That exists in the SlickEQ GE right now with the exception that it's a high or low shelf rather than both, or a high and and low shelf that are linked so they both boost or cut identically.

The way to address the extra band frustration is to start with the tilt first. Treat it as a shelf and you'll boost less because you're simultaneously cutting the opposite side.

Then you just have to install one of the mods that you can find in the blog post. I don't remember the link, but it's very easy. You end up with a high and low band and the mid band controls become Q controls and it can get extremely surgical.

It's definitely worth looking into.

Nova is amazing and very colourless. I don't really view it as a channel-EQ like SlickEQ (which also sounds very different!) or some other competitors. But for fixing stuff and massaging buses it's amazing! No colour options though.


I've looked into it, but for me personally the implementation so far is lacking. I know it's a minor gripe, but I hate how the interface doesn't reflect the changes made by the custom models and therefore the knobs don't do what it says on the label. A bigger gripe in my opinion is that even the value displays won't translate, so I'll have to look at a table to get a sense of the Q-values. Or say, if I wanted to use the Pultec EQP-1A model, I'd have to look at a picture reference from the guide and follow the lines to figure out what knob does what.

Anyway, didn't mean to completely derail this thread to the EQ plug-ins. I just wanted to give my thoughts on possible expansion of the limiter 6 rack concept from a "dynamics toolkit" to a "channel toolkit"!

Not as simple as it seems, quoting the manual:
" Precise+: Precise quality, with internal nonlinearity.
Insane+: Insane quality, with internal nonlinearity. "

Exactly what zvukofor said, be sure to click through the options up there, I normally have it running "Insane" with "surgical" curves, and frequently "dual mono", then it becomes literally mind-blowing. The only thing i don't gel with is the alpha release, tends to mess with the track movement more than do any good, so just disabling it (and the auto-gain, which is confusing) is enough to make it my preferable buss dynamic EQ. Nothing is as smooth and effective at the same time. Also, probably the best sounding filters in any dynamic EQ I've tested or own.

@ FabienTDR

I've been intrigued by the brickwall limiter in non brickwall mode for a bit of time now.
Between release "fast" and "1 ms", there is an enormous difference of behavior (which is not that way in brickwall mode, both setting are much closer).
Especially, the "fast" setting distords way less (at the cost of not limiting the output as much), but it seems counter-intuitive to what I would expect a faster release setting to be.
If you could share some insights about it, it would be appreciated !

This moves at the edge of the release automatism.

Transients tend to release very quickly, and then transition to much slower release (i.e. the recovery value shown on screen) once the RMS region is reached.

But the automatism produces distortion. In "Fast" the automatism effectively turns off, only using the fast internal stage (acting almost like a clipper). At 1ms, the automatism is still on, constantly transitioning between the fast stage and the "slow" 1ms stage, imposing its inherent distortion, without adding much benefit (auto release mechanisms themselves add distortion. Likely what you hear.). Maybe we should improve the behaviour at this specific point, to avoid this contradictory situation.

Thanks for your answer.
In brickwall it's way different though. Is it because the look-ahead time becomes the longest constant and it smooths it out between 1ms and fast while the attack in non-brickwall is very short / almost instant ?

I don't understand how they can sell this plugin 10 bucks.

It should never go lower than 50 buck on sale : it's an amazing piece of code and one of the best limiters around. And it's not even only a limiter but a compressor, a deesser and a clipper...

Surprises me too. I reckon TDR are part of the deal and they can decide for themselves. But one thing is for certain - it's a crazy attractive offer for those (not me) that haven't got it already - it's indeed an amazing piece of code.
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Mads

The effects of Pricing/Marketing are very nonlinear, often even chaotic at times (like turbulence in physics).

It's not intuitive. Its easy to underestimate the network effects (of pricing/marketing) across our product range, social media, early education (!) and the social circles we like to target.

This sale alone for example already attracted a fully filled Stadium of customers that we haven't managed to reach so far. That's relevant. And profitable. Not even considered the sales generated once they found out about their personal upgrade offers in their TDR library, or the amplified attention/"collectible-pressure" toward our next product releases.

We work tightly with our main resellers and grant them freedom to act, it's a huge win win win for all involved really. They cultivate communities far greater than a single manufacturer could handle.

Even our freeware is surprisingly profitable (due to intensive B2B licensing). All this stuff isn't intuitive, and it took me ages to accept how insane the psychology of money really is. I don't mean how people talk about money, I mean how people truly act with their hard earned money.

hey, of course you know better, because it's your product.
Actually, I prefer to use your plugins and pay less for them, than buying them ten times this price.
If it's a good strategy for you, I'm happy for you.

