API Unveils New 2448 Recording and Mixing Console at AES - Page 2

Wiggy Neve Slut · 20th October 2018

To be fair in a modern age.. and in my experience if something is in small faders it’s a secondary audio source... eg shaker/tambo/ keys or fx which can more than suffice with ITB DAW automation. All the money channels get real faders and associated automation.

Rea · 22nd October 2018

Best thing about New Console releases is that the previous generation(1608) will start popping up used for less expansive than ever...
Im waiting on the sidelines...

Snoggin · 22nd October 2018

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Originally Posted by Singlecutz ➡️

We’re not taking about the same thing. The poster above me was considering trading his 1608 for a 2448 instead of getting a 1608 expander. My point was a 32 channel 1608 May have a better feature set than a 2448, in that you would have fader automation on every channel of the 1608 and also EQ slots on every channel.

If you plan on using the 2448 for inline tracking and monitoring, not having EQs and volume automation on the small fader section may not be a big deal. If you plan on using the 2448 for maximum inputs for mixing (ie all 64), it might be a bigger deal.

Other companies have various ways of addressing g this, including two EQs for larger and small fader, or in the case of some SSLs in this price range, a stereo EQ on each channel.

Don’t forget, automation isn’t just about moving faders. It also gives you instant total recall of all automatable parameters. If you plan on mixing on the small fader channels you are agreeing to manual recalls of all volume settings on half your board.

Yeah. These are valid points. Hmmmmm. Maybe some more used expanders will show up

Master_Splinter · 22nd October 2018

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Originally Posted by Rea ➡️

Best thing about New Console releases is that the previous generation(1608) will start popping up used for less expansive than ever...
Im waiting on the sidelines...

I have a fully loaded 1608 if you are interested, PM me?

Drumsound · 23rd October 2018

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Originally Posted by Jason rocks ➡️

For the price, the SSl AWS 948 seems to offer more options including saving your EQ settings. It seems the API is more of just a Controller for faders, and pan with an analog console.

The API EQs are switched, recall is pretty simple. My buddy has a vintage DeMedio with API components. He opens an audio track in the DAW and goes through each channels EQ without even needing recall sheets.

Wiggy Neve Slut · 23rd October 2018

Tony.. so say he has an api 550 HW eq he opens an EQ plug( hopefully) a 550! And replicated the HW settings in the plug and puts in bypass?

This way the bypassed plug is the recall source.. do I have you right?

Drumsound · 23rd October 2018

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Originally Posted by Wiggy Neve Slut ➡️

Tony.. so say he has an api 550 HW eq he opens an EQ plug( hopefully) a 550! And replicated the HW settings in the plug and puts in bypass?

This way the bypassed plug is the recall source.. do I have you right?

No, he adds a audio track and talks into it. i.e. "Channel one plus 2 db at 10k, minus 4 at .8 plus 6 at 50, Channel two etc etc." He can go to recall, solo that track of his own voice and adjust each of the console's 24 [mostly] 550s.

MGA · 2nd November 2018

I see this desk being more of a competitor to BAS Custom Series 75 but has the advantage of optional automation which the 75 doesn't have. Mind you I'd be more than happy with either!

ohmstorm · 2nd November 2018

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Originally Posted by Drumhead57 ➡️

This desk was a joy to behold!

$98K with automation, $89K without

$98K with automation, $89K without

i do not see all that "joy" : /

curere · 2nd November 2018

You also need to add $2200 for Bus Compressor, $1500 for the Legs. So why would you want to do this over a fully stocked AWS 948?

ARIEL · 3rd November 2018

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Originally Posted by curere ➡️

You also need to add $2200 for Bus Compressor, $1500 for the Legs. So why would you want to do this over a fully stocked AWS 948?

because someone prefers the API sonic sound instead of SSL

API Sez... 🎙️ · 5th November 2018

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Originally Posted by curere ➡️

You also need to add $2200 for Bus Compressor, $1500 for the Legs. So why would you want to do this over a fully stocked AWS 948?

You don't need to add $2200 if you already have a 2500 (lots of people do).
You also don't have to buy the stand - many people build their own furniture assemblies.
Options allow the buyer to fine tune the purchase to their needs (and maybe the SO's demands!!).

bforest4 · 14th November 2018

How well and how easy to use is a 1608 with automation as far as working as a protools controller? I wish there were scribble strips on each channel, but looks like track names come up on the main screen, and is that easy to navigate??

