Probably would be good to note that you're a dealer in your sig ... might even by a rule here.



There are other speakers out there ... Focal, PMC, etc. It's not just these two. Each brand has a family sound and features that are truly taste.

And there are small, dynamic, low distortion 2 ways for when you're tired of these high power, low dynamic boxes with limiters and price point amps and converters in some cases.

Get a pair and mix in your room, or you have no idea. These online reviews of speakers are very limited unless you know the person from all their reviews.

True that. Room and placement and a speaker that sounds like you hear music in terms of it's response.

Plus the amps in these powered speakers are a fixed quantity and not great in many cases.

True dat as well, but eventually you stumble on a brand that makes sense to your sensibilities. I say just go with it expensive or dirt cheap. I'm all for what works $10K or 1200. You never know.

In this case the question is just between the Adams and Barefoot's guys...

is the first time that I see more than 2 continuous posts not making shine the BF's

Your overthinking this stuff.
Taking every post at face value from a bunch of random prople you don't know doesn't help the situation.
Posts don't tell you anything other than there are a lot of varied tastes among users.
Sorry but You can read gearslutz until your head spins right off.
The reality is You won't be able to make any solid evaluation until the darn things are in your room.
When you get them, dive in start mixng on them for a few weeks then you'll really know.
I personally hated the Adams but I'm not you , have never heard your music,haven't heard your room and have no idea where your production/mix skills are at.

In the end I know all of that.
Just calming the anxiety man, till the gear arrive :p

like I said I already ordered the BF 27 Gen2, but one thing is true, if after try them, I'm not completly in love, I will sell them for profit and I will seriously consider in step down for something like the Adam's S3X, Focals SM9 or even ATC SCM25A.


thanks for the contributions!
regards

Cool
The only other speaker in your list I'd consider would be the ATC's
The Focals and Adams not so much.
I also have a pair of Spiral Grooves which compliment the BF's in a great way.. So if your ever looking for a smaller mix speaker try them out.
But that's just my experience having used them all at one point or another.
Good luck

people who barefoot doesn't sound right or less good than adam have just a shitty room and should improve their acoustics first before stating that.
if anyone listend in a proper studio AB then the mm27 are superior in every single way to the whole Adam range.
Been there done that, more than once.

focal sm9 is another league ( lower) and Adam is almost same league but doesn't come close in the detail and low end precision.

Im in Argentina too, where are you located?

I bought the MM35 Gen 2 and been using them for a month. Great, great monitors, I dont think you cant go wrong with the 27s.

I'm sure of that buddy, regarding the opinions of people that I really trust,
thanks for your addition.

Like I said, I would step down to Focal or Adam only in the case that I feel that my room need more investment to take advantage of the BF's.

best regards.

Hey man!
what a nice studio.

I will PM you right now, I'm in Buenos Aires.

There is no "Step Down" to Focal or Adam from Barefoot / ATC etc. This is just someone who tells you that based on their personal preference, not a "fact" someone else could say Barefoot is a step down from Focal/Adam because they picked one of these over Barefoot, but again this is just not reality.

I don't rate the SM9 compared to S4X/Barefoots etc "personally, but others do and pick SM9 over Barefoot/ATC etc.

It's all about personal preference, like someone said above, don't listen to forum posts from people telling you what's best and lower league, it's all a load of nonsense, what matters is your own taste and thoughts on what fits you best.

Noted.

Yup, quite a few options, but this was just about the two mentioned.

After BF made it known there was an extra stage of conversion, every other user suddenly felt entitled to voice their dissatisfaction with the MM27s. You obviously made a decision to buy them based on your hearing and not an internet thread (one can hope...). Maybe you should start blaming your ears...

Hmm.. didn't know about this but then again, it's been around 4 years since I sold off my MM27's.

Judging by your avatar, seems to be that you were very satisfied with your Barefoot's. Why did you sell them? What did you buy?

regards.

I thought the same thing the first time I heard the SM9's. I recently found a good deal on a very lightly used pair, so I thought I'd give them another chance. I figured I can sell them if they don't thrill me, like I've done with all the others. I'm still trying to decide if I like them, and I can easily hear why I didn't the first time around. I also understand why so many others don't love them. They are brutal! If a mix isn't perfect, they really show it. It's really hard to find mixes that sound great on the Sm9's. So you can't just listen to music you know. You HAVE to do a mix to know if they work for you. If you just listen to old favorites, you definitely won't love what you hear. Personally, I find them much more dynamic, detailed, and revealing than MM27's (Gen 1), ATC 25's, or S3X. The EQ also really helped dial them in for my room. That said, I'm finding it difficult to make mix decisions on them if the tracks haven't been perfectly recorded. Garbage in equals garbage out like I've never experienced. It's really hard to polish turds on these, because no matter what you do, you can tell it's a turd. So, they're taking all of the fun out of mixing! Since it's what I do daily, I'm worried these might make my life miserable.

