Well ... I had upgraded my CPU and MB, updated the BIOS firmware etc, found out about and sorted MBR & GPT partitioning to Secure Boot in UEFI ... all good ...
And the offer to upgrade to Win 11 arrives. New release, not a beta .iso.
Humm ...
I went for it.

It took about 30 minutes, with 2 reboots.
It all seems to work ...
- browsers, e-mail, LibreOffice ...
- Linn Kazoo
- Apollo UAD and iConnectivity
- DAWs and some instruments

So far, all seems fine ... "new look" neither amazing nor rubbish ... but similar to a typical Win10 update ... and it "just works".

Fingers crossed ...

Definitely going to wait a while as I don't want drivers or VST's randomly breaking. I did however drop in a second hand 3800X as an upgrade from my 1800X CPU so I'd be ready for the update. Apparently, Microsoft don't think a 4.1 GHz, 8-core Ryzen 1800X is enough to run MS Paint on Windows 11.

Nothