Ah, I got an email from them, I didn't see it there till later.

ya know... limiting oneself to an amount such as 700 bones for hardware, is not really necessary anymore.

for example, sweetwater has a credit card where one can get 36 and sometimes 48 month financing with no interest... that's how i bought my interface, speaks, compressor and mic pre a few years back.

cause 700 bones won't buy much in good hardware these days, i say get something you've been dreaming about and pay it off over time.

no compromise.

just do it.

Top ten plug-in...it's a necessity for me.

Get it from Thomann (if you're confident you'll keep it) and save even more. That's where I made my quick list from above. They even had an open box EC1 for $500. Until crazy tariffs go into effect (is that tomorrow?? who knows!).

yea... i only order new stuff from thomann at this point... and make sure i add the cost of a u.s power supply... but with all the hoopla, i'll prob just stick to u.s sellers till things settle down a bit.

was looking at getting a moog subsequent 25 a few days ago, being on sale atm and all... but i'm just not feelin it anymore.

thing is, i don't need anything... but sometimes i just wanna buy something. lol

i suppose, like an addictive drug... one needs to taper off slowly.

but for someone looking to get some good hardware for their home studio... i still say don't mess around... get what you really want... it'll make a positive difference in how one feels about the game in general.

I remember when “Mindbender” came out—the band was from Warner Robins, GA, where I was living as a young teenager. They were my first rock concert!

Decided to power more synths with guitar power (so to speak). I picked up a Cioks 8 to add to the Cioks 7.

I’ll power the following:
- Meraki
- Zelzah
- Polymoon
- MercuryX
- Acidbox III - takes 2
- SE-02 (synth) - takes 2
- Digitone (synth) - takes 3
- gs e7 (synth) - takes 4

The above takes all 15 outputs (several need to be combined).

Only synth not powered by Cioks will be the power hungry OB-6 desktop.

This is an experiment. If I need to rework the layout then the Digitone doesn’t benefit from clean power as it’s digital (I tested previously - it already had low noise floor), so I might keep it as is or try an IFi Silent Power I have and compare vs OEM power. It was more a convenience thing.

where did you go to school? which side? Northside or Warner Robins? lol i went to college for a bit with Rob Walker (guitar and vocals... played the talk box) i think he is teaching guitar last i heard. i also knew Al Scarborough the bass player. actually i was born in WR and now back there

small world

cheers

I have a mic I like quite a bit - JZ V67. It was cheapish, yeah ($700), but it sounds nice to me, and I've gone through many a mic over the years, some actually quite nice and some cheap garbage. This one sits as a 7 of ten on my history of mics.

See above.

The thing is (and I really don't mean this as a knock to anyone that loves them), I avoid UA completely. Only ever bought one plug from them (back in the early days of their price meltdown) and just wasn't that impressed. Maybe because it was a synth (opal) and not a studio type plugin. I would have thought about trying something else, but then the company just kind of got wacky. I didn't like them when they were elitist, and I like them less now.


I've never heard it before either. The only sound related post on the thread here is from someone who I tend to trust, though they don't post much. I read through their earlier posts and agree with a lot of what they have to say. They went from an SSL interface to the Heritage and really like it.

Also, @ andersmv did a walk through with it and I really liked the sound of the mix he got at the end of the video, and I find his approach in the reviews he does pretty straight forward and - for lack of a better phrase - non-shilly.

Also also, SOS, MusicRadar and MusicTech all seem to like it. So there's that. I sort of trust SOS.

Also also also, and not least, I truly am a space, and the Heritage purchase gives one access to all their plugins as well and has onboard DSP that you can use to monitor or destructively mix into. I have demoed their plugins and - while they are new to the software side of things - I liked the sound of their coding a fair bit more than UA (no offense to anyone and not saying that is correct, if there is such a thing). The plugin package triggers my 'we love our preciousses' button.

The cheap one (that is $650) has only one channel in and one pre, and I kind of trust a 650 dollar interface more that only has one channel at that price, if that makes sense.

I totally agree. I think the Scarlett has kind of started to shit the bed. my MOTU is pretty cheap and sounds great and has very low latency, which I like. I pulled the Scarlett out of a dusty closet for use in silent recording, and the sound is - like - bad. Weird digital phone style artifacts every few minutes (I tried different power supplies and USB cables). And my mic sounds like a different mic through it. So - yeah.