API Sez... 🎙️ · 14th November 2018

We, of course, think the automation is easy to use and that it works very well.

The automation user manual for the new Final Touch system is available here to help you make your own decision;

http://apiaudio.com/docs/manuals/Fin...r_18_10_15.pdf

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Gravity8058 · 13th January 2019

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Originally Posted by Drumsound ➡️

The API EQs are switched, recall is pretty simple. My buddy has a vintage DeMedio with API components. He opens an audio track in the DAW and goes through each channels EQ without even needing recall sheets.

I bet he’s got funny looking hair too

Drumsound · 13th January 2019

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Originally Posted by Gravity8058 ➡️

I bet he’s got funny looking hair too

And the craziest shoe collection you've ever seen!

Salty James · 2nd March 2019

Seems like an awesome console.

But I just don't understand why API won't bring the 200 series to market with a proper rack! Then folks can build up to a console. Also making a console that adds a 200 series row to the 1608 or 2448 seems like a killer idea!!

ezrashanti · 11th March 2019

They actually have a unity gain bypass available for the small faders. If I understand correctly you can basically hit one button and they will all be at unity gain so you can automate them from your daw. I believe you may be able to also hit a button to have the large faders represent the small fader channel levels for mixing as well (need to double check this). Obviously all of this would require the automation package. I think 24 channels with EQ and 24 with inserts sounds great if you want more channels at mixdown in a small for factor. Leaves half the channels for outboard.

Deleted 300228d · 19th March 2019

Who got one ? I want to hear a mix that it did

Salty James · 7th April 2019

I just checked one out at the factory. It sounds amazing and the Automation is very slick and versatile. Lots of different operational modes that the auto can do. They really planned this out. And small fader automation is an absurd luxury. This day in age there are a million reasons not to add that. Aside from it making the auto package more $$.

The 2448 is larger than it looks in photos. And the sound has all that sweet API goodness.

API's success rate with their products is pretty impressive. They just make great stuff!

raal · 7th April 2019

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Originally Posted by Salty James ➡️

And small fader automation is an absurd luxury.

My understanding is, there's a button that sets small fader gains to unity - their input sources can then be automated ITB, but i don't think automation as such exists on the small faders. Please correct me if i'm wrong.

noize_organizer · 8th April 2019

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Originally Posted by API Sez... ➡️

We, of course, think the automation is easy to use and that it works very well.

The automation user manual for the new Final Touch system is available here to help you make your own decision;

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The link doesn't work for me here - am I the only one?

API Sez... 🎙️ · 15th April 2019

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Originally Posted by noize_organizer ➡️

The link doesn't work for me here - am I the only one?

Sorry - Try this;

http://apiaudio.com/docs/manuals/Fin...er_19-1-09.pdf

noize_organizer · 15th April 2019

Thanks!

Wiggy Neve Slut · 25th April 2019

I’m so jealous I can’t possibly answer!

Salty James · 12th May 2019

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Originally Posted by Singlecutz ➡️

Other companies have various ways of addressing g this, including two EQs for larger and small fader, or in the case of some SSLs in this price range, a stereo EQ on each channel.

The SSL EQ is not stereo. When you split the EQ across both paths of a channel you also split the EQ. One path gets the main EQ the other gets high / low filters. Far from a stereo EQ.
Yes, I know they call it a stereo EQ.

raal · 12th May 2019

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salty James ➡️

The SSL EQ is not stereo. When you split the EQ across both paths of a channel you also split the EQ. One path gets the main EQ the other gets high / low filters. Far from a stereo EQ.
Yes, I know they call it a stereo EQ.

Didn't realize that...

noize_organizer · 13th May 2019

The website etc. says that they use a variation of the classic input stage - any idea what the difference in topology is between a vintage API and this one?
Obviously the 2520 won't be the same, but what about the rest?

Salty James · 28th June 2019

The 2520 is the same.

johnnypinstripe · 2 weeks ago

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Originally Posted by Drumhead57 ➡️

This desk was a joy to behold!

$98K with automation, $89K without

That’s funny that’s me in the pic

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