Thomann lists them as available at around April 7.

while not flat and a soso amplifier, i loved the bm5a mk1 sound

so i upgraded to the bm5a mk2.. and i hated it at a point that i never wanted to buy dynaudio again.. =)

now i'm wondering how this line is sounding.. at the price of the LYD48 you can have the atc scm 12 pro and many other that can compete..

let's hope dynaudio are back in the game..

the white lyd one are ugly as hell i would never want a white baffle on my studio speakers ever..

I always loved the smoothness of the BM6A. The only thing I didn't like (and what made me sell them) was the midrange black-hole. So this 3-way design with seperate midrange could very well be a decent improvement.

It would be nice to compare them with e.g. Neumann KH 310 (or other higher-end 3-way nearfields) to see how these Dyns hold up

Are people using these, already?

Heard them at Superbooth, apparently still not out for a few more weeks (mid May I was told).

They sounded incredible though, most imaging detail I've heard on mixes I thought I knew well and especially even at lower sensible volumes. Wasn't the best environment to demo monitors, but at least it wasn't on the show floor - in a separate mini "kids" theatre. Can't wait to try them again when my local dealer (Just Music in Berlin) get them in the demo room.

Hi Everyone,

I have been looking at these monitors and i just found out the have a DSP, this means, another pair of ADDA converters in my chain , isnt this supposed to degrade the signal?

Thanks

Ruben

It's not uncommon these days for active speakers to have their own DSPs.

As for signal quality... it's partly a question of trust, I guess. Do you trust the vendor to make a high quality product? Conversion is a possible issue in signal quality, but doesn't have to be one necessarily.
The DSP in these speakers is 24/96. So, of course, if anyone is into high res sound production, these speakers might not be the thing to go with. (Though there remains much that could be said about if / how much it matters with only the speakers).

In the end, I'd say: let your ears decide, not the spec sheet.

Well, DSP seems not a problem to me. Only down-side imo is that they have no digital input (to directly feed them a digital signal).

Was also my thought at first. But from a manufacturer's point of view, I can understand why they didn't put one.

First, decide for a protocol and socket type. There are many out there. So, with each decision, you make some users happy and many unhappy. Then, you need to decide on a sample and bit rate (or a switch, and still limited options). Again, make some happy and many unhappy.

So, either the user needs one of these "convert from and to all digital stuff" boxes. While the target audience (that I imagine the manufacturer has in mind for these speakers) probably will be reluctant using a Behringer Ultramatch, and at the same time be too low profile to have a 19" Mytek/Lynx/... converter box around.

Or, the other option, build that stuff into the speakers. Making them more expensive and thus again not meeting the target audience.

And by then we haven't even talked (explicitly, that is) about clocking...

I've now used the Lyd 48 monitors in my home studio for a couple of days. These are my first monitors, though I'm fairly familiar with hi-fi (and head-fi) in the same price range. The sound is superb and the imaging is the best I've heard (at this price range). Synth sounds with motion and panning really come alive and sound richer than I've ever heard them before. I've re-discovered patches that I previously thought were quite dull. Especially my Jupiter-80, which uses lots of layering, has really come alive. There are so many beautiful details and nuances in those sounds that I couldn't really appreciate before. It's like the monitors are able to open up the sounds and reveal all the layers separately. I love it!

Unfortunately, there is one disappointing characteristic that ruins the otherwise perfect purchase. When the monitors are on they emit a quite noticeable (white) noise. I like to play calm music at low volumes, and this constant low-volume noise can be very distracting. I might be spoiled by the near-perfect quietness of my headphones, but my main loudspeakers (same price range as the monitors) are definitely quieter, even at the same close distance. The noise was quite apparent the moment I turned on the monitors and were quite a shock. I expected better quality at this price. Both monitors emit the same background noise, even when no input is connected, so it is definitely caused by the monitors, and is probably not an anomaly (since both behave the same).

Since these are my first monitors I don't know what to expect. Are (active) monitors more noisy than regular loud speakers? Is this something I just have to accept if I want to use monitors? Or is this a sign of low quality or a production defect? Do (even) more expensive monitors also emit noise?

My BM5a MKII's are not dead silent, but the white-ish noise I hear is nothing distracting or realistically noticeable. Did you contact the dealer/Dynaudio?

I have not contacted the dealer yet, just asking around what is normal. On my main speakers I have to move my head really close to notice any noise (ca. 0,5 meters or 1,6 feet). On the monitors I can constantly hear the noise from my seated distance (ca. 1,5 meters or 5 feet), even when playing quiet music. It's sufficiently annoying that I could end up returning them if this is the expected behaviour.

Hello,
Have you tried it without any audio connection? I had the same problem in my earlier setup, and it solved by a soundcard with balanced output.
Otherwise, have you heard any other studio monitor like Genelec or Adam? I am very satisfied with Genelec 8040B except the low-end, which is a bit weak for me. Adam A77X is better, but a shop assistant said that this LYD 48 can be a good choice for me, if it will be available.