I would spend more, but we have been having torrential rain lately, and roof sprung a leak, and four different roofers came out to give quotes on fixing it and have all said - you need a new roof. So - that sucks. Unexpected $20k to the housing gods. :/

Thus the budget.


See above. The Heritage pre in this guy has been getting good press. And I literally never use more than one channel because I use mic ONLY for vocal anymore.

And, I am kind of wanting as little hardware as I can get away with. I'm just sick of cables and connectors and thinking about impedance and blah blah. I am stuck between being a hardware hater and acknowledging that it has it's place that - so far - is kind of irreplaceable.

Nod to EZ. But your patchbay triggers my PTSD, EZ.

Appreciate it. See above about new roof, lol. Add that to I don't use credit, really. Getting away from credit for anything but a mortgage or a vehicle has saved my ass many times and allowed me to have enough savings for, like, a $20k roof. Womp womp.

Yes! I am such an idiot (SPOILER ALERT) - I ordered it this afternoon during a boring meeting. I am impulsive at times and boring meetings don't help. Thomann has it for around a 100 dollars cheaper than what I got it for at Sweetwater. And I KNEW that trick. I just wasn't thinking. Oh well. Poop. I can return it if it sucks or doesn't do everything I want sonically. I will keep the thread posted in case anyone else is thinking along these lines.

I guess the tariff thing was in the back of my mind at some point. I hate international politics. Actually I can shorten that and just say, I hate politics. April 2 is just around the corner, when our valiant leader saves us money and makes us great again by making everything more expensive. I don't get it, but I'm a simple man.

I apologize for posting a question and then not coming back. Today got busy at work, and it wasn't supposed to.

Thank you all for your input. Love you, fam.

Anyone who uses TDR Collector to manage their TDR licenses got any issues today ?

I just looked , and it says all my plugins (I own) are installed and registered, but there are no valid licenses, and I can't update TDR Nova GE.

Really weird, never had an issue with them before.

I'm curious to know if anyone here has noticed a difference with Sweetwater sales or service since Chuck sold it?

I had the Behringer RD-78 on pre-order until my rep told me they wouldn't ship it until mid July. I canceled that order, and ordered from Alto Music. Alto told me end of March or early April, and it just arrived this past week. Alto doesn't exaggerate with their dates. I'm elated!

Sweetwater is pretty big. I'm surprised Behringer would ship to Alto now, but hold back with Sweetwater until July. I wonder if Sweetwater is demanding lower unit prices from Behringer in exchange for huge orders?

Good call, apparently 75% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck.

The richest 3% want you on the treadmill of endless credit monthly payments.

I always remember when I quit my job and had to do 3 months notice. Once word got about I was leaving I had a few conversations where people who I worked with wanted to quit aswell but said they couldn’t afford to. I said maybe you should get rid of that £60,000 SUV currently in the work car park and parked outside your house for 12 hours while your asleep.

Your monthly payment is keeping you trapped. While the value of the car tanks. I also said stop buying meaningless plugins

Just hit £9000 for my 4x4 fund

I have the JZ67. It's nice.

I'd also recommend to stretch for a Neve 88m. Those are 88RS preamps, they are absolutely great.

don't feel too bad... i ended up ordering one off of amazon a few hours ago. lol... they had three left where most others were out of stock, including sweetwater and thomann... i have a prime card that gives me 5% cash back when i buy off of amazon, so that's always nice... and it'll be here inside a week.

surprisingly thomann's dhl shipping is crazy fast... i usually get the item in a few days.

thomann has lower prices and no tax (for me anyways), but charges shipping... and ya gotta replace the eu power supply... it usually comes out to be a lower price than most others, but returns and such might be wacky... don't know... i think, at this point, it's just easier to do business within the u.s... i've been a prime member for 15 years and amazon has always taken care of me when stuff happens.

been watching tons of vids of the subsequent 25, 37, grandmother and matriarch... and the 25 just seems like the right move at this point... the sale price doesn't hurt either.

if the grandmother goes on sale for seven hundo in the future, i'll prob pick one of those up as well.

i'm selling my novation peak to pay for the 25... i think i can make it an even trade.

wholy s**t... i didn't even realize... lol

Moog Subsequent 25

Just updated via TDR Collector and it all worked fine.

