Thanks T-Verse and Derp Yes the PEG is snappy enough, but I want an ADSR not just an AD, so I can go from stabs to longer sustained notes. maybe the 281 will do it. Not sure yet. That attenumix looks good. Passive though...

My assistant is on her way to show you the ropes

Wow Cane. Working the tools and now an assistant . Yeah, I'll take two too.

Trying out the Scooper as a MIDI Oscillator and the Erica MIDI-Trigger. Delicious not-so-random drum loops! Swapped filters a couple times on the Scooper.

Mad Yules:
Mutable Peaks
Make Noise Mysteron
4MS Pingable Envelope Generator
Mutable Grids
Mutable Branches
Music Thing Radio Music
EMW Analog Drum Synth
Blue Lantern Mini Shimmery
Roland Scooper
MFB Kraftzwerg
Analogue Solutions Adaptor
Mutable Elements
Analogue Solutions VCO-Sub
Pittsburgh Synthesizer Box
Doepfer A-135-1
Mengqi DPLPG
Manhattan Analog CP3
Blue Lantern BMX
Bastl Grandpa
Bastl SPA
Doepfer A-143-3
Qu-Bit EON
Doepfer A-124 Wasp Filter
Doepfer A-103 18db Low Pass Filter
Doepfer A-105 SSM 24db Filter
EMW Wave Compressor
Zlob THEQ
Synthrotek Eko
Flame FX-16
Audio Damage Aeverb

This just came in the late late last post on a Friday evening before I go to work, not very sexy but hugely useful, a lamp and multiple for $82 not bad imo..

not sure if you tried them or not, but if you're coming from vintage synth background, you will love the fcuk x-env. they are fantastic as classic snappy ADSR. they get that rolandish twannng. unless you need cv control this is the one.

i use a pair for classic ADSR duties, where i want to play sustained notes, or for some sequences where i want the shape and response of a vintage mono.

maths is for snappy in a different way - its shape is almost "acoustic" sounding. perfect for drums & perc, or emulating a stringed/picked instrument. just by routing one of its channels to a expo fm input of a tricore like 258J, a devastating kick drum appears. cv control of both attack and release. with some self patching its possible to skew slopes beyond the ones offered by the lin/log/exp pot. including an external vca in this, you can even have cv over slope shape as well. tho i never needed that.

toppo 281 is 2ch AR, not ADSR. compared to maths, its a function gen only, whereas latter is also a dual universal slew generators. it has inputs for slew processing. also, maths attenuverters are DC sources/offsets, which came useful many times.

Or the Roland 500 ADSR.

Derp that passage between 4:20 and 5:20min was seriously dope...

Good hearing you "Bearing the fruits of your labor", enjoyed the listen.

Got no pots to use in Elements build and I'm broke, it requires 17 x B10K pots. This morning i remembered when i built Orbitals i chose to use my own round shaft Alphas so i could use Davies knobs rather than the D shaft type that came with the kit, So i routed about the drawers in my studio and tucked in the back was a bag of 18 x D shaft Alpha pots to which i couldn't believe my luck when i noticed they were B10K The Gods are in my favour for once

After careful review, I decided to buy a Circuit Abbey Tick from Synthcube as my next DIY attempt. Not something I can see myself particularly needing since I've got so many clock sources, but it's 3hp (gotta offset again because of the Demora), has a low part count, has decent directions, and I think will fit my needs concerning soldering weak points. I think my caps and resistors are fine, what worries me are jacks, power connectors, IC sockets, and the like. I think that's where I've been screwing up. This has a minimal number of those, but at least it has some, so if I screw it up, it shouldn't be hard to troubleshoot it.

Get a flux pen and on power connector for example put plenty of flux over the whole PCB area, then how I do it is I roughly solder one power pin, then put the PCB in my hand and with the same hand apply pressure pushing the power towards the board with a thumb or finger, whilst with the other hand I use the iron to melt the solder again on that pin and because your apply pressure the power connector will suddenly sit flush with the PCB, then your ok to solder the rest of the pins, I do this with IC sockets to.

I don't use a flux pen for thru-hole only SMD but im advising you to use one as it will help the solder flow to the pads until you get used to things.

Yeah, that was pretty cool when I temporarily lost track of my patch while trying to swap filters on the Scooper. XD

Forgot to mention that the Scooper patch was modified so that it's two saws and a square an octave down. Bottom left knob was set to detune one of the oscillators. I don't think I'm going to stick with this patch though because when the saws aren't detuned, they're pretty phasey. Still trying to work out what my default patch is going to be.

Demora is waiting for me at home. The long USB cable hasn't arrived yet though, so I'll just be playing with it as a delay for the weekend.

I have to say again that I'm really impressed with the Aira modules. It's amazing that Roland set aside so much processing power just to goof off with.

I got my Warps in. Can get meaner sounding then I thought it would be (in a good way). Was playing around with 3 saws on the Torcido plus a Tides with Warps, using the Tidal output to sync the Aira oscillators then feeding both to Warps. I think I'm going to find a lot of tones in an Aira, Tides and Warps. Aira handle the sync great, going to have to try it the other way too (and with sheep).

