Really? When I was on Intel I used the driver from 2004 AFAIK, installed manually. Some smaller issues, but could use it. I can run the Manager app on Apple Silicon, but I'd have to port the driver in order to be able to do something. I got the source code for Linux, that someone made, but I haven't found the time to port that, or use as a base for a new driver. Probably easier to just get something else, even if it would have been fun.

Cool, yeah, sorry, I don't mean to confuse the two products (Alpha Track and Faderport OG) (I was talking about the OG Faderport, not the Alpha Track in regards to drivers available for apple silicon or whatnot, but I realized you were on a different path on your comments on that, and my confusion, so realized I was probably bothering the wrong person )...

Yeah, the OG Faderport worked great on my 5,1's and intel machines, and I haven't tried it on my new m series Mac etc... or newer macOS's... and so wasn't sure if you or anyone else in this thread knew the state of that as their website shows a different product and I admittedly didn't dig deep, so that's on me...)..

But yeah, if you are talking in regards to the Alpha Track and having a linux driver etc and dealing with porting that over... I'm with you brother... (at the very least I know I'd rather spend a $100 elsewhere if I needed it rather then the time porting, but then again, sometimes stubbornness gets in the way of that and will try... but I'm stupid like that..)


Generally, given the original question on this thread, or point of it... I've just learned, or rather, due to lifestyle and current nomad nature... f' it.... I just deal with what I got... and honestly I'm fine pretty much with regular interface outside of the fact I really like and travel with one of my 2003 or whatever Kensington trackball pro's or whatever, as they just are fast and accurate for audio work for me...

nice setup! I think that would be an ideal setup for me, can't deny that I am a bit jealous my friend, I would only get the SSL controllers if I update my entire system to be honest which is obviously a huge investment but it's getting to the point where I need to do it either this year or next year because of using an old system, hardly anything supports windows 7 anymore, it sucks.

Alphatrack owner here, can someone confirm whether it can 'fully' use its function on apple silicon..? on Cubase with its unique channel strip EQ-ing etc functions...? or just simple primal moving fader...? cheers.

I bought myself 3rd party latest driver on the internet but was out of luck to fully use its functions. Just.. very basic HUI(?) type functions on my Cubase (intel mac then, apple silicon mac studio now).. I have it but wonder... if someone can rejuvenate lol...

Not with the original drivers…

Where did you buy that? What is it? New drivers are the only chance to be able to use the Alphatrack on Apple Silicon.

I think I bought it from here:
https://www.synclavier.com/AlphaTrackPlugin.html

But for me, on my Mojave osx on intel mac, it worked, but it could not do what it supposed to do on Cubase (such as, Cubase channel strip, EQing like cc121, dynamic control etc)

Just very basic functions.. so I am no longer using it.

So yeah this driver was made ages ago by someone..? No legit driver update for later osx unfortunately, as far as I recall.. so I was surprised by reading posts here.

It is a Sad state of DAW controllers in 2023

Same for Shrubbers:

so I got a new alphatrack and it works better than the last one, also seems much quieter, very happy for how little I paid for it, hopefully it should last a few years and by that time I'll have a new setup with a mac and SSL controller.

I saw yesterday they were from 2010 actually.

I guess it is totally worth it for Pro Tools users But no-no for Cubase users.. :( Good to hear

I use cubase, it works perfectly with it, using cubase 8 pro.

I see, are you on windows?
what would be your OSX/driver..?

Do you mean, all the function keys on Cubase..? I am on my Ventura osx and other, intel Mojave osx, I could not get it working perfectly

Ah.. sorry sorry, it may work perfectly on Cubase 8 pro.

still on windows 7 here, it does work well with that and cubase pro 8, although it does sometimes crash cubase so it's not perfect, you just have to re-launch cubase and it goes away, tried to get the bottom of it and could not work it out, but I can live with that, apart from that it's okay, I do miss having a mac a lot, never had the same issues with one.

You miss having a Mac but stay on windows 7?

What's the thought process on this one?

(I'm genuinely curious.)

I have a studio friend who is still sticking it out with Windows 7 despite having a Mac that he picked up somewhere along the way, but never got going using it for music.

But the thing is, he's highly productive, churning out finished albums on a monthly basis.

So the answer is, better the tools and workflow that you know and are good at. Once you have a setup that is working, why f**k with it?

Many of us (yours truly included) get enticed by the pie in the sky of new hard and/or software.

But it's best not to confuse that with being productive.