Eh, that's weird, i'll give them a shout.

Cheers.

I just noticed that there was an update to TDR Collector. I updated the plug-ins with the previous version.

I have some demo versions installed and now TDR collector won't update those (says I need a license) which is weird.

Surely an update is an update, regardless of whether you're using the demo version... So maybe there's something up with the latest version of TDR collector.

Well it's weird cos after I read that, I opened it again, and its all authorised them fine and I could update Nova GE fine, so its all back to normal.

Maybe a server issue their end.

I'm very tempted by the grandmother at the moment.. what swung it to the sub25 for you?

it's simple but has lots of features, presets, software editor/plugin, looks, price and sound.

plus, i'm still learning how to patch semi modular synths... but moog does seem to make it all so easy to learn... to me, their layouts are clear and straight forward.

i'm hoping the gm will go on sale within the next year or so... and i will snag one when it does.

fair enough.. yeah the grandmother is definitely one you want to buy new with a long guarantee - seems they've had some issues... normally I'm a second-hand guy, but not for this :D

Some time ago I got an email from Rob Mayzes (I don't even remember who that is) with a code for a free plugin Plugin Alliance bx_refinement (NFR version, V2). It turns out that I had to sign up for some training or event from mastering.com and now they're giving away free licenses (the promotion lasts until May 20). Check your emails guys!

Hmmmm... maybe a PRS? I was PRS-curious for a long time, and many years ago I noodled around on one that my buddy owned - thought it played nice and sounded nice, but not enough to get me to drop thousands on one.

Fast-forward to a few months back and I got the opportunity to pick up one of their Indonesian SE Custom models (used). I am quite enjoying it. It plays very nice and the 24 frets make it much easier to boomer-bend in the top register while keeping the sound very 'solid'. Something that I find very satisfying is to switch from the HB to single coil by pulling out the tone knob. Lots of tonal variation right there at the finger tips. The tone overall is very sweet, full and resonant.

It's scratching the PRS itch for me for sure. It's a very nice playing and sounding guitar and I have no desire to spend thousands more for one of the USA models. I am sure they are objectively 'better', but not thousands better in terms of value (for me personally). If I ever want to move on, I'll easily get my money back, but I think she's a keeper.

Not sure that I would ever go out in public with her though. I'll go to her place and hang out with her, but we're not going out to a restaurant where my buddies can see me.

I just bought a bunch of custom sized power cables for the stuff in my racks. Total OCD move. Feels amazing.

Don’t look directly at the XLR/TRS snake pit disaster though. It’s like Raiders of the Lost Ark meets Medusa. You turn to stone…

Nice. Finding the right mic is half the battle. A lot of other things are interchangeable to an extent.

Your scarlet seems bricked.

I hear you on the 1 channel, but the nice thing with a 2x2 is you can run a stereo signal out through something later.

I agree with EZ and you about credit, but I do use the 0% from time to time. But I can pay it off at anytime. When I was in my early 20’s Chase gave me an $8k credit card limit at 11% interest despite the fact that I was unreasonably poor. So of course I ran up the card on gear to the max and they just kept raising the max and I kept running it up and paying the minimum payment. It got to $20k. Then they raised the interest rate to 30% because I was a “credit risk” because I had maxed out my available credit. It was my only card. I never missed a payment. It was pure loan sharking. I learned a tough lesson. Never again. If I can’t buy it cash, I don’t buy it. What a scam.

Sorry about your roof. That sucks.

Idk what’s going on in politics. I don’t have tv or social media. This is my news source lol. Is Trump getting rid of the Germany import de minimus? I love the German stuff. I’ve been on a Thomann rampage. Great experience and got a USA power thingy with the rme.

Ok that’s my morning rambling mess lol.

also if maybe the software side of the focusrite has caused pain, it's always worth considering RME offerings - their babyface pro is no slouch and will be in your price range I think...

Dang $677 on thomann. I didn’t realize it was so low. Less than the $800 de minimus for import taxes (make sure that doesn’t change tomorrow). I would strongly consider this. Good call!!