Mos def the Dynaudio, the Adam are quite nice but it seems that the dynaudio are superior. After testing mixes on regular speakers the dynaudio mix always translated better...with that being said ive only tested Techno,minimal and deep house.

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I have the BM6A MKII's. I love it and it has been my best investment ever. Helped me a lot improve on my mixing. Especially on the low frequencies. Didn't need a sub to get the bass right. I don't know how it compares to the MKI's so I couldn't comment on it. Whether it sounds better than the other really depends on a lot of things, no? Like your room maybe? I did some treatments to my room and so far I have had great results.

That's good enough for me... I'm going to go check out the Dynaudio BM5a Mkii today. These Adam A7x are hard for me to get a good solid mix on. They sound too good on everything. Plus I want tighter bass. I've seen threads on here where people mention that Dyn's are not as forward as the Adam's, plus the bass is tighter. I think that's what I'm looking for.

Whatever you do, listen to a good few speakers to get a picture of what is out there and how it hangs with your ideals. Then try and get the favourites home for demo in situ. Or buy on guesswork and be frustrated for ages.

Yes, will do.

I have the Dynaudio Mk2s also, and I love them.

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Yeah, I went to hear them today. I'm going to go ahead and get them. Dynaudio had more bottom end, but my A7x's had more high end. With the Dynaudio's, I prefer to mix on that darker toned monitor. I think it's easy to adapt to a monitor with less high end, and more bottom end, rather than a monitor with more high end, and less bottom end. I have for sale on eBay now.

Listen for yourself. Noone has the same set of ears as you do.
And no matter what monitors you choose, will 50% love it and 50% hate it.
Theres no reason to ask about other peropls oppinions concerning the sound of monitors.

I guess there's no point in being on Gearslutz either, right? It's funny hearing that from a guy like you who started a thread a few months back asking, "Is better to mix with a limiter on the mix bus", or "best supersaw ever"....

Of course, but not talking about which monitor sound better. That is too subjective too talk about.

Not what you want to hear but.... to my understanding the Adam's should not be holding you back from getting translatable mixes. So there may be something else wrong?

So it may be worth seeing if you can improve your acoustics. What's your control room setup look like? I think we're all assuming that's taken care of, unless I overlooked the post.

If your acoustics are up to snuff, what DA conversion is being used? Could it be a case where the Adam's are being fed misinformation? That's most likely not the case since conversion has gotten so good... but I would think it depends om what unit you're using.

Lastly. Of course every monitor set needs to be learned before your mixes are translated well. You already know that. But most engineers use multiple monitors to get the mix translatable. Granted I wouldn't have expected your Adam mixes not translating right, so maybe ultimately you're right and need a change, but it would be a shame for you to switch and your mixes still require the car test. Maybe look to add a second pair of monitors to reference like some Equators? Or.... keep your Adams, save up, and THEN purchase the dynaudios.

That way, you have both sets to really translate your mix. If the dynaudios take over and you end up not using the Adams, then you give yourself a green light to sell.

And finally. There's lots of people who pump out great mixes in Adams, so maybe it's you? No offense at all.... I don't mean that as a stab obviously. Nobody likes to hear they need improvement... but that could possibly be the case also?



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I know there's always room for improvement, so I don't take offense at all. The truth is this, when I was using my M-Audio BX5 mki, I didn't have this problem. I had been using those monitors for about nine years, I bought them when I was 17 years old. As you observed already that I do know you have to learn your monitors. Just seems hard to learn on these Adams, I had them for about a year and a half now. Still not happy with them on my mixes. Maybe I should pull the M-Audios out the corner and get back on them...shit IDK? They had their flaws too, but I adapted. After hearing the BM5a Mkii, I heard something tat sounded right to me.


We actually had a pair of the Adam A7x and the Dynaudio BM5a Mkii switching back and forth on the same songs. It seemed like with the BM5a, I could picture my mix sounding like what was playing. Kind if like...I heard instruments the way I like to hear them. On the A7x, I couldn't picture myself making a mix sound the way it sounded on the A7x. I didn't hear the instruments like I like to hear them when mixing. Too forward for me, and I don't think I can adjust my ear's automatic settings.

Okay... that makes ABSOLUTE sense!

Your ears are probably just tuned to the MAudio BX5s still. I had a pair myself.. so I know exactly what you mean. They are bass heavy. I switched the Yamaha HS50's, and granted I had an improvement in mixing from going to monitors that are "flatter" and don't hype up the bass.... but if you've already learned how to mix on bassier monitors then yeah... this makes sense now with the addt'l info. It's just personal preference.

I think you should fire away then like it sounds like you're already doing.

Maybe consider a less expensive "flat" monitor option to A/B in the studio if that's the case. HS50's are pretty cheap now... you could probably find a pair for $200 to keep as your second reference, just to keep your Dynaudio mixes honest. Like a physician giving a second opinion lol.


WHen I grabbed my Yams... there was a period of time when I still had the BX5's. It was kind of interesting. Everything I mixed on the Yams sounded great on the BX5's. But everything I mixed on the BX5's did not sound great on the Yams. I always misjudged the bass (too low) and the highs (way too sharp). I had to sell mine for extra money, and b/c it wasn't in my "grand scheme" plans... but, i'll be adding a complimentary pair to the Yams. Definitely recommend multiple monitors if you can swing it.

Did you say your room is untreated? That is your first major problem. Treat your room before getting more monitors. Once its treated then you can make better decisions about your mixes and the monitors you want. Right now you are shooting in the dark. Treat your room now. And dont buy foam. Drop at least 1500 on quality bass traps etc. Or DIY it on the cheap. You'll thank me later.

Second that.

For the price of a good sub you could probably spend some time making DIY traps for about the same price with better results. In fact with a little bit of time, research and materials can get a great bass response with ~$500 of DIY traps and diffusors. IT will take time to research, test, like a few months.

I'd say take a few months getting your head around the direct problem vs. spending years fighting translation issues and money switching out monitors.
A/B to other material as well. Put your hand on the speaker to see how the bass feels from other songs. Its a small little way of checking things if your having issues hearing low end.
Sometimes you can feel if a hi hat or other thing has low end in it. One of a billion different ways to try instead of making an expensive replacement and still having the same problem.

Still working on my KRK V6 (originals) that in three different rooms - one untreated - sounded three different ways. It wasn't until they are in my newest place with the best bass response that I don't even think for a second about needing a sub.

This also may sound kooky, but if you're having general balance issues with simple volume settings from song to song it helps to do a balance against pink noise. There are quite a few resources out there that better explain it than I could here.

Helps solve, 'is the bass too loud compared to everything else, or what about that pad sound, etc'.

Taking a balanced rough sounds better than a fully polished mix with proportional balance issues when you jam in the car/other revealing systems.

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Thanks for that last bit of information.