oh wow! Richard Tancredi is in here!! A while back I did the usual recreation of Tell It To My Heart, it's such a powerful driving track, the bass drum pattern is bonkers. Some of the fast synth riffs I found a little too hard to get right but I'm no pro. Taylor's voice is sooo powerfull, perfect.
It's one of those all time great tracks for me, much to learn from every direction. Rich, if ya listening (reading)
Token of appreciation! Back in the day I got into music school - piano performance and composition using Tell it To Your Heart as one of my sound-a-like compositions. Atari 1040ST and a few cheap synths.. Thank You!
Interesting thread - did Rich Tancredi do "Prove Your Love" too? (It sounds in the ballpark to the first single, so I guess so.)
Back then, I had the 12"" CD single and I always thought it was one of the best sequenced/programmed/arranged/produced pieces of pop of the time, and I aspired to that level of quality, and to have the gear to be able to produce something like that... Loved everything about that track... So if so, and by chance you're still checking in to this thread... props - you made me rather jealous!
Interesting thread - did Rich Tancredi do "Prove Your Love" too? (It sounds in the ballpark to the first single, so I guess so.)
Back then, I had the 12"" CD single and I always thought it was one of the best sequenced/programmed/arranged/produced pieces of pop of the time, and I aspired to that level of quality, and to have the gear to be able to produce something like that... Loved everything about that track... So if so, and by chance you're still checking in to this thread... props - you made me rather jealous!
Yes....Yes he did! And....thank you for that reply. "Prove your love" was only considered a filler and I didnt get the song until we were almost done with the album so no one had high expectations for it. (Except me!) I recorded it in one very long marathon session in NYC that went to dawn. Once Taylor sang her vocals we realized that this was gonna be "something"....it ended up being the 2nd single and was out very quickly. Normally when I do a track it could be almost a year beofre its on the radio and by that time I've completely moved on in my mind that but that song was still "new" to me when I heard it on the radio.
I read it was Prophet VS so by being first, I didn't know you had answered when I answered kinda confirms it...
Sounds legit.
I have one, when you put it in unison mode you have 32 digital oscillators (with multiple forms of detune) with 8 kick ass analog filters under one note.
Trent Reznor used this trick a lot in his early work.
Those stabs were agonizing to record! I wanted each stab to fade in from the left and pan to the right but still have them sound like stabs! How do you fade in a stab? LOL It took a whole lot of patches midi'd up. Some ugly sounds to give it the raspy sctrachy effect. I remember it taking most of the tracking session just to get them right.
Those stabs were agonizing to record! I wanted each stab to fade in from the left and pan to the right but still have them sound like stabs! How do you fade in a stab? LOL It took a whole lot of patches midi'd up. Some ugly sounds to give it the raspy sctrachy effect. I remember it taking most of the tracking session just to get them right.
It's really cool because that fade in thing kind of give them a more-sample like quality - it evokes the old orchestra stab samples, they always have a weird attack - but yet with a modern huge, contemporary synth sound.
Very cool, and very distinctive. Worth the effort!
Those stabs were agonizing to record! I wanted each stab to fade in from the left and pan to the right but still have them sound like stabs! How do you fade in a stab? LOL It took a whole lot of patches midi'd up. Some ugly sounds to give it the raspy sctrachy effect. I remember it taking most of the tracking session just to get them right.
Incredible production and all that effort has resulted in amazing synth work that people are still talking about, appreciating, and trying to replicate 30 years later! The first time I heard those stabs I was blown away. I figured there must have been layers of patches with multiple lanes of sequenced MIDI CCs to control the patch swell exactly in time. Just mind boggling to think of how you pulled that off!
Some interesting tracks early on featuring Tancredi, one I know and used to have the 12"(or was it an album cut on Champion UK Label?) was Private Possesion - This Time, kind of like Colonel Abrams NY Garage/House, Also Les Lee - I'm The One You Want has production hints of his 'Tell It To My Heart' hit. Anyone into early NY Garage/Freestlye/Chicago House should find it interesting to check out his early works.
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Les Lee - I'm The One You Want has production hints of his 'Tell It To My Heart' hit.
Definitely does! That 16th sequencer synth line & sound in particular are very similar to Prove Your Love.
That's Taylor ("Les Lee" = "Leslie") on vocals on that track too, presumably?
Definitely does! That 16th sequencer synth line & sound in particular are very similar to Prove Your Love.
That's Taylor ("Les") on vocals on that track too, presumably?
Well....I AM Rich Tancredi and didnt use a Casio SK-1. on any of it. I used my minimoog with a CV Gate Trigger to mid box on Bass. TX for bells and my Emulator II for piano. I also used a Profit 5 for pads and an Oberheim Xpander for horns. (Also Taylors voice sampled for the ID line.
Damn - for some reason in the back of my mind the horns parts sounded
Oberheim to me. I guessed when I read the title of the thread.
Those stabs were agonizing to record! I wanted each stab to fade in from the left and pan to the right but still have them sound like stabs! How do you fade in a stab? LOL It took a whole lot of patches midi'd up. Some ugly sounds to give it the raspy sctrachy effect. I remember it taking most of the tracking session just to get them right.
It's great that you are still in this thread after 2 years. It's really interesting reading how you did things back then and what synths you used on all those classic tracks.
Also "Are you wid it".....That was the 1st track I did that made it on the radio. It was on the biggest radio station in NY at the time and it came on while I was driving my car. I had to pull over as I was so excited I almost drove off the road...LOL
Also "Are you wid it".....That was the 1st track I did that made it on the radio. It was on the biggest radio station in NY at the time and it came on while I was driving my car. I had to pull over as I was so excited I almost drove off the road...LOL
I remember mine too... the same. ... Then it got played across the country.
Incredible production and all that effort has resulted in amazing synth work that people are still talking about, appreciating, and trying to replicate 30 years later! The first time I heard those stabs I was blown away. I figured there must have been layers of patches with multiple lanes of sequenced MIDI CCs to control the patch swell exactly in time. Just mind boggling to think of how you pulled that off!
Well....I AM Rich Tancredi and didnt use a Casio SK-1. on any of it. I used my minimoog with a CV Gate Trigger to mid box on Bass. TX for bells and my Emulator II for piano. I also used a Profit 5 for pads and an Oberheim Xpander for horns. (Also Taylors voice sampled for the ID line.
This has to be the best Reply/Retort I have seen on any forum, anywhere, about anything, ever.
Well....I AM Rich Tancredi and didnt use a Casio SK-1. on any of it. I used my minimoog with a CV Gate Trigger to mid box on Bass. TX for bells and my Emulator II for piano. I also used a Profit 5 for pads and an Oberheim Xpander for horns. (Also Taylors voice sampled for the ID line.
Mr. Tancredi, could you please elaborate what you used for Drums?
I found this thread via Google wondering about the drums being used. As the answer is nowhere to be found I did some analysis.
The 727 was used for sure, it's easy to tell by some of the percussions, e.g. the Agogo. It seems that indeed the Linndrum 9000 was used as the hi hats sound like it but it's very difficult to confirm with the kick and snare that it's really a Linndrum 9000 due to reverb and compression. Finally in the Percappella Mix you can hear that also an 808 must have been used as it has 808 claves playing a 16th pattern.