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Originally Posted by
thenoodle
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As to focused use with only Cubase and Nuendo, I've been imaginating what Yamaha might come up with in, say, a $6000-$7000 range.....
A Nuage layout but with 8 faders? What gets incorporated from cc121 or Houston (if anything)
Well if we're talking about reality then my guess is they wouldn't include anything from cc121 because that'd cost money. The easiest way would be to just cut down the amount of faders to 8. But the again, on the first page:
"they could easily do a 16 or 24 channel controller only for 3500!"
This is
always the problem in these threads.
Zero consensus on price and features. They obviously couldn't put out something like the other person is suggesting at 3500 without cutting sales of Nuage down to zero (though it's probably close to zero anyway). And at 6-7k it's going to be a very hard sell since users want more faders at that price point.
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thenoodle
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I'm thinking from this approach....$13000 gets one a set of 16 nuage faders and then you pay more for add-ons to create a larger nuage system.
Soooo....Yamaha brings out an 8-fader version for seven grand, with various optional add-ons that could very well take you up to 13-grand.....at which point, many users would possibly say, ok, now I'm ready to move up to the larger nuage setups brcause I've tricked out the little system as far as it'll go.
I think that's possibly worse though at that price point. If you think Avid for a second then the great thing about s1 is that it's expandable up to I think four units, or three plus the dock or something like that. The s3 on the other hand isn't, so it's just 16 faders. So it's a slightly odd lineup because from the s3 to the next level where it's really modular it's a pretty big leap in price.
So I'm not sure that Yamaha creating something that is modular from 7-14k makes much sense if you can't also then go beyond that. They essentially end up with two product lines that both need production and support. Sounds very costly.
If anything if they were to come out with something smaller they might as well redesign the large stuff as well and make it scalable from 8 to 48 and beyond.
But like I said, I think the starting sales price point is just too high and the amount of people willing to pay too low, which in turn makes risk too high. Really I think it comes down to Nuage being priced "too high" to do something like this.
Probably the best idea (?) is to take an upcoming digital mixer and adapt it for control use with tight integration. That way they can still sell it to the digital mixer market and then people looking for a controller could maybe use that to integrate a complete setup like Dolby Atmos and more. At least that might keep production costs down even if R&D is high.
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thenoodle
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I'm tremendously interested in what others would specifically want in the design and/or add-ons.
Well everyone obviously want everything for nothing. But anyway, Nuage looks good to me, Blackmagic Design's Fairlight consoles look good to me, Avid's controllers look good to me.
Only thing I'd like to see is a dedicated EQ and dynamics section (knobs). It's such a common set of tools that having that on a center/focus panel so it's super easy to tweak would be great.
But other than that... The aforementioned controllers look good to me. So did WK-Audio's btw.