Are there any modules out there that support hz/volt natively, without converters such as English Tear?

Giggity giggity, giggity goo.

^^^This module really delivers, btw. Unreal toolkit and control box. Took a month to get here but the first hour in the case made it worth the wait. If you are at all considering it go for it.

Had my eye on that since the day it was announced, in the true nature of modular I'll have it eventually as I go down my list.

The Octocontroller looks great, but it disappoints me in the same way that the Trigger Riot and Peaks does.

No CV in.

I'd rather keep things a bit more open ended.

Cool stuff though

Got it otw! I got around Peaks lack of CV, somewhat, by using Linix CV in to ring mod the 808 kick and it was flippin' sweet!

Who sells power supplies that I can install with IEC? (I hate external PSU)
busboards and transformer...


does anyone ever mount walwarts inside their cases?

Doepfer.

I keep adding it up, proper rails, power transformer, busboards,
and the Low cost case is always cheaper!
it's like they don't want me to DIY!

Hi, I hope I have posted in right place, I did search and wasn't sure.
I'm somewhat a newbie at putting together a eurorack modules and I had a company put together a bunch of modules to start me up to making a medium system to compliment my the high-end keyboards and rack synths and soft synths in my studio. I would like to hear what you think about these selections to start me out and looking to add something a little at time every month or two. I will list them below. I told him that I like my stuff to sound "musical" cause I would like to develop my own line of quality samples to share with other artists and use in my own compositions.

I'm looking to build a system at this time and sell of some of my vintage stuff cause I have become tired of them and the amount of room they take up. Not that I need the money , so I'm not selling gear to fund anything. I'm starting to feel that the new stuff being made today sounds so great and is so much versatile and tactical.

Doepfer - A-190-3

Mutable Instruments - Elements

AJH Synth MiniMod - Transistor Ladder Filter

Doepfer - A-106-5 SEM

Doepfer - A-147-2 VCD LFO

Doepfer - A-145 LFO

Qu-Bit Electronix - Nano Rand

Mutable Instruments Links

Single Analog Oscillator

Doepfer - !143-2 Quad ADSR

TipTop - Z-DSP VC-Digital Signal Processor 24 Bit Variable Clock

Doepfer - A-135-1 QVCA / VCMIX Quad Linear VCA / Voltage Controlled Mixer

Dopfer - A-155 Analog / Trigger Sequencer

Dopfer - A-154 Sequencer Controller

Doepfer - A-100 PMS9 Analog Solutions 3 Tier Case which I don't know is over kill in price. i don't plan to move gear too much. Is this too expensive or is this a good case for my studio

Thank You

First off, welcome to the addiction!

It looks like you've got a well-rounded starter system, actually. I see a lot of Doepfer, and I see no problems with that since they make so much high-quality and versatile stuff. Maybe swap the A-145 for an A-143-3 so you have more LFO's? Might want to drop the A-154, and use the space for something else to start with.

I guess the real question is, what are you looking to accomplish? I know you said you were into melodic sounds, but are you after traditional subtractive synthesis, or are you longing for the weirder side of modular? I ask because while this is a decent starter system you have, it's also kinda vanilla. If you have a bunch of other synths, you might be disappointed with such a basic system.

Hi
Thank you
Well Im now kid and I love to design really good samples for EDM/Computer Production type music. I figured with what Im starting with here will lead me into some handpicked exotic tools as I grow into the system month by month. I tens to program my synth patches on my subtractive keyboard and Rack Gear synths to be more musical sounding, So I would like to use the modules to make new fresh sounds and develop them into excellent samples for both my compositions and sharing with other artists and producers. I write a lot of Alternative Techno also. I'm considering selling the vintage space eaters and concentrate on newer gear like euro and some of the better synths of today such as bit not limitrf to my Access Virus, Modal 002 and 008 , Soft Synths and VSTs , Hardwqare; Moog Voyager, Prophet 6, Sub 37, Odyssey Arp, Minilogue, MicroBrute etc that have been revised and are just wonderful to program on. Stuff like my Jupter 6, Junos. Oberhiems, Novation etc I mat wan to give up. ( Or maybe Not) Just like the feeling of moving in new direction of gear today that I think is just wonderful sounding.

I'm starting to think the hole might get deeper this year. I've started looking at drum modules. :(

You and me both, sir!

I might finally dive into Euro format in order to build myself a drum machine of sorts, but I need to get my hardware compression solution settled first.

Yea, I actually blame you for the GAS.

If you are about making samples and sound design you can probably lose the trigger sequencer, sequencer controller and NanoRand and replace them with more sound source building blocks.
Also, why the Z-DSP?

Filters are a matter of taste, subjective, but you have two quite conventional filters there. If you are doing sound design and contemporary techno, then you might want one conventional filter and one esoteric filter.

I have a question about this module
what's the difference between the "Signal In" and the "Gain"
is the Gain the same as a bias or offset?

This looks like pretty solid system. One common mistake new people often make is buying a bunch of super hyped big fancy modules at the expense of basic utility things like mixers/VCAs/mults. You definitely did not make that mistake here. If you are concerned about space there are a lot of companies that make smaller versions of the Deopfer offerings with the trade off of a higher price. Nano rand is an example which I see is on your list.

