Congratulations to Eventide on the official release.Just ordered the license.I know they have the Omnipressor and 2016 natively out but I think this is for me the start of the more creative plugs, roll on the H3000 factory.Been using this like many others and since the last beta version its become a bit of an addiction.Incredible quality, fast, easy and sonically quite lovely imho.


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In their e-mail there's a link to a youtube video shootout where the hardware H8000 sounds way better than the plugin?!
Eventide BlackHole AAX plugin vs. H8000fw Hardware - YouTube
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Exactly.

I think i prefer d16 toraverb!

the beta was already in far too many sessions that I had to buy heh

This makes me want a Space pedal even more now.

- c

like it....it's been a VERY bad year for my 'plugin addiction'.....so much hot shit around.....got me crawling up the walls...(very bad for my sound baffles!)
to me..this says 'Paisley Park' reverb.....enough said!

The 8000 sounds better to my ears, too. Wider, richer, more organic. By comparison, the plugin reminds me of early 480L IRs where they had the right basic character but felt like plastic copies of the real thing.

This plugin doesn't seem that bad, and maybe the demo isn't a proper representation, but that demo certainly shows the hardware in a better light.

I no longer have an 8000 so I was hoping this plugin would help me get some of it back.

I went to the Eventide store and noticed that AnthologyII is on sale. Is this a sign that the Native version might finally be released (fingers crossed)? Maybe it's not a sign of anything.

maybe hardware is ALWAYS better...but who is gonna' buy an eventide hardware processor?....
that is a lottery win scenario.....a have it all dream.
that's why they are offering us this...
i bought an 'eclipse'...then returned it....too complicated!....i hope they keep on breaking stuff up into simpler concepts for us.

The video isn't from Eventide so I wonder if the settings are the same?
I tried the beta and like it but what a strange way of promoting their new plugin!

I would buy a racked version in a blink

A.

Hardware does indeed sound better in the demo.

Has anyone yet tried if the final copy is any louder than the beta?

I also realized when beta testing this that D16 Toraverb is not a bad substitute at all and has it's own distinct sound.

to bad its iLoked

Anyone got the trial working who ran beta first?

I tried installing the final release 14 day demo, but can't download the demo license to iLok since the beta license is there. I get this authorization challenge when trying to renew, how do I get the response to this challenge?

I remember Eventide clearly stating that the beta won't affect later demo, not quite so.

I didn't even know that the make plugins !! lol

Anybody tried other processors ?

Yes, they definitely fixed the "not loud enough" problem in the last beta I played with.

Get one!
I have one and I love it. I haven't bothered comparing it to any other reverbs and I have no idea of the quality versus any other hardware but to me it just sounds fantastic.

It's so easy to dial in stuff. I don't use any presets except for the first few, which are just the algorithms. A couple of knob twiddles later and it's just perfect.

I also updated it with the new firmware which added a freeze mode which lets you freeze the reverb and put it in a loop and cuts out any new dry signal from going into the looped reverb and just passes any new signal through the pedal. What this does it lets you hit a crazy chord or something and get some crazy reverb happening, make it loop and then solo over the crazy sound or improvise some new stuff, without disturbing the "reverb bed" you just set up. Great for some new, creative ideas.

I don't bother saving presets, I love writing everything down on recall sheets so the only negative I can really come up with is that once you dial in your settings, it defaults back to the preset name and there's no way to read your settings unless you disturb the knobs to re-activate the display. I really wish there was a way to step through the knob settings so I could write them all down one by one without disturbing my settings to see. That's about my only complaint. That, and there's no on/off switch. You have to either unplug it or cut the power to shut it off.

I initially thought the pedal was too quiet, but there's a function to boost the output by 6 dB which also words great.

I love it. I have it sitting next to a Strymon Timeline and together they can give me everything under the sun. Who would have guessed that my ideal effects setup would be two guitar pedals sitting on top of my rack.

Although I'm still lusting for a Moog Phaser pedal...I really should get one of those soon.

Regards,
Frank

Did he run it through H8000FW through analog audio or firewire? Thing is, that AD/DA converters could make the whole difference instead of direct ITB float processing

OR they could have deliberately made it worse, but why? It's only one algo! Never heard anyone buy a H8000 for the black hole alone...

Logic users may not want to choose a preset while the virtual keyboard (caps lock) is on, atleast it crashes my Logic session.

WHOA! BEST OF BOTH WORLDS!!!

Eventide

!! FREE Blackhole Native with purchase of Stompbox !!

Haha, just make sure you don't get eventide space then That one already has black hole!

Also watching the youtube comments on that shootout, ran the H8000FW on digital, so it's not a DAC thing with the sound difference.

I believe someone awhile back compared some of the same presets in the Eclipse and H8000 and they too sounded better on the H8000.

For a $3000 difference, I would hope so!

Regards,
Frank

I've never put an Eclipse next to an 8000, but I suspect that the extra $3K inside the 8000 goes to the additional channels of processing, not (necessarily) components which contribute to sound quality.

Had an Eclipse until recently when I got a H8000. Definitely better sounding but the Eclipse was no slouch.

Were you running them analog or digital? Were you able to compare the same patch on both machines?

Buy a Hardware Eventide stomp box and get the Blackhole plugin free, offer ends June 30 2012

http://www.eventide.com/Home/Eventid...holePromo.aspx

what is the most cost effective way to have something close to the Harmonizer sound?

Yes the plugin sounds 2d compared to the hardware in that demonstration, it lacks the creamy thickness...