***Analog Purists.... Please no Hate***

I am a proud owner of a Fender Cybertwin. I freaking love the thing. In the studio, in combination with my pedal board, I dont think theres a sound I cant get within a few minutes of twiddling.

I also love it live because it doesnt HAVE to be loud at all times The volume knob has a nice even sweep. I have a custom Hot Rod Deville 115 which I love, but the volume knob is useless.... from 0-2 is too quiet to use, and 2.5 and up is blaring.... Too loud for some clubs I would play.... Had to use an EQ pedal as an attenuator. Although the motorized knobs may be a liability in the future, I love having presets; keeps my tone consistant from night to night.



Any other CT users out there? Any recommendations? Tips? Thoughts?

I have one and love it. I actually just did a review about it on my blog:

Fender Cyber Twin Review | Teh Official Blog of Amp360 !111!!!1111!

check the fender forums, there are several happy cyber-twin users there that might be helpful.

I feel that the Fender forum members might just be flexing brand loyalty and may be biased in their answers... There might be MORE users there... but I think this is more neutral ground.

biased or not, there's several members over there who have Cyber Twins and one has even written software for it. It's a helpful resource. And since the OP already owns one, he's looking for others who own it as well -- those people are on the Fender Forums.

as for GS being more neutral ground, that's debatable. Certainly the Fender Forum has a lot more factual information from their users there on Fender amps and guitars than here.

Again for the OP, worth checking out and if it helps you, great.

Here is mine:

Hey, if it inspires you to create music, there is no hate.

FWIW, I'd rather use a Fender modeling amp than a Line 6 any day of the week.

I was seriously checking out the Cyber when it came out and really liked it a lot. I ended up going with the 65 reissue at that time. I seem to recall one of my fav Chi town blues players Buddy Guy having and using a Cyber to great effect. I think Fender did a great job on that amp.

Yep Buddy Guy. Also, if you google Crossroads and watch the Steve Winwood parts he plays one and it sounds great.

Jez Williams (Doves) uses Cyber Twins live...

I just love the sheer versatility of the digital, paired with the vintage vibe. It feels like an AMP, not a plugin or a rack unit.... I accept that it very may well be psychological, but whatever makes me play better......

Hi,

another happy user here. Just dont like the sound of the spdif out in particular.

cheers

Never used that.... I just mic it up like a regular amp. I run it in tandem with a custom 1x15 Deville. Good stuff.

On mine I keep the effects/distortion to a minimum and really use it more for clean/slightly overdriven sounds. It's a super cool amp and they're practically giving them away these days.

Exactly! My main tone is the "Vintage Stack" setting, but with my own EQ settings. I have a huge pedalboard, and all my effects are there. I really love the "Dirty Thirty" setting with all the EQs dimed.

Hey -- just wanted to say I love this amp too. My lead guitarist, an avowed analog man, initially turned up his nose to it on a session for my 2nd album. "Too many knobs", he said. But when I got to the preset emulating his favorite amp, he played a few chords and his eyes widened. Then, trying to hide his approval, he said, "Can we do something about that hum? Oh, wait.." Then he hit the "Hum Redux" button, and the hum was gone. Then he just laughed and said, "Well...I gotta hand it to 'em." What I love about the Cybertwin the most is the clean/chorus sound. I mean, for certain things, a JC120 sound -- that is, a clean clean sound with a stereo chorus -- works very well. But the ACTUAL JC120 isn't really a clean amp...every one I've played through is noisy as a creaky old jalopy. But the Cybertwin in "Chorus Jazz" preset is actually what a JC120 SHOULD sound like but NEVER has...clean, clean, clean, with that eyeball-bouncing stereo chorus -- and QUIET!!! In any event, like someone else said, if it inspires you and you like the sound, there's nothing to apologize for. Besides, so many pieces of gear have been dark horses when they came out only to be appreciated much later. My two cents. Peace.

Can anyone compare/contrast the Cyber-Twin to the Mustang line? I have the Mustang IV & quite like it. Ease of use, quality of sound and the ability to operate at moderate levels recommend it. Is the Twin different enough to justify owning both?

IMHO the Cyber Twin is an amplifier that they really designed well. I own a lot of old amplifiers (Fender in particular) and while I didn't sell them when I got the Cyber Twin I still enjoy playing it.

The CT is a very well constructed amplifier and the speakers are worth as much/more then some of them sell for these days (I picked one up with the floorboard for $250 recently). The CT was built to be the top of the Fender heap at the time, and Frontline even had it on the cover of the catalog. It didn't catch on and I'm sure they lost a boatload on them but they were/are great amps.

I also have an old Line 6 AX212 (first gen) and it's a great sounding amp.

The Mustang is kind of a cheap amp built to a price point. I think they sound good for what they are but I would put the CT in a different league all together.

On YouTube you can watch the Cyber Twin DVD. That will give you some insight into how good an amp it is.

