Hello,

Is it possible with VST to sequence a sequence in order to create variation in a specific step? So

Cycle 1
C C C C

Cycle 2
C C G C

Cycle 3
C C B C

Third step it sequenced C G B


Regards
Hirre

I use Stepic and you can do this in Stepic, where you setup separate "scenes" of sequences. The sequencer in Avenger also does this. There are other's as well.

The problem with this is that already in my example there will be 3 pages one for C, G and B separate that is to be chained. If i want to cycle 5 notes then there is 5 pages, and with that i more or less loose control to make more changes on the fly to the sequence.

What do you think about some sort of automation or in VCV rack to control pitch with an LFO in some sort of setup?

Stepic allows up to 16 patterns (scenes) with up to 16 steps (notes) in each pattern, and it's easy to make changes on the fly.

Might want to look at Loomer Architect.

Yes, it is possible to have many scenes, the more scenes the more loss of control. What i meant by making changes on the fly is:

If you look at my example step 3 is cycled between C, G and B. Now lets say i made this by chaning 3 scenes together. If i now want to change step 1 i have to make the same change in all 3 scenes. And that is what i mean to loose the ability to make changes on the fly.

thanks for this, i will look into this. Also to knos is that i have 8 CV outputs from my audio interface (presonus 1824C). I was thinking of building a sequencer in VCV rack. What do you think about that?

Not familiar with VCVR, so can't have an opinion.
Regarding Loomer Architect, there's a quick start guide at this link, might give you an idea of the possibilities:
https://loomer.co.uk/downloads/archi...uick-start.pdf

With 16 scenes/patterns of 16 steps each you can easily do what you're trying to do. Don't over-think it.

Five12 Numerology sequencing software - Mac only but has VST as well as standalone .
https://www.five12.com/hq/N4

Useful integration with Launchpads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fzk...OmvvyAOK9rEDzT


Dev seems more focused on later hardware range (Vector sequencer) , though maintains the software , responds to bug reports
( & a fabled free! version 5 is reportedly still being worked on .)

somewhat price at 150 usd, but seems very capable. It can be worth a squeeze for it. Also seems as it can send cv signals out. That would be grate since i have a dc coupled interface.

seems like it can really do everything i would want. would be definetely worth 150 usd for sequencing and modultaing,

I forgot i recently changed my music production computer from mac to pc =/

Also the loomer architect there is not so much info or vidz out.

Thing is i think maybe to sequence the variation is the wrong way to go about it, maybe to automate it. i have no experience of automation.

A score setup would also do the trick because i would see more music in less space and hence not loose track of what is going on in a 64 step sequence.

Hey, maybe a bit late now but I think mutating the notes of a sequence using automation is usually a bad idea (it's difficult to blindly draw the right transpose values in the automation envelope).
If possible, try to control the pitch using the MIDI keyboard (or Piano Roll) instead.
Many step sequencers allow to transpose using MIDI notes. That way you can get creative on the fly and control your VST sequencer of choice live or using your DAW sequencer.
If you want to change more than just notes, pattern exchange while running (keeping the current position) would be an option, though not every step sequencer offers this. This way you would keep everything as is and just play a different pattern for a moment.
Another option is to split your main pattern into e.g. 4 parts of the size of a beat each. In your DAW sequencer you then sequence them to play in the regular order and when you want to change something, you simply rearrange things and insert patterns with a different beat.
There is also a step sequencer called HY-MPS2 which works by assembling such mini-patterns, each representing a beat, and you can create several chains that form your effective pattern.

I'd go for either Live's Follow Actions, Max8/Max4Live or indeed Architect. Another extremely powerful solution is going for Tidal Cycle and its algorithmic take on composition (much more straightforward than what you might first think).

FWIW, across the past couple of decades, I've relied chronologically on Numerology, Tidal Cycles, Architect and eventually Max / M4L for such flexibility with MIDI sequences.

wow, Tidal Cycle looks very interesting =)

Not Late! Yes the HY looks exactly like what i was looking for, i wonder if it can handle CV out from interface. In eurorack world what i need i understand now is a sequential switch. So i have 2 simple sequencers connected to a switch and a clock.