and never realized that there's a low choir backing track way in the background. The Lyds are revealing it with depth and clarity.

I generally mix at low volumes to avoid ear fatigue/damage, excessive room interaction, and of course more focus on the midrange, and then I'll turn up a bit and test the bass at higher volumes. The JBLs had surprisingly good midrange for the price. But they ran out of headroom pretty quickly and couldn't output the bass response that I needed. The Lyd 48s seem to output good bass response even at low volumes and stay smooth when I turn them up. I'm not going to be mixing at crazy loud volumes, and so far they have enough headroom to stay smooth at volumes I typically work within.

Now, on a completely different note, I'm off to put some Carnhill transformers into some Klark Teknik EQPs.

I'm trying to decide between the Lyd's 48, PMC result 6 and ATC SCM 12 pro .
Unfortunately there's no store here that have all of them to compare, I liked all of them but you can't be sure until you get them home .
Anyone had the luck to directly compare the LYD's to PMC or ATC's?

Hi Guys !

I am happy to anounce that I just received my pair of LYD48 from Polish reseller. These days I am tired of my too-much acoustically treated studio room in which I make most mixing and I decided that I will start completely new adventure with mastering in my living room. You may consider it blasphemy but I think that everyone needs some listening perspective from time to time. Even listening in the car can be a bliss when you are tired of your studio sound no mater how good it is. Especially afret a long session. If the experiment in the living room fails I will return to the studio. But not yet !

So: LYD48's are in the living room staying on short stools because I still wait for the delivery of custom stands. It is temporary placement of course. Moreover they are in verical position now (temporarily) because otherwise tweeter would be half meter lower than my ear level. They just arrived and I checked "if they work". Despite the fact that there is some reverb in the room and acoustics is far from perfect I noticed these are great pair of monirors. Within few days I will write some more. Meanwhile please see attached frequency spectrum measured by ARC 3. Low frequency "sinusoid" is caused by room acoustics but upper frequencies are perfectly flat. There is a lot of coherency in the sound and the musical scene is very detailed. Among all room imperfections I heard some details that I never heard before in the songs that I thought I know by hard. I also confirm that these are not very loud monitors but unless you listen at insanely high volumes it does not matter.

Best, Tom

Thanks for your Informative post. These will most likely be my next purchase if I can find a set. May I ask what is that behind the monitor? Is it some sort of acoustic treatment? It looks cool.

Yes, it is an acoustic treatment - the panels are meant to absorb mid frequencies. But the room requires further teratment for sure. Nevertheless the results are good. I just finished the mastering of my new material and I am glad with the results. I will write some more about my "mastering strategies" in another post. Basically I send the signal in groups while mixing in my mixing room (another room - not this one) and I use few analog gear pieces at that time. Compressors, eqs on several groups. I record it in analog domain on Korg DSD recorder. The studio - mixing room is very heavily treated, every inch of the wall is covered with pyramid sponge panel and the floor is covered wit two layers of felt / wool blanket. There is no reverb at all in it, maybe small bass smear but negliable. Then I do mastering in my "living room" studio which you can see on fotos. Only few pieces of acoustic panels here and there. The room acoustics is "flat" but there is some reverb. I think it reminds more life - like scenario for the listening environment, moreover the room plays also a role of home cinema (and kitchen ) I sit about 2 m from speakers, so most of the sound I hear is direct, not reflected. I work here in digital domain only as the material has enough analog treatment made before. I find this method convenient: analog here, digital there.
Please note the IK ARC measurement of this room. The measurement is made without any EQ/ACR. What worries me is the "hole" around 120 Hz. It appears on other authors' measurements too. When I made tests with bass sweeps I think I can't hear it. Strange thing. I am still working on acoustic treatment of this room.
I have an impression these days, that after many session spent in acoustically deaf listening cabin I obtain better results in slightly reverberant room and the comfort of my work is better. At least on the last stage of production.

Best, Tom

PS And this is how my monitoring room looks like. So you can have an impression why do I want to escape to my living room sometimes..... I think that listening fatigue and the way to deal with it is another subject worth mentioning, maybe in another thread.

What stands are the LYD48s on? I love the design of them.

These are made by local craftsman. The total cost was about 150 (for two) euro with local shipping in Poland. Please PM me so I could give you his telephone, I think he ships abroad. Big parcels overseas can have substantial cost though and these things are heavy... Worth checking anyway. I will ask him tomorrow for email address. I hope he speaks English good enough to communicate.

T.

I'd just like to add that I'm using the LYD48s with IK's ARC 3 and it has been an absolute stellar winner for me

Finally I got mine today , burning them in now .
Waiting for the Sonarworks Mic so they will be even more focused.
If you guys have any tips on back switches how do you use them leave a comment.
I'm also curious about how you measure the distance between them from tweeter to tweeter?
So far so good , I really like them.