I think we are just a bit amazed that plugins that good are selling so cheap compared to many other plugins not that good selling 3 times the price (I'll not quote anyone ). And we just want to express how much we like your stuff...

@ FabienTDR - are you maybe working on a "saturation only" plugin?

I highly appreciate the flowers of course!

The above is no criticism about the pricing talks, I just tried to show the ratio behind. Be assured it's the developers themselves (Vlad and me) fully under control. Not a third party manager or whoever. We're about to release new products soon, and this helps prepare the field.

It's also interesting to note the increased average product price due to SimuLathe. These are rather high priced products in comparison.

When you say "selling 3 times the price", consider that an offer does not equal a sale. In case of discounts, say a 50% discount, intuition would tell you that it would lead to about double to four times the amount of sales. But reality is, it's more like 200 times as many. This stuff is mind blowing nonlinear.

Apple Silicon Ultrasonic Filters

(check the latest posts)

Special fx plugin or...?

New products soon sounds very promising!
A de-harsher (for tracks, busses and mastering) in the impeccable quality that TDR stands for, would be a dream come true for this user :-8
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Mads

Have you tried DeEdger ? Maybe harshness and edge are different things to your ears, apologies if so. It's a marvelous tool. I use it on most tunes I master, M/S and Compensate off being a starting point I find super useful.

Thanks, yes I have it. But for me it's a little limited in practical use. I will try the compensate off mode (never thought of using that actually) and see if that make a difference for me.
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Mads

I have to go in the other direction here, and say I'm pretty sure something like Pluginboutique (which I'm sure I've bought discounted TDR stuff in the past) is clearly a win win win situation. Sometimes I've got a bit of their store credits to take a few euros off the price, and that on top of a discount causes me to purchase something if I had already been looking into it.

Also, I remember starting like that and then ending up with all the plugins by taking a direct offer with TDR for the ones I didn't own.

Lastly, as for flowers, I've used Limiter 6 incessantly on electronic drums, but not really on the sum and not really while mastering, still a great plugin.

What I'd like to send a whole flowershop worth of flowers to Fabien is with TDR Nova GE. This is simply the best sounding dynamic equalizer I've ever used, and by far, like there's no contest (and I own a good bunch of them). I like Kirchhoff for when things need "fixing", but when you just want to touch-up and prepare for broader strokes, OR you want to side-chain space on a buss, there's literally nothing that can be as effective and as transparent out there.

BRAVO.

The low shelf with Nova when I want to clean vocals a bit more is by far the best I’ve used

Any plans to implement an input stage/knob? It would be much easier to hear if a module really helps to "relax" the following one without volume jumps. Manually copying the drive values makes the process a bit cumbersome.

Or maybe even think about another (simpler?) mode without individual drive knobs, since we can always adjust thresholds instead?

Hey guys. Does anyone know how to get in touch with developers?

I sent a couple of major bug reports this week when working in wavelab. I’ve had no response. Not sure if they are active enough at fixing things?

Thank

Gav

+2 (my current and alternative personality)

The whole team was travelling over the last weeks, but I can confirm that your report is listed (you sent 2 email afaik). We'll work on reproducing these on our systems over the next days and report back. Sorry for the wait.

Ah. Absolute legend.

Not a problem.

Look forward to your reply

Thanks

Gav

Missed the recent 40%. Black Friday is coming I suppose. Was a coupe I wanted to get.

If I could have a request for the next update, for this awesome plugin, that would be the possibility to use two clipper modules at the same time.
Love the "Open" and "LF. Clip" at the same time.

I actually don't use the plugin as a mastering tool, but I have it on all my buses without using the main Limiter module.
Just a little clipping, compression and HF limiter on the buses, and my DAW sounds like an analog console :-)

because of limiter 6? got any examples of it sounding console like, i'd be curious to hear?

use two plugins. one with „open“ and one with „lf clip“.

Not the limiter, I don't use the limiter. But because of the clipper, the compressor and HF limiter together … if that makes sense ?
I have a Cambridge MT mix you can listen to if you like.
My mix on this tune https://cambridge-mt.com/ms/mtk/#DinoOnTheLoose

I'm a bedroom mixer so don't expect the best mix in the world.
But this approach using TDR on the buses helped me a lot.
PM me and I can send you a link.