My dad works at Fender, and he explained it to me.

The Mustang is an ALL Digitial standard modeling amp.

The Cyber Twin is an AMP, through and through, just with digital switching and optional effects. When you switch settings, it literally changes its signal path inside to BECOME the amp in question, not just an emulation of that amp.

To be fair, Buddy only used them at the time as part of an overall endorsement deal. Always good to judge how the amp works for you vs. what amp a guitarist may or may not play.

I'm not a fan of Buddy Guy's tone or blooze music in general. The Cyber Twin is a really nice amp if you need a lot of tones in one box

Hello all, I just purchased a Cyber Twin SE (second edition). Please no comments on why this amp is not as good as a 1965 Fender tube amp. I'm not in the position to flop down 1500 clams for a 50 year old amp. I bought this amp yesterday for 450. It's literally brand new. The gentleman never took it out of the box. The cheat sheet on top and the plastic wrap on the 4 switch pedal was still secure in the back. It came with the cover, the 4 pos. switch, the single button switch, the manual, even the original receipt. I think I got a good deal. I have a couple questions for you that own one of these. I know I can save my 4 favorite patches and call them up with the 4 pos. footswitch. I do not like the way I have to call up or surf thru the other hundreds of patches and amp models though. The motorized knobs seem to get a lot of un-needed wear and tear as I go through the settings with the data wheel. Is there a way to go to a setting without having to scroll through 30 or 40 before getting to the one I want? Also (and I'm still learning the settings) is there a way to just hear the different amp models with no effects. Just the stripped down sound? The one button footswitch is suppose to bypass the effects and it does on certain patches but it seems to only turn one effect off or on. Any help to any of these issues would be appreciated.
Cheers............

I would get the big board footswitch if you don't want to scroll.

As for the motorized knobs, if for some reason the motor ever fails this will not affect the functionality of the amp. I always thought having a motor defeat function would be cool, but mine is old now and no issues.

Visit Youtube and watch the video on the CT it will answer a lot of your questions and give you a lot more information about the amps.

Thanks for the tip. I know those Cyber Twin Foot Controllers are hard to find and expensive when you do. I haven't tried it yet but I bet the ole ART X-15 Midi controller will do the same thing. I'll give it a shot this weekend.

I would imagine the X-15 would work fine. Look at the CT manual though, it's been a while but I think you need to plug a MIDI footswitch (including big board) into a different spot then the little one.

I have 4 Cybertwins and have used them live since 2003. I use 3 live and control them with ART X-15s. I had a Cyber controller but the X-15 works WAY better as one can program each expression pedal to what ever MIDI control on the amp. Also the ART can control 2 Cybertwin master volumes if need be. I have many vintage and new amps ranging from 2 Mesa Boogie Triaxis preamps, Triple Rectifier, MKIIC+, Marshall Voodoo Platinum modded JMP1, JCM 800, JCM 2000 TSL, Hughes and Kettner TRIAMP combo, tons of Fender amps ranging from 1964 Vibroverb, 1958 Vibrolux, 1954 Princeton, 3 Stage 112SEs, Champs, Showman, Mustang IV, Line 6 AX2, Vetta II HD, PODs and POD Pro, Spider Valve, 5 Johnson Millenniums, Seymour Duncan 60wt, ADA-MP1, ART preamps, Pignose 60, Crate Vintage Club 50, a bunch of Peaveys, Soundcity 120, Vox Berkeley tube and solid state and a bunch more. Point being for the Classic Rock band I play in the Cyber Turds( my name for them) work quite well. Took me 2 years of consistent gigging and practicing to get some very good tones. I installed JBL D120s in one and EVM-12s in another along with the stock Celestion 100s in the other 2. The clean tone with reverb and delay in #1 and Chorus in #2 sounds like Eric Johnsons' clean tone. Many guitarists in my area comment on how good my tones are. That the great thing of the Cyber Twin its not a one trick pony. I think many guitarists believe that if it isn't all tube its junk. That might be the reason the Cyber Twin was discontinued. By the way I prefer the first version over the SE. I traded the SE for a Marshall 2000 TSL combo.

I used the Cybertwin for over 5 years. Great work-horse. But as I am in the Caribbean, I encounter some strange voltages and the CT power supply is very particular about not wanting more than 130 Volts and definitely not operating on 50 Hz. Here, it was hot and miss and I blew up two transformers that way!

So I had to move on to other pastures and I got an Axe FX. Not the same price tag, but also not the same sound.

Eighthnote, I remember a friend of mine was using the Behringer foot switch with his CT. Those are probably easier to get a hold of.

I am thinking of getting a second CT.... Can you control both with one Foot controller?

Buddy commented at the only show I saw him using the Cybertwins that they were not reliable in his application (had 3 onstage and had to switch one out when it died part way thru the set). This was outdoors, moist summer at 90 degrees in Madison, WI, tough for any amp I guess.