Yeah, outdated doesn't even begin to describe the standard.

I know there is a way to connect firewire to thunderbolt and usb c...but does it work? I've read conflicting information about it.

Latest couple Mac OS versions don’t support FireWire or audio over FireWire.

I think the pc still supports.

Depends on the OS and the interface.

However in all cases FireWire audio is on borrowed time and could break at any point as OS vendors are not testing it anymore

Yes, and flawlessly as ever, only I had to play around with various compatibility modes in Win10 to get a Mackie Onyx Blackbird off to the races. I'd say an hour of experimentation beat spending $2,000 USD for something RME by a mile. That said, the previous poster is right, I wouldn't recommend it for long term. But if money is really tight, you can pick up the same interface for next to nothing, it's the best deal in pro audio. I'm also not sure what will happen once I switch to Win11, I'm kinda expecting that may be the end of the line. But maybe not -- the original ten-year-old Windows driver still rates in the upper third of lowest latency in Tafkat's long-running interface thread. It's like the best driver Thysycon (don't know exact spelling) ever wrote.

Hi
I have dual maudio profire2626 running under win 10 and 11 without any grief. I recommend a pcie v
Via 6315n based FireWire card and a good quality FireWire 400 cable.
Cheers rich

This is nonsense. I use a firewire audio interface on a M2 Pro
with 14.3.

Apple no longer support FireWire for CoreAudio and no longer test it. They removed their generic driver entirely in macOS 13. If a developer wrote their own driver then right now it does still work. For example MOTU no longer claim compatibility of their FireWire drivers with current macOS however if you install them they will still work.

However because Apple no longer supports it it could break at any point with any update and Apple would not consider it a bug and would not fix it.

Well the Motu Track16 certainly works through FireWire on AS and Sonoma.

My question is do firewire->USB-C/thunderbolt adapters actually work?

I have a firewire interface I want to ADAT with my new interface. Customer support told me I can run the interface w/o it being actively connected to firewire on the host computer.

BUT it does need to be connected at least once to set up the proper routing with the new interface in their control software.

I'm on W11 if that matters.

I have no idea about Windows however on macOS the Thunderbolt 3 -> Thunderbolt 2 + Thunderbolt 2 -> FireWire 800 adaptor combination works. As remarked above this does require that it's possible to install the driver on the OS you are using, supported or not.

Wow, four adapters! That's dedication.

And this works without any latency or jitter? It doesn't create any bottlenecks?

It would be worth trying, I'm pretty sure Windows 11 does support the drivers and mix software.

PCIe card and Linux. Works fine and probably will for a while.

Two adaptors, the Thunderbolt one is effectively a PCI bridge and the Firewire one just looks like a device on a PCI bus.

As I said works on macOS I have no idea if the Apple adaptors work on Windows.

Why not just get a PCIe / firewire card?

The OP may not have a computer with spare PCI-E slots.

here pc 8700k with pcie texas instruments firewire working perfect with my digi002 blacklion with this adapter

https://www.amazon.com/-/es/Adaptado...s%2C217&sr=8-6

I dedicated a10 year old Lenovo laptop to windows 10 with a pc card with Texas chip. I stopped system updates and it’s working perfectly with Allen Heath Zed R16. I like this solution as run Drawmer compressors on channel inserts and a TC Finalizer on master channels.

Working normally, full functionality on a new MBP M4max with mac thunderbolt 3>2>firewire connection to RME FF8000 on Sequoia 15.1.1
I had to enable kext extensions to get the drivers installed.

Does anyone know with the FF800 specifically (which RME isn't doing a Driverkit for) if I can re-enable the higher security in safeboot again without jeopardizing the FF800 functionality?

It will fail to load the KernelKit driver in full security mode what Reduced mode does is allow KernelKit drivers for classes of devices where Apple have obsoleted them and require a DriverKit driver.

As I keep on telling people all of this stuff is in the just about works but is unsupported realm and Apple *will* make changes that stop it working entirely at some point when their telemetry says few enough people will be impacted that they won’t get serious blowback.

Still use a Prism Orpheus via an adapter into a Macbook running Win 10. (Yes, I know that sounds odd)

Been fine for a couple of years.

I still do but on my main DAW, a 2012 MBP running either High Sierra(LP10.4.8/PT2021.10) or Catalina(LP10.6.3/PT2022.10). My combo Edirol FA-101/Audient Mico is working well on both partition-no drivers necessary-, and when I’m on HS I can also use my Apogee Ensemble Firewire without any issue. I didn’t bother trying to make the Apogee work on Catalina but maybe it does, I don’t know.

Those products still work awesome. Never have any problems with them although they’re 20 years old. Of course, both are a no go on my 2021 MBP running Sequoia.

Yep. Windows 10 and a MOTU 828 mk3 Hybrid via firewire.

I have two Echo AudioFire Pre8 interfaces. One is has been attached to my 'admin' Win10 HP Z220 tower through an Adaptec PCI (not PCIe) firewire card for the past 10 years. The second, I bought a few months ago for $75.

The second is in the piano room on the ground floor of my home (the studio is on the 3rd floor). It's attached through a Lenovo T400 laptop (4-pin firewire) for convenient in-room recording. I am using an ASP800 preamp's ADAT output into the Echo Pre8. The analog output of the ASP800 connects through a Behringer SD8 digital snake which goes onto AES50 up to the Midas M32 that is ADAT-connected to DAW-1, and AES50/USB-connected to DAW-2. Whew!

The Echo Pre8 has a beautiful combination of features (internal DSP-based signal routing, combo XLR-in, two Hi-Z inputs, MIDI-in/out, ADAT-in/out, SPDIF-in/out, BNC WordClock-in/out) ... much like a Focusrite 18i20, which would be the Pre8's natural replacement should firewire become impossible for me.

Motu 2408 mk3 only I can't use firewire anymore and the d/a on those is not good. But what is good is using them as ADAT cv audio converters for modular synth control. 8 x cv/gates sample accurate timing.

I keep an old iMac in the studio storage closet with the old Firewire external drives just in case of a catastrophic failure of systems. If that ever occurs I can boot up the old system and keep the work flowing until new computer and any needed hardware arrives and gets configured. It would mean going back to 2012 platforms but they work fine within their equipment domain.

Haven't needed it yet but one never knows. I did end up digging out my old analog phone hybrid a few years back when an ice storm blanketed the city and shut down business for several days. I got an early morning call from one of my ad agency clients asking if I could help them due to their in house studio being out of service due to the weather. They had a client who needed to call in his VO part for a radio spot. So I said yes and went to the attic. I had the old phone hybrid boxed with some other old gear, retrieved it, split some phone cable into pigtails, ran an RJ11 from the wall socket and pigtailed the other end to the connectors on the hybrid, and ran a quick test. It sounded great! An hour later the guy called in and I got him recorded, edited, and sent the audio to the agency's audio editor who was working from home. He had everything he needed to get the spot out the door except a phone patch.