Hi every1,
I could really use some extra punch and hardness to alot of parts in my mixes.
Can u guys name some plugins(PC) that maintain punch or have alot OF, throughout eqing, compressing, and other processing.
I would like my mixes to sound a little harder than they do at the mo.
1 plugin if noticed with alot of punch is neodynium. How about eqs?
Thanks alot!

Try the new Voxengo LF-Punch.

Adding punch and hardness (distortion?) is an area where i think plugins struggle to match the sound of quality analog gear.........

try Eq'ing and then add a limiter afterwards.

You can really make drums get punchy!


Jason

I totally agree.. If think thats 1 of the big advantages of analog. But i know some plugs sound smoother and softer than others, as oposed to grainier and harder sounding plugs. Those are what im lookin for heh

Yeah, what Darius said.

I really can't stand the way plugins limiters 'chew up' the audio so badly.

The one plugin that I think might fit the bill is the PSP Vintage Warmer.

I got it several months ago, and I didn't spend enough time with it to get it sounding the way I wanted it to. Alphajerk was helpful; he took the time to explain some of the concepts to me. I've been using it more lately, but I find that to thicken things up without 'chewing up' the sound, it's best to leave the knee at zero and bring the drive control up until you get the desired sound. I only use it in multi-band mode, and I do get some use out of the release muiltipliers-per-band on the back of the plugin (although it's a drag to have to walk around to the back of the screen to adjust those knobs ) When I figured out to leave the knee at zero, though, it started to get a lot more use. Until I can dig up the cash for a good outboard mixbus comp.

I haven't really found any plugin EQ's that I think fatten things up the way I like. The Tritone is good, and the URS are good, but I only use them sparingly.


I also get a good deal of use out of the Ohm Force Frohmage. It's free, and it's a weird filterbank. But you can find a nice 'fattening' setting sometimes, if you keep it subtle. I use it on guitars and basses often. I set it up such that you can't tell it's there until you take it off, then you miss it.

How bouts that Sony Oxford EQ, gotta have TDM or powercore but I thinks its PHATS! ( I dont really talk this way)

Punch you say?

McDSP MC2000 & Compressor bank are the only plug-ins i've ever gotten "punch" from... use the BITE slider

forget about Waves or any of that other BS... maybe the URS stuff is cool too.

I second the PSP Vintage Warmer. That plug-in is one of my most used soft comps. From the minute I first used it to now its one of my favs for adding fattness and punch. Another one that can really punch good depending on the the material your working with is RenVOX its pretty picky, but for some things it'll hit like a good solid right hook to the chops.
For eq's Hydratone is top shelf, the FIRE nob is most impressive.

Get the free ParPLEQ [I might have letters mixed up] http://refinedaudiometrics.com/pages/16/index.htm and try combining with the free ColorTone by Tritone.

The are both above average freebies and can do a lot.

sony oxford transient modulator.

Max

Is that a free cut down version of the quad Frohmage?

I haven't come across that..

thanks

Rene

sony trans mod
a slammed analog channel - input up, output down
or...

slam a compressor into a limiter, but this can be kinda of iffy
w the noise floor and all, but it does give some PUNCH!!!

Sony Inlfator
UAD1 Fairchild
Voxengo Elephant, Marquis, HarmonEQ
Hydratone

I still think the Sonalksis comp is one of the best naitve compressors available... SUPER versitle... it does punch very well... demo it!

What about COMPADRE beatpuncher (PC only) or CamelPhat 3 (Mac & PC)? They work great on drums!

Second the beatpuncher plugin for interesting, vibey compression, but what you might be looking for is DigitalFishPhones Dominion. A great donationware transient modder.

Cheers.

Yep, it's free! Best bang-for-no-bucks plugin.

3rd world is right about the MC2000, but it's easy to make a mess of things if you can't hear what your doing really well.

I recently moved to PTHD with a Massive Pack 4 bundle. Smack is cool on some things (if you're using PT, I guess). McDSP's Channel G can do just about anything you can hope for...but again, TDM-only.

But, best bang-for-buck processor package out there is PSP's MixPack. The Mixpressor is worth the price of the whole package and can lay down some serious PUNCH - and the mix control is awesome for parallel compression without the need for bussing. The Mixsaturator is another tool that comes in handy in TONS of situations.

I also have Vintage Warmer and I find the MixPack processors far more useable.

got to agree with this.

Great compressor.

dbx 160 xt. It's affordable and it can "knock/punch " your brains out

If you plug it in (It's a plugin heh )

i was thinking about picking up the compadre. has anyone had the chance to compare it to any of the others mentioned? whatcha' think?

i think one can get good results with a punchy sound with plugins...first of all :

Always duplicate your track so that you can mix your processed sound with the unprocessed sound, in this way your sound never gets chewed up, because you can always put the untouched version in there....if the LF gets screwed just HP the dry signal a little etc. etc.

getting a fat sound with DAW plugins is not impossible, it just takes more time and attention then with analog gear....it also helps to have at least little hands-on/ears-on experience with real analog gear....and also it helps to listen to good examples and keep a-b- ing
until you get it right...

the more you do it the easier it gets

How do i install dll. files ?!?! help ? Im trying to install the dominon plug in but no go.

Drop it in your vst plugins folder.

I think EVERY engineer should have at least one dbx 160. I say learn it's sound then simulate it with either compressor bank or the digi comp

this looks hot.

I was really surprised about the lowend punch I could get from the URS A/A10 and S series eqs.

Andreas

sony inflator,
or just get the URS stuff and that should give you some push/vibe depending on how you use them.

Actually its the opposite IMO. Punch is all the about the envelope to me and its easier to control in digital. I dont think hardness has anything to do with distortion either..I think he is saying his mixes are too smooth--which is what analog does best.