I am having problems with Cubase 12 and at this point tired of renewing versions and having glitches. Looking for a new software. Any suggestions? Former Cubase users join in.

Depends on what problems your having.
Maybe nothing to do with Cubase and you will have same problems with any DAW.

Mostly problems with the media... They seem to go into other addresses. I just think Cubase is unstable compared to protools or logic.....

Yes, as far as I know the Cubase codebase is 30+ years old and they just keep building on top of it, but I find Protools to be just as buggy for the same reason. Most of the newer DAWs we're written in modern times so they work a little better with modern operating systems Reaper, Cakewalk, Ableton, Presonus - take your pick.

the code base was re written about 10 years ago IIRC. or at least the whole audio engine.


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That would have been when Cubase SX came out and was based off Nuendo. In 2002..

LOL, so 20 years ago time flies at my age


anyway, Cubase Audio engine is pretty good now with ASIO guard. It will out perform most other DAW's in real world projects except perhaps Reaper



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I know I'll sound like a fanboy, but in my view Digital Performer smokes Cubase in terms of ease of use and also in sound quality.

I have Cubase (and Pro Tools, and Logic) but Cubase just seems to require too many extra steps to accomplish what I can so quickly do in DP. Particularly when it comes to VI's and effects..it should be easier to launch a VI, insert an effect, or add a track in Cubase, but it isn't compared to the other DAW's. Steinberg keeps adding features to it but a lot of the features just make it more bloated and bog you down with too many options.

I know..mention Digital Performer and a lot of people are like "huh?" But it remains the number one DAW for film composers, and for good reason. Pete Townshend, Paul McCartney, and Phil Collins have all used it, so it must be good enough for them...fact is, it really works like an old school tape recorder, very simple, and it has one feature no other DAW, including Cubase, has...the Tracks Overview window, where you can see all your audio tracks, Midi tracks, aux tracks, and master faders in the same window at the same time.

You can demo Digital Performer free..works both in Windows and Mac..

http://www.motu.com

Well, to be fair, McCartney may have tried every daw out there but he's been solidly on Cubase for a loooong time.

I've been a Windows user ever since dos 6.22 and owned Macs along the way whenever I absolutely had to for specialized projects. Windows is my native os language, so to speak.

For me personally, had Motu released Performer in a Windows format back in 1998, I may have jumped in. They certainly had press visibility during the years when Steinberg, Emagic, Cakewalk, and others were catering to Win users.

But Motu at the time....were doing the snooty, Cupertino fan boy thing, drinking the RDF koolaid, and leaving half a market potential out in the cold.....on purpose.

To their credit, motu did finally wise up and come around to full windows support (just in time for emagic to be absorbed into schizzo hell....but by then, I knew 2-3 daws inside out and wasn't gonna learn DP. Life is too short.

Maybe someday I'll try it, see how foreign the workflow feels, even maybe read the manual. If someone tells me dp uses actual honest to god vu meters instead of plasma meters, I:ll take a look sooner.

What does this mean? "the media" .. "other addresses" ?? Sound kind of vague.


I'm a happy Cubase user for over 20 years and it's my experience that in 90% of the cases where people have software issues it's actually a case of PICNIC...


Herwig

yup. i dont know what that means either. i am assuming he is talking about media pool. ??

Hi there! My operating system Windows 10. Maybe someone in the subject and advise which area to look and what to check (fix). In general, recently appeared the following:
1 issue - in the Edit tab in Cubase 12, selecting and clicking on the Key Commands, the window with the commands itself appears only after a minute or even more. Before that time, the cubase freezes at all, not allowing you to do anything in it.
2 issue - after loading and opening the project window with all the tracks, the cubase freezes for half a minute to a minute. (Depends on the number of treatments on the channel - the more of them, the longer freezes).
By the way, at the same time in the system is installed cubase 11, there projects after loading freezes for only 10 seconds and the Key Commands window opens 5 seconds after pressing it. That is, everything is much faster than in cubase 12.
By the way, when I first installed Cubase 12, it was faster than it was after a while.
Thanks!

Try opening with 3rd party plugins disabled.

I would also try to move a C12 project to a new drive just to see if there's an issue with the drive you're currently using. First 'prepare archive' to collect audio files then 'backup project' to new drive. Then open from new drive to test. That would be a pretty quick thing to test.

You could also try a clean project with not tracks or anything and see if that's any better, and then if it is better import one track at a time into that new project from one of the projects that are slow. Once the new project slows down you can maybe investigate what plugins you had on the last imported track as well as where the audio was stored. Things like that. Isolate parameters and check them out one by one.

Thanks for your advice! After some tests, I came to the conclusion that the problem lies in the plugins from Universal audio, specifically in their native version - UADx.
By the way, each new UADx plugin in the Inserts is loaded rather long (its very first copy). Then each subsequent copy of the same plugin opens almost instantly. And so with any other UADx plugin. The first instance takes a long time to load, all subsequent ones are faster. As a result, all projects with UADx plugins on board after downloading hangs for a long time (until it seems to be loaded in some background process). I wonder if this can be solved somehow?
By the way, this problem does not exist with the usual (non-native) plugins from UAD.
And yes, the first issue with the long loading Key Commands window is still not clear at all…

Well for me Cubase crashes every year or so - if that. And when it does it's invariably the fault of a third party plugin.

Addendum: the big step forward for reliability (for me) was dropping support for 32 bit.

My post on this thread is, what..nearly seven months old..you're just now getting around to reading it? Lol.

As for whether Studio One is superior to every other DAW..I shall leave that one alone..