Going to have to parasite the Tides and Warps, looking forward to that.

Have to say, filters are starting to leave my main case and drift to my 2nd case. Never saw that coming. This thread is a contributing factor...

Heyyyy! That's a good idea there! Thanks, I'm totally getting one of those now!

I was surprised as well. I don't know why I expected such a gentle-sounding module. It sounds wicked awesome on drums as well.



I've been trying to decide what to do with the inputs on Scooper. Sync. Why didn't I think of that? Thank you!

Hmmm... Agreed the Complex Envelope Generator is nice as a variation on the ADSR format. For snappy ADSR's, if you can find one, the Analogue Solutions ADSR's are cheap and pop like a rubberband. Peaks is pretty snappy as well, and you get a whole lot more than just a pair of envelopes in that module.

Bringing Clouds back up again since I'm apparently not the only one having trouble getting the basic engine to be 'exciting': I played the basic loop from that Soundcloud posting into the clouds after I'd recorded and uploaded that. Pitch set to either extreme, heavy reverb, and turning Freeze on goes a long way. Got some very pleasant drones that way. Also, LFO's with multiple phase outputs work great for modulating it and giving it some motion. I kinda wish I'd recorded that to share now. I did turn it into a patch on the Fantom for later use, though.

Gattobus always does good videos

^ what is he playing with his left hand..??

that was awesome btw...

KOMMANDER – CV/Gate Motion Controller – KOMA Elektronik

Love Gattobus's old stuff.
Especially his Blade Runner, Oxygene and One of these days covers.

The Roland System 100 envelope is snappy. The Freq Central System-X env is a good copy of it.
Another vote for the 281 if AD is what you need. Also the Befaco Rampage looks interesting but had no chance to check yet in person.

Another plus is that you can buy them as kits and build them cheeper if you are into DIY.

Not sure if there is any advantage of a 281 over Maths or Function.

How are you liking the Elby Wasp filter?

Love it, absolutely love it, seriously though, at first I thought it was broken, it's bizarre...then I spent some real time with it and found that it is not like any normal filter, it's really weird but so glad i bought it, doing some recordings of it of late that will go up at some point when I get time to edit a video..

Feels like Christmas: the Wave Composition Oscillator, Digital Multiwave Oscillator, and Yarns all arrived today. I'm gonna have to study the manual for Yarns to get this bad boy up and running the way I want it, but so far I'm thinking it's kinda underkill compared to what I'm getting from the other two. I'm kinda lusting for a 4Vox, so I might sell the Yarns on in favor of that, though I probably shouldn't since the MIDI/CV could come in handy.

The Digital Multiwave Oscillator is cool, though. Doesn't even have the basic waveforms in a traditional sense, and the FM waves are pretty rad.

The Wave Composition Oscillator sounds pretty awesome (better than I expected if I'm being truthful) but mine arrived with the MIDI switch not working. I'm about to contact EMW directly and see if he's got any ideas on a way to fix it without having to send it back to Perfect Circuit.

Put this one together last night when I was trying out the Demora:



The USB cable for it is due to arrive on Tuesday and I'm really looking forward to it. The ping pong effect is cool, but it not having any way to sync the tempo by default sucks. From what I've read so far, there's a jury-rigged to do it, but when I tried it, it was kinda only partially there and since it relies on sending a trigger to the delay time, it causes a spike in the pitch. It's still got USB-sync capability though, so that'll be nice. Since it seems to work best so far in a send/return configuration coming from the BMX, I'm thinking I'll probably be sacrificing the dry/wet knob in favor of a tone control.

Stuff:
Dave Smith DSM02
Mutable Streams
Mutable Peaks
MFB OSC-01
EMW Analog Drum Synth
Intellijel Unity Mixer
Delptronics Thunderclap
Barton Analog Drum
Blue Lantern Mini Shimmery
Roland Scooper
MFB Kraftzwerg
Analogue Solutions Adaptor
Mutable Elements
Pittsburgh Synthesizer Box
Malekko VCA
Blue Lantern BMX
Erica Trigger Out
Soundmachines LP1
Roland Demora
Doepfer A-143-3 Quad LFO
Evaton RF Nomad
Bubblesound SEM20
Doepfer A-103 18db Low Pass Filter
Audio Damage Aeverb

More than interested...this is one of my favorite things to do with my rig. Your video inspired me to make my own since I make "songs" (used loosely here) like this almost every day, just needed a few hours to myself to make it happen-

I'm gonna try to make some more, with higher quality video, not sure what happened on this one but oh well. If I waited for everything to be perfect I'd be dead without doing anything.

Aha, so this is YOUR fault! (Had to really dig to find this post.) I knew it was somebody in this thread that put the 4Vox in my head. I'm loving Yarns, Wave Composition, and Multiwave so much that I went ahead and pulled the trigger on a cheap(ish) 4Vox on Muff. Thanks for turning me on to this thing.

You Erica fans scope out the Pico series that just got dropped on ModularGrid? 3hp each (I guess I'm getting used to odd-size modules now that we're seeing more of them) and the Drum, Trigger, and Sequencer modules in particular look fun.