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Originally Posted by
sofuon
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Just picked one of these up and I'm liking it so far but I'm annoyed at how tempo is set up. I was hoping to sync it to a drum machine which I haven't gotten working yet, but that means the Model 12 is the master tempo.
I don't understand why something as important as the tempo is buried 4 clicks deep in a menu, especially when there's a front panel tap tempo button already. I hooked up a footswitch thinking that would give me an always-on tap tempo function but it only works when you're in the tempo menu.
I think fixing this would make the whole thing a lot more user friendly if you're using the Model 12 as your master device to sync things to. They could add a setting that would switch the footswitch or the front panel button or both to always-on tap tempo and let the click on/off be in a menu instead. Or simply touching the click button should jump you directly to the tempo menu imo.
Am I missing something, is there a better way?
Not wanting to beat a dead horse, but just wanted to add that I agree this is a terrible UI/UX design choice, and am baffled as to how they never bothered to fix this in a firmware update. It honestly feels like they just forgot to add the functionality.
Why even include a "tap tempo" button if it can't be used except for
within the tempo screen (which the button also does not take you to
). There are 2 unused "function" buttons (the buttons immediately below the screen) on the tempo screen...either of these could have been used instead if they were going to insist you already have to be on that screen in the first place.
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Originally Posted by
jm2c
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I think its a valid critique with regards to the UI. There is already a button on the panel for tapping tempo, it could have been designed so that pressing it + something else would give direct access to setting the tempo. you know, just like how pressing the FX button takes you immediately to the fx settings menu.. But its a few clicks, its a minor annoyance at worst
Agreed, it is patently bizarre to put a "tempo" button on the front of the device that does nothing* unless you have already navigated to the tempo page. Like you said, clicking the FX button opens up the FX menu, I'm not sure why this is any different.
(*turns the click on and off)
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Originally Posted by
participhant
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with something like a Yamaha QY sequencer, you have a tempo track. you can have 'accelerando' or whatever. program a steady increase in temp over however many bars.
if you make a striped track, you can have tempo speeding up, slowing down. say if you use a drum machine and yank the tempo knob around, you will get that in your sync track.
probably gets a bit tricky. but how do you speed up/slow down against a fixed clock? (off to think about it)
don't see why the Model12 wouldn't have that capabilty.
Exactly- this really isn't that odd of a use-case, I often ramp down the tempo at the end of a song, or jump between BPMs at different parts of songs. Understandably some types of music would never need this functionality, but including it isn't detrimental to them. But you aren't going to be playing guitar and then "accidently" press and hold the tempo button and turn the encoder with your other hand. If you've found yourself in that situation you are probably midway through physically crashing into your console- a tempo change is probably the least of your worries
At least if the model 12 accepted clock-in from an external device then this wouldn't be an issue. Allowing for this also wouldn't affect anyone's work flow who
doesn't want to use an external clock, but just another weird limitation for those who would actually use it.
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