Originally Posted by Ben Jenssen ➡️

I felt the urge to cover this type of eq better in my arsenal, and checked out UA. I found that their Pulteq passive eq collection is free with any purchase untill november 30. .

Originally Posted by toofast ➡️

I will never understand the sound of the stock Logic Pultec and 1073 vintage emulations. I scratch my head at this phasy “doubler” effect on transients that immediately removes impact and blurs the punch, no way I would want this anywhere close to drums. The API one seems cool but the Neve or Pultec… I’m scratching my head at the way they affect the sound as soon as you pop them in. Is it just me? Like I could understand the appeal of the the mids and highs on the logic pultec on a vocal or something but why does it garble the integrity of the source in such a way just by instantiating the plugin? No good working hardware has that obvious of an effect so why model it that way?


Listen here on a vinyl drum break:

First pass, dry
Second pass, Logic Pultec, all switches at unity, drive at 0.


Edit: changing from natural to linear phase does improve things a bit but still not nearly as solid as Apogee, NoiseAsh

Originally Posted by Igro ➡️

I use Pultec for kicks mostly. UA Pultec EQP-1A is alsiasing as hell. I don't know, maybe it is not aliasing, but some sort on noise ("whiu-whiu-whiu" like). Set the low Boost to the max.Especially you hear it when putting 1176 comp afterwards and push it hard. Btw (if forget about the noise for a moment), it doesn't sound any better than Blackrooster one or even Bitwig native Pultec.

Originally Posted by elambo ➡️

Mixwave has entered the game. I've not tried it yet but reports have been very positive.

https://mixwave.com/products/pultec-eqp-1s3

Originally Posted by Sv0gthir ➡️

AA Purple.. (also some other pulteq style EQs that come in some of their other Acqua plugins)
AA Ruby

Originally Posted by Igro ➡️

I use Pultec for kicks mostly. UA Pultec EQP-1A is alsiasing as hell. I don't know, maybe it is not aliasing, but some sort on noise ("whiu-whiu-whiu" like). Set the low Boost to the max.Especially you hear it when putting 1176 comp afterwards and push it hard. Btw (if forget about the noise for a moment), it doesn't sound any better than Blackrooster one or even Bitwig native Pultec.

Originally Posted by e-are ➡️

Low boost to the max? That may be your problem. That's a lot of boost. Even with the output turned all the way down, it will blow up everything after. I use the UA pultecs a lot and I have 2 AML pultecs and a Tegeler EQP. Not HEARING anything weird from the UA's at all. I especially like the midrange eq.

Originally Posted by Captin Al ➡️

Well everyone is entitled to have their own opinion, maybe you have something odd with the way it was being processed as it def doesn’t sound like your describing nor should affect timing or transients. Try some real drums not a Vinyl loop that’s been mixed & compressed. Using a Pultech for low end on a kick drum is such a well known known process, it’s been used by engineers worldwide wide for many years, lots of emulations have been made of the classic EQ for exactly this reason, the newer ones like Logics have become the closest to the original as they are probably using a kind of convolution capture .

Originally Posted by Igro ➡️

Well, I said to the max to exaggerate the problem. Leave it to 50%, but then push the compressor hard afterwards. The whistle be there. I will do an audio example later on.

Originally Posted by toofast ➡️

I think it has something with the “drive” parameter which defaults at 4.0, which kinda nullifies my test from earlier in this thread. I got a better result putting the drive at zero. But it’s not just the Pultec.,load up the 1073 emulation on a kick and tell me if you hear any strange phase artifacts on the source? I’m really not trying to talk bad about LPX stock plug-ins because it is my DAW of choice and there are absolutely some “stock” gems I use daily in there.

Originally Posted by echotodd ➡️

I was playing around with Pultecs on drums (UAD, Noiseash, Logic, Waves) and the one I really find myself leaning into is the PSP Noble Ex. Fantastic EQ.

Originally Posted by toofast ➡️

I’m telling you, load up apogee eqp1a and meq together. You don’t even have to dial anything in. Nothing tops the solidity and richness. It kills UAD. I haven’t demoed Mixwave but I’m also not interested in any more Pultecs for now.

Originally Posted by Igro ➡️

Edit: Found the issue. UAD EQP‑1A couldn't handle the big bump at 5Hz (DC offset?) created by 909 kicks (that is how original Roland behaves and Drumazon 2 replicates that bump)...

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So here is an audio example, as promised.
There is a UAD 1176 Behind the Pultecs and it is pushed hard.

The first file is using Bitwigs own Pultec, the second is UAD (EQP-1A). Both set to 30Hz and Bass Boost maximum value.
If this is not aliasing, then what is this? Btw, BlackRooster and IK-Multimedia Pultecs are clean too.

Originally Posted by teezdalien ➡️

Ooft.. that's nasty. No wonder they're giving it away.

Originally Posted by KJandKT ➡️

That’s rather interesting. Do you have Apogee’s Pultec to try?

Originally Posted by Igro ➡️

Edit: Found the issue. UAD EQP‑1A couldn't handle the big bump at 5Hz (DC offset?) created by 909 kicks (that is how original Roland behaves and Drumazon 2 replicates that bump)...

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So here is an audio example, as promised.
There is a UAD 1176 Behind the Pultecs and it is pushed hard.

The first file is using Bitwigs own Pultec, the second is UAD (EQP-1A). Both set to 30Hz and Bass Boost maximum value.
If this is not aliasing, then what is this? Btw, BlackRooster and IK-Multimedia Pultecs are clean too.

Originally Posted by teezdalien ➡️

Sorry, think I missed your edit.
So following the EQP-1A with say TDR's Infrasonic or something similar removes those artefacts?
I mean those are pretty extreme settings and highly improbable in real world scenarios, but it's an interesting observation and revealing.