Hi,
I have a soundcraft delta 200 12 channels, a tc finalizer and a metrci halo lio-8.
I monitor my mix with the monitor outpurs of the delta.
I want to send : delta (stereo output) => finalizer (just the limiter) => lio-8 (aes input).
My question is : How can I monitor the finalizer output (the limiter) on the delta ?
If it is possible can I monitor the limited mix and the non limited mix on the delta ?
Thanks

Teddy

Does the Delta have an insert on the mains? If so use it.

Otherwise if you have two open channels you could bring the left and right back from the Metric Halo. Just be sure to only monitor only those two channels as there is a risk of a feedback loop.

I think the Master section of the Delta 200 is identical to the DLX I have, in which case you can achieve what you want by using... the 2-track returns.

You have the analog outputs of the Finalizer to work with since you are only using the AES output to feed the LIO.

In other words:

Control Room/Monitor Level switch Up >> Main Mix
Control Room/Monitor Level switch Down >> 2-Track Finalized Mix

You might need to do some gain-staging on the LIO or perhaps within the Finalzer itself in order to precisely gain-match the unmastered/mastered signal (if that is your aim) as I don't think there's an easy way to adjust the input sensitivity of the 2-Track Return without a desk mod.

Master Inserts will of course work well too and are designed for this sort of application - just bypass the Finalizer to hear raw mix. Will also unbalance the signal though and reduce your SNR. For sure if you plan to do analog master I/O fades on the desk you will absolutely need to use this method.

You could also hand over all monitoring duties to the MIO Console which has the most incredibly sophisticated software monitoring routing options that can handle almost anything.

My mixing, mastering & monitoring chain are all analogue and therefore a bit more convoluted - suffice to say that these EMO Line Splitters are real life-savers. And I do indeed dedicate 2 of my 24 input channels to the cause, as JLast suggests - these two channels have their input trims way down compared to the other 22 channels to cope with mastered material.

Thanks.
Unfortunately, I don't have free channels. I use all the 12 channels.

Thanks.
Yes, I have a 2 track return.
A question, if I plug the output of the finalizer on the 2 track return, will the limited sound bypass the original mix sound ?

It will if you push this button in...

Great. thanks a lot for your explanation.

Delta 200 insert levels are set to -12 dbu, very low and that won't drive outboard well enough to not pick up +12 db of return noise. The Delta 8 and others have insert sends at -6 dbu like most designs.

Yes, this can be corrected.

Close enough for rock and roll though.