Hello!

I tested the m3000 and it's an excellent reverb with two engines.
Especially some programs that have a true stereo. First engine to the left channel, the second to the right.
Reverb 4000 is even better or uses the base of stereo programs m3000?

Thank you!

TC Electronic M3000 vs Reverb 4000

4000 brings the VSS4 algos which are contained in the 6000. Lot's of threads here on the forum around this. It is closer to the 6000 overall. I think the 4000 is more useful for audio production due to the reverbs. I have the 3000 and use it for room simulations and drums. Overall the TCs are brighter than your average reverb box i.e. lexicon, bricasti etc. You have to adjust their EQ curve a bit. Either one is extremely useful, if I didn't already have a Lexicon 300, I would pick up a 4000.

4000 is high-end reverb, still absolutely usable for many applications.
M3000 is very good, but grainier and less polished.

The Reverb 4000 is really the one you want. The VSS4 algos sound amazing. It kind of takes a bit from the 6000, 5000 and 3000... plus you get a nifty Icon style control application to fiddle with the settings from your DAW computer.

Reverb 4000 is there a 6000 model but only with one engine? What does it mean? Are algorithms lower in quality or can you use only 1 effect - a reverb?

The M3000 runs the VSS3 algo... its ok, but nothing great. You can buy it as a plugin now from TC for $199 and run as many instances as you like.

The Reverb 4000 and the 6000 both have the VSS4 algo. Both are great sounding units... but you only need the 6000 if you are going to run multiple channels or multiple instances. The Reverb 4000 is just a stereo reverb device (or 2x mono if you use a VSS4 TS algorithm).

Depends what you want. Personally, I'd go with a 4000 or 6000 as minimum... any thing less, and I'd just use some plugins instead.

Thank you. I have the opportunity to buy a new Lexicon pcm92, TC reverb 4000 or used pcm96. What to choose from 3 devices?!?

Do you like more realistic sounds or more "effect-y" reverb? The TC will probably sound more like real spaces and the Lexi stuff more obvious and effecy-y.

The user interface on the PCM 92 is pretty awful, I had an 81 and it was pain in the ass to alter things.

As others have said, the Reverb 4000 is a significantly better sounding option than the M3000, and would be a better choice.

I have a Reverb 4000 and also a PCM96 here. They are both useful, but they have quite a different sound. The Lexicon high end units have a recognisable warm, lush (and sometimes syrupy) sound that combines with (and seemingly alters) the character of the material somewhat. Sometimes that's what you want, others not so much, depending on the material and your approach.

By contrast, the Reverb 4000 doesn't have so much 'noticeable' and 'recognisable' character (meaning its character is less intrusive) but given an airy extension and subtle depth to content. Apologies for the inevitable inadequacies of these descriptions...

And of course, each of the units offers up a fair few options - some more 'in character' for the unit than others, so generalising about their sound is of somewhat limited value - you really need to audition them to get a feel for how well they will work for you.

How's the User INterface of the Reverb 4000? I love the simplicity of the M3000 (and sound) but I'm always intrigued by the newer, more advanced 4000.

I find the user interface somewhat similar between various TC units (presently have FireworX, Reverb 4000 and G-Force here). They're useable in a linear-thinking mode, with a lot of options, yet reasonably well organised.

I wouldn't call any of them elegant, but they get the job done. It's been a while since I used the M3000, but IIRC it had fewer options and less depth in the interface than the Reverb 4000 (but I also did less editing with it, so maybe there is more there than I can recall).

Where does the reverb 4000 have a mix of dry and wet sound?

It does not work with Windows 10. The USB driver has not been updated since 2010 and TC Electronic does not seem to have the slightest interest in updating it.

A detailed analysis can be found here: TC Electronic Reverb 4000 not recognized by Windows 10

The Reverb 4000 defaults to its "Kill Dry" setting to give you wet (processed) output only, but you can disable Kill Dry in the I/O settings menu (press the I/O button, scroll down to screen 2/8 and Kill Dry is the first setting).

Once you've set Kill Dry to "Off", you can set the wet and dry mix by using the left parameter pagination arrows to page down to the Levels settings (approx. page 11 - about ten presses of the down arrow, depending which patch is selected...) then use the F3 knob to adjust the dry level (F2 adjusts the reverb level and F1 adjusts early reflections level, FWIW).

Thank you DarkSky Media, had to spend 15-20 minutes to sort out and get out of this trap))
Reverb 4000 sounds just amazing! Of all the reverbs that I had (mpx1, pcm70, pcm96, M5000,M3000), this is the best! Especially the algorithms Rich Hall and Large Hall.

No problem. Glad you got it sorted!

I usually just leave ours with KillDry enabled and pass it an effects send feed, but it's always good to have an option to process inline if you need to.

Agreed. Along with just a handful of others, it's one of the hardware digital reverbs that are still worth dedicating rack space to IMO.

I have a m3000 that I love....can't imagine recording or mixing without it. After reading this thread I kinda want the 4000.

FUD are powerful marketing tools.

FUD?

The TC 4000 is one of my favorite reverbs especially its price compares to some other hardware units

Right there with you. I love my M3000 to death, but I'd really like to ry the Reverb 4000.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_...inty_and_doubt

Yep, that's what it means. I suspect the question was more how it is applicable to the discussion in this thread...

It seems a bit of a stretch to suggest that anyone is marketing anything here, and even more so to say that fear, uncertainty or doubt are being wielded to manipulate the unwary.

FOMO is probably a more accurate description. The fear of missing out.

The OP has one box and then "after reading this thread" suspects he needs another. U and D are plainly evident, maybe not F. This whole website would probably not exist if not for FUD in audio.

M3000 is a fine reverb for most applications.
https://youtu.be/i2QKJavKq9c

Thanks for clarifying.

However it was not the OP you were quoting. The OP was already considering acquiring the 4000 (that was apparently the impetus for the thread) and appears to have done so a few posts in (per posts 12 and 15).

The U and D you were observing (if that's what they were) was coming from Farm sounds and were later echoed by Drumsound - both 'third party' participants. I took them as curiosity and aspiration (both of which are positive) ... so C & A rather than U & D, maybe...

Have 2 3000s and 1 4000. 4000 is a better hi end reverb but there is something about the 3000s I still love. Use all 3 on every mix. Haven't tried the 4000 on vocs yet. The Bricasti gets those duties which I think is still superior for chambers and plates.

I would say that M4000 and PCM92 cover pretty much all bases.

I had two M3000's at one point. I love those boxes. And each one is actually two completely independent processors.

I plan on getting another one again, they currently sell for like 5 or 6 hundred bucks, a steal!