I've been speaker crazy my whole career. Always looking for a perfect monitor that could let me mix exactly how I want to hear things, and then have it translate perfectly to other systems. I now know that'll never happen, but I still enjoy changing things up from time to time, because I learn something each time I switch. I've had pretty much all of the popular nearfields. ProAc studio 100's have been a favorite that I keep going back to, but they still leave a little to be desired. They can sound beautiful before a mix is finished.

My experience with some of the others:

MM27's are a ton of fun, and make me feel like I can fly through a mix, but when I check on ProAc's, or NS10's, I realize I've still got a lot of work to do. They also felt weirdly grainy to me which I always assumed came from the added AD/DA stage. I had them for about a year. Mixed a few records on them, but never without ProAc's. Maybe worth noting that I had the best results with them set up horizontal, no idea why.

ATC 25's just seem like big NS10's that go lower, and sound prettier. They were lacking detail in the highs to me, and everything just had a nice sheen/pleasantness to it. Nothing like the larger ATC models! Had these for just a couple of months, and never really understood them.

Adam's are pretty great. They have a little bit of that everything sounds good character, but still really revealing. They seem to be a good mix of fun, and ultra precise. I don't know if they ever sorted out the port noise issues with the X model, but In tracking sessions, the noise would annoy me if the client wants to crank things. I bought S3XH's and returned them twice because of noises/rattles when they first came out. I assume they've got those issues under control now? I do still frequently work with S3A's at a client's studio. The whole time I'm working, I feel like I'm missing something, but things always translate really well. I just have issues with low end. End up with too much sub, and not enough meat.

I chose ADAM s3x-h's over the usual suspects.

Although I am not a fan of Adams that I have heard, disagree completely and suggest that the better your room acoustics the LESS difference expensive monitors make

Don't facepalm me.

I made my purchase decision based on trying them. I posted here based on using them in my space for an extended period of time. I have better results with other speakers and the extra stage of conversion is something that folks should know about before buying.

You have to use speakers for months before being able to make a good assessment IMO.

Very personal decision that shouldn't be scoffed at.

That's a very old pic that I haven't bothered to replace since I don't frequent Gearslutz that much as in the old days... I got the Barefoots when they first came out, tried to like them, but ended up selling them off and getting other monitors. Actually half the people I knew back then who bought them also have moved on to other models. One of the main monitors I now use is the ADAM S3X-H...

There's an extra stage of conversion in the MM27s??

No wonder I wasn't too impressed. Oh well, to each their own.

Anyone know the sample rate?

Thanks for your contributions.


Thanks for your reply,
and the reason of the move?

I’ve been testing these babies for some days now..

IMHO the micromain 35 and the S3X-H are pretty much in the same league, the most noticeable difference being that the barefoot go a little bit lower in frequency response, but I'd say there's more detail in the mid and high frequencies in the Adams. Reverbs and things like that are more evident on them.

Micromains 27 have an impressive bass definition and extension and are a bit more defined in the midrange. They have a bit less mid-bass (100 to 200Hz) than the other two.

that's a quite revealing opinion.
(thx 4 the pic(!))

S3X-H in the same league as MM35

so will you keep the MM's27 ?

Nope,

They are too expensive for my budget, and I tend to overemphasize the low mid frecs, so the fear of overdoing them on th 27s is big! LOL.
I'm thinking about the S3X-H plus a sub (for just a little help on those very, very low frecs), but that means dealing with a lot of other things...

By the way... the position of the barefoots does matter!

But the price of a pair of the S3X-H plus a sub is practically the same than the Barefoot's

So in your experience you feel a lack of low-mids in the MicroMain's 27, but good lows, high-mids and highs?

about the MM'27 do you prefer to use them horizontally?

OUTSTANDING!!! I LOVE when folks come in with points of view based upon their own testing!! Nice! Based on what I hear EVERYONE talking about, you HAVE to try the Geithains! EVERYONE says they are head and shoulders above EVERYTHING else.

Always been the case

Not everyone, amazing speakers again, but again not everyone likes them over others, its all subjective to ones personal taste.