The noise is the same both with and without any audio connection. So the noise comes from the monitors, not the source.

I have not heard these other two monitors, but I did consider them (same price range). However, I want a 3-way system with a dedicated mid-range woofer for better clarity and imaging. After hearing the Lyd 48 I definitely don't want to go back to 2-way again. The low-end is powerful and precise, and more than sufficient for anything except the most extreme cellar bass electronica. I also tried the (linear) bass extension, but it was way overkill for my room. My walls were vibrating. The near-wall setting is also great, since both my monitors are tightly packed into the corners of my room.

Great to hear the speakers perform so well!

About the noise. Maybe try a wall socket in another room (where the socket is behind another circuit breaker), and/or take the speakers to a friend's place and try there. Might be related to electrical power's "quality". Different devices react to this in different ways - some amplifier produce noise, some don't.

Do you have a chance to visit a dealer and hear another pair there? Maybe even compare to your set?

We got stock of the LYD48 and showed it at a recent trade show in India. Without adding much hyperbole, the feedback from the show floor was nothing short of outstanding. Having heard them in a studio environment as well, I would very strongly recommend a listen to these before making a purchase of any studio monitors in this price range. My personal opinion is that Dynaudio have made something very special with them, they are a joy to work on.

We've been using them for over a week in different environments and haven't had any background noise from them. Maybe a noisy power source? Or try contacting your dealer to try another pair and see.

Hi kimsnarf, thank you for your answer.
Hi Reesnat, could you compare them with other monitors in thiat price range?

At the risk of sounding biased, I think they offer a great deal more sound and 'class' for your money than typical 2-way premium monitors from the other big brands that are available.

As for the affordable 3way segment such as offerings from Adam and Focal, I think these have a much deeper, yet clearer and defined low end and a great mid detail that the LYD are known for. I know some people that thought that the older BM series lacked a bit of detail in the mid-high end (to some this was called warmer sound and an advantage), but these 48's leave no such impression.

I heard these in a store today, not ideal room, they also had PSI A17-Ms which I use in the studio so I switched between them. I also listened to some ATCs. I actually didn't like the ATCs that much, I think they had too much top end and bass was more loose like a subwoofer in this room. They were good of course but I wouldn't want to work on them myself, didn't gel with their voicing/presentation.

I liked the LYD48s, the bass extended low and was fast and not boomy or hyped at all. Better than I thought being ported and sort of cheap price point. The mids were open and good, spacious and yes way more open than my PSIs which seemed more punchy sharp. The top end was really different, maybe a bit too smooth or lysh to me compared to the PSIs, I'd have to relearn what harsh top end would be. But I felt they were right but different presentation. Not laserbeam and edgy like Barefoots. They was kind of "dry" in their presentation, which I like, not too much of anything, not trying to be "impressive". I might try these at home as the price point is great. At least they give a fuller different picture than the PSIs. The PSIs are fast, mid forward but don't reach low and don't seem open, don't sound too "nice" but have their own serious strengths, which is not filling my current room with lows.

Also looking at Barefoot Footprint 01 which was way more edgy screaming "this is horrible" and everything has to be extremely well done to sound good on, then it of course sound great. And big solid but tight low end. I had a feeling the Footprints were maybe a bit better locked in phase but again would have to hear these wothout other speaker baffles around them and in a better environment and it might just be their very forward presentation.

If I'd get these I could actually keep my PSIs if I need to, but if I go up to Barefoots or more expensive I'd sell them. I also want to hear the new HEDD threeways but I'm unsure I'd like ribbon tweeter (I know these are newer better ribbons, but they always say that). These have a more laid back presentation than Amphion One15 which is really mid forward and sharp transient edges. That's it for now, I'll get back if I demo them at my room.

Thanks for the feedback...I'm very interested in these guys so please keep us informed on how well they work in your space!

I might actually get these and add a pair of Amphion One12s if I find it necessary. One open "soft" pair that play deep and a little louder and one very mid focused pair for mix with only one crossover. Will try to get the 48s in here tomorrow.

I don't want o spend a fortune on speakers before I get a more final room, I might be looking at a whole different size and price range if I move permanent, and I find I often take a huge loss with resale on used speakers, and it might be hard to sell in our little country. I have a good memory of them and they helped me understand what my PSIs sound like and what they don't sound like.

Trying these out in the studio until monday.

They might be even better placed a little higher.

As you se in the measurement they go down to about 30Hz where the PSI A17 roll off before (this is at default 0 bass setting). Need to warm up the amps more as I have experienced D amps to sound harsh when cold. These should be broken in as it's the demo pair I tried at the store and if not untill I'm giving them back. I'm about 130/140 away from them at the closest, I might get a tad more with less toe in. My setup is also a little wide.

On a reference track i know wery well I thought the tweeters sounded odd and out of phase, like too wide as the hi hat seemed very different from left to right speaker. To see if it was the speakers or the recording I checked in mono and it was the recording. I have not noticed this on my PSIs. The center image is tight and stereo image is wide.

That's it for now, just first impressions. Which are good.

After listening to them in my place today I think I'm buying a white pair tomorrow and sell my PSIs.

First I did some sweeps plus a Sonarworks Ref.3 file, which does 5dB max correction and is mostly the same old adjustments in the sub 300Hz area, but they integrated a tad better than my PSIs, and I think I can get even better by placement.

Your room should be tight and treated down to 30Hz if you plan on using these full range, or you need to high pass them. They trigger my 29Hz fundamental room mode. My room is pretty much controlled down to about 40Hz, from 29Hz and up to 40/50 the room is slower and a little more boomy, not much but I notice it a little more with these, I might have to get even more treatment or look to PSI Audio AVAAs for that last tightness, but it works great now too.

The LYD 48s are the real deal, unhyped, detailed, easy on the ears (extremely important to me, I'm super sensitive and tjerefore like soft domes best) but very revealing, distortions are very easily spotted. Sometimes it sounds like your usual port noise on kicks but it's distortion from say tape or compression or whatever, play a clean track and they are super clean. They filled my room with loads of bass when I accidentally had the HD600 headphone correction which has a hughe boost in the low lows.

For the price they are great, my two way PSIs actually cost way more new atm. They are also great but not for my room. The top end showed a peak at around 15.000 Hz but they extend to 20kHz. Will measure more when I play with placement.

On great sounding material they sound really great. They sound like the material in that soft is soft, hard is hard, punchy is punchy, spacious is spacious, boomy is boomy, jazz is jazz, hip hop is hip hop, tight is tight. I listened to mostly good material and wondered if they were kind of always sounding shades of great while revealing, but started to play outside my good references and they clearly expos bad mixes as bad. But not in a Barefoot manner. The bass area too is defined and quite clear, yes they are ported but they are not slow and boomy and one note resonance, it's my room that is a tad boomy in the very lows as mentioned. If I play a mix with controlled low end and they don't sound boomy, just big and full. I can hear more precicely how the kick sounds like, before most kicks and basses sounded more or less the same. Some songs I thought had stronger bass but were actually more shy. Some kicks I thought were fuller than they are. Stereo information in the low end also revealed. But again not Barefoot lows.

Stereo image is great, mono center is very solid, out of phase stereo is really clearly out of phase. They have more depth than my PSIs, but I have always thought the PSIs don't have much depth.

Oh and I played my Moog Model D reissue and DSI Sequential Prophet 6 through them and it was a great experience, so I think I'll enjoy production, which I couldn't say for smaller Amphions. I heard more of the nuances in details and tone, what I was tweaking, and the bottom of course was there.

These are only notes from constantly listening for maybe 4 hours tops. Will listen more tonight with fresh ears but I felt good about them. I was scared of getting new monitors but the transition won't be too hard I think, I also heard more information about the mixes I did this week compared to my PSIs so it should be easier.

I think i won't spend more for monitors at this moment as these seem to be a great tool. I'll save for that super astronomic pair if I get a new room or crazy income.

So, a short initial review from me, but please consider it was only some hours and monitors are personal. I can get back after I have worked on them more, I must notice some shortcomings as well, there must be some. So I'll wait and perhaps add auratones or something when I find their weakness.

Bought the last pair at the store, raised them 10cm higher so acoustic center between mid and tweeter is ear level, now running them in. Feel good about the purchase! I think they work good at lower levels too.

Don't think I have ever had this good integration/flat a room response, and new placement look tighter on the waterfall plot as well.

Left/Right on axis measurements. The dip at 650kHz moved down from about 1kHz after replacement so it's interactive with the mixing board or something. And this is single spot measurement, might be different in a different spot or higher or lower.

Damn. I really wanna hear these things!

Just wanted to say thanks, Deckdaddy, for the detailed thoughts on these.

No problem. Mixing a full mix on these now, works great! Also in another thread:
https://gearspace.com/board/12700274-post16.html

Very interesting to read your impressions Deckdaddy. I also own PSI A17M monitors and I'm interested in trying this new too.
Mostly out of curiosity, because I personally love the PSIs (which I don't plan to sell). Your posts only make that curiosity stronger.
I wonder how well the Dynaudios perform in the low bass region, stereo imaging and how fast they are. Before my PSI speakers I had the Neumann KH310, which had really nice lowend but always felt a bit too sterile for my taste.

I've owned numerous Dynaudio speakers in the past, pro monitors and hifi. They never disappoint within their price ranges.