My only other thoughts are that Elements is very big and specialized for a starting set up. You might look at Rings which is in a similar vein but less HP and $$. I'd also make the most unoriginal suggestion in euro - Maths. It's not just hype, Maths really is one of the most useful modules IMO. Every patch I make Maths ends up completely covered in patch cables. It is just a very modular, module (that may not make sense now but after a little time with a modular, I think it will).

Signal in like the gain staging for the channel. Think of it like a preamp level on a mixer. The gain is the initial volume level. The CV controls start the VCA from this level. It sounds kinda asinine I know, but if you're using it as a mixer instead of a strict VCA bank, it's actually kinda awesome. Love this module and can't imagine my system without it.

Drum modules are VERY addictive. I started out with a couple just to feed my sampler. This is what I've ended up with in my drum rack over time:

It's worthwhile to note that an Alesis DM-5 costs about the same as one Tiptop module.

shucks, it seems a little redundant. I'm looking for something to use as a strict VCA bank, without the offset it wont do what I want. (the mixer element isn't something I'm seeing at the moment, but was a plus if I came across a use)

edit:
just to be clear that we're talking about the same thing, bias/offset, what it does:
lets say the CV input is an LFO±5v, the CV attenuation can make this LFO ±2.5v, the bias/offset +2.5v can add voltage to this signal to make it 0-5v (this would give a deep tremolo)
OR
lets say the CV input is a LFO 0-5v, the CV attenuation can make this LFO 0-1v, and the bias/offset +4v can add voltage to this signal to make it 4-5v. (this would give a very light tremolo)

the A-135-1 CAN'T do that???

Yeah, the price to performance ratio gets kinda weird with a lot of modules. Like, I love my Blue Lantern BMX to pieces, but it does kinda hurt a little knowing that for the cost of this six-channel mixer, I could have gotten a 16-channel standalone mixer. Is it still worth it? I think so. The convenience of a mixer integrated into my modular is worth it to me. Same with a DM5. Sure, a DM5 has twenty-four note polyphony vs. the one sound that a module can do, but it's worth it to me because the module has a different character, can be shaped in more ways than just pitch and envelope, and can be sequenced from any number of weird sequencing devices. Plus being analog, each hit is just a little tiny bit different from the last making the drums come to life.

Edit: It's also worth mentioning that going used for drum modules is a great idea right now. Most of these aren't the flavor of the month anymore and can be had for cheap. My ASol Concussor modules were $125 for all three of them.

Two birds with one stone? There's at least three euro compressors that I can think of off the top of my head. The EMW compressor is pretty much an essential module for me when I'm noodling. Push a mixdown through it with the kick drum too loud so that it triggers the compressor...

On the one hand, I love my modular, and the idea of adding drum abilities to it was irresistible. On the other hand, the price of my extant 7u causes me consternation. My partner recognizes its utility, but is even more alarmed by the price tag. A drum module was my happy medium, and I'm pretty happy with the results. Polyphony is not a strong suit in modular. The combination of a Roland TD-6 (which is actually what I ended up using) with a Circuit Abbey G8 is yielding pretty good results.

That said, I occasionally consider a Dinky's Taiko. But that would mean starting another enclosure and my wallet thinks this might be a poor idea. I also like the idea of continued cohabitation with my spouse.

A filter or distortion is a great way to add nonlinearity to digital sources. I usually like to add a little distortion to drums anyway.

Sorry to derail, but this is a peeve of mine right here. I don't understand how so many people on this forum have such a strange relationship with their spouse. If your loved one can't accept that you will and do spend inordinate amounts of money on gear, then why accept them as your partner? If your loved one is into collecting movies, books, video games, paintings, or lifesize wax figures, you wouldn't want to impede their desires, would you? It's your money, so spend it on whatever the hell you want to spend it on. That person has their own money, so they should spend it on whatever they would like. As long as it doesn't eat into basic living expenses, then who gives a flying cartoon bunny's anus?

*drops the mic*

Yeah this thing looks insane the future music review was excellent... I want

Marriage enlarges the scope of analysis to things like retirement. The price of a modular compounded by yearly interest rate times the years to retirement is potentially not insignificant. I think its a valid concern, and I appreciate the second opinion. YMMV.

Hi
Thanks for reply.
I'ma little confused, are you suggesting I not sequence within the system and use an external and do away with the trigger, controller and NanoRand
and
I was figuring the ladder filter was conventional cause I hear it as a "moogish" type sound, what would you suggest as filters to have both a conventional sound and a esoteric sound? Is there a filter you can think of that would be very different for me? I'm seaway looking you the holy grail of a sound different then what my studio gear does now.

The Z-DSP was suggested to me, I really don't have any hands on experience with it. I wanted some delay effects and after reading it seemed as if it was a little more versatile then just for delay, it offered other flavor and options to take on different cards producing more effect. I do have 500 series analog effects in my rack that I was going to route signal thru but I thought it was kinda of nice to have the effect onboard to keep workflow easy. Do you thing this is a waste?
Thanks

I'm confused. Are you suggesting the Maths over the Elements and the Rings?
Thanks