I can't really afford to go back to mac's right now, it's more of a financial thing, money is tight, I'd want a very powerful mac studio with the M2 chip and then on top of that you'd need the latest versions of software so it's all compatible, I'd need a new screen/monitor, a new keyboard, and new hardware controllers. I did think about getting one on finance but it's no longer interest free, there's also the issue of old plug ins possibly not working on the new machine, and transferring all the licences.

Yup, agreed. I like to stay up to date on software, and I am aware that sometimes it means a big headache - even though nowadays this is much less of a problem.
But in some areas it does mean being more productive, dialogue editing being a major one of them. There are some serious tools available nowadays that didn't exist a couple of years ago.

Anyways, I asked because they said themselves they missed another system because their is not working 100% for them, and Windows 7 os pretty old already, I'd say that unless it is reeeeeally working out for someone it is time for an update.

Oh I get it!

Hope you can achieve it soon. Good Luck!

Just wanted to chime in and say man I’m so happy this thread exists for the community. On my end this helped me finally say yes and get myself an avid c24 several months back and man am I glad I did. For the same price as an SSL UF1 I found a used college avid c24 and with v-control it’s a joy to mix with. Definitely had to add dedicated pcie Ethernet ports but was well worth it.
Thanks again and keep up the conversations and I hope any windows users looking for a big controller know the waters safe (I’m a reaper user as well)

I think DAW controllers are not very useful. I once tried to cram gear into my studio because it looked "pro". I had a Mackie Control Universal with extenders that basically didn't fit on my main desk because the typing keyboard, the mouse and the MIDI keyboard were more important, so I had no choice but to relegate the DAW controllers to a side desk like yours. The controllers became so inconvenient to reach that I was almost forcing myself to using them to justify the purchase, and even then they got less and less use. In the end I decided it to sell it all and it felt right.

I have always stayed in the midi domain for my composing. I come from the Vangelis school of playing. All real time.. mixing with my feet.. and a 4 way (4cc) breath/bite/tilt/nod controller from teccontrol.se - Recently i have also ditched all the monitors as well. No place to put them and straining my neck was annoying! - For my 3d and VR work I have both the Apple Vision Pro headset and a quest 3. SO now i have a giant monitor hovering above my work area and in pass-through mode i can still see the keyboard controllers and pedal board. Best of all worlds! …and way less neck pain!

DAW controllers can be not only very useful but essential.

It depends on what you do and how you do it. If you are a composer and most of your work is composing and entering and editing midi data then I can see how an MCU is more in the way than of use. But if you are a mix engineer or post production engineer in general (sound-to-picture) it is almost essential in a lot of cases.

Limiting the focus to (1) those who use Cubendo, (2) those who want faders, knobs optional, (3) refuse to use hui/mcu (4) don't plan to buy avid or icon.......

I'm watching to see how the Softube mk3 begins to be/not be accepted.

One of my first stops to check out at Namm if Softube is there.

I understand your position, but the avid artist mix units on the photo are not in use anymore, I am only using the SSL trio + synth controllers on the pic

Also you need a deep desk to have your display + controllers + KB/Mouse and keyboardcontroller. But I achieved just that with a few tables 200x100 cm each, bought at 399 euro each at some office-supplier Got 5 of them in total heh.
Another part of the room is another PS5 + 43"display setup with 2 of those desks/tables

midi 2.0 implemented on Mac OS Sequoia.... But no news from gear manufacturers. Who would bug us to death 10 years ago with their innovations every three months.

Native Instruments Maschine 3 user here. Love it to death!

Gels flawlessly with the Maschine 2 DAW, as you might expect.

Looking forward to the recently announced update to Maschine 3 software
Been a long time coming.

has anyone used the CMC controllers for cubase by steinberg? with cubase 13 on mac OS monterey? I think the AI one could be really useful and save a lot of time, I do wonder why steinberg stopped making them and especially the CC121, it looks bullet proof, nobody wants to sell them it seems so they must be really good.

Does anyone know if QMap for Behringer X-Touch in works in Studio One 7?

I haven't yet upgraded to Studio One 7. When Studio One 6 first came out it "broke" a lot of QMap's functionality, and the dev had to update it. But I don't know if he's still active with QMap.

So before I upgrade to Studio One 7, it'd be good to know if QMap for Behringer X-Touch works in Studio One 7.

AFAIK QMap is completely dead. The website has been offline for quite some time now.

The guy who made it is incredibly talented. He proved that it's not MCU protocol which is clunky/outdated, it's poor/lazy programming.

In any case, I've moved on to Console 1 and will be selling my 1st gen MCU.