do you use the Superior Drummer 3 plugins?

daniel1990 🎙️ · 5 days ago

Do you use the Superior Drummer 3 internal compressor and EQ plugins, or do you feel they are not good enough, compared to other software?

Lenzo · 5 days ago

They work fine. I still like to route out my individual drums to aux channels and sometimes use other plugs on those. But internally, the SD3 internal plugs will get you where you want to go.

daniel1990 🎙️ · 5 days ago

Are the internal plugins made by Toontrack or by some other software company? Licensed from an established plugins company perhaps?

Herzton · 5 days ago

I vaguely remember reading that they licensed some stuff, but maybe that was for their EZmix plugin.
Is that important?
I rarely ever use included effects in any drum softward and always route them to dedicated outputs, but that is mostly because of workflow, not sound.

norbury brook · 5 days ago

they're perfectly fine, but I prefer to take the dry drum signals diretly out and process myself.

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Dave Polich · 5 days ago

Sometimes I use the included SD3 effects. Other times no. As far as effects "sound quality"..excellent, in my opinion.

xabilon · 5 days ago

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Originally Posted by daniel1990 ➡️

Are the internal plugins made by Toontrack or by some other software company? Licensed from an established plugins company perhaps?

Superior Drummer effects are made by Overloud, so very good quality.

daniel1990 🎙️ · 5 days ago

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Originally Posted by xabilon ➡️

Superior Drummer effects are made by Overloud, so very good quality.

Interesting! Thank you for the information, I was wondering who made the tape plugin https://www.overloud.com/gems

Musica Ipsum · 4 days ago

All my production templates route the drums direct out. Once the part is finished and balanced internally against each other, and bleed is set where I like it, I render as audio before mixing and then mix like it was a tracked drum kit.

daniel1990 🎙️ · 4 days ago

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Originally Posted by Musica Ipsum ➡️

All my production templates route the drums direct out. Once the part is finished and balanced internally against each other, and bleed is set where I like it, I render as audio before mixing and then mix like it was a tracked drum kit.

So you don't use even the internal EQ?

Musica Ipsum · 3 days ago

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Originally Posted by daniel1990 ➡️

So you don't use even the internal EQ?

I don't use anything internal to SD3.

Like I said, everything is output to it's own channel. Bleed is set; relative levels are set so that it sounds like one cohesive drum kit recorded in a room; and once the "performance" is locked, rendered, then I mix.

norbury brook · 3 days ago

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musica Ipsum ➡️

All my production templates route the drums direct out. Once the part is finished and balanced internally against each other, and bleed is set where I like it, I render as audio before mixing and then mix like it was a tracked drum kit.

that's exactly as I work. I wan't it to be as close to a eal drum session as possible. I also love BFD drums for this reason, I find them very unprocessed generally and route directly out to separate tracks like a real drum session

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user id · 1 day ago

I used to. Now I program everything inside SD3 then export everything with no effects to audio. Then I drag every channel I want back in as separate audio tracks and mix from there.

Dave Polich · 1 day ago

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Originally Posted by user id ➡️

I used to. Now I program everything inside SD3 then export everything with no effects to audio. Then I drag every channel I want back in as separate audio tracks and mix from there.

Bro, so old school.

But correct.

I do it exacly the same way.

A project came to me for mixing, it was in Pro Tools. The guy told me he had Superior Drummer. But he didn't, he actually had EZ Drummer..the first version. And he didn't print the drums as audio. So when I opened the project, I got the "the following plugin is missing..EZ Drummer". And there were no drums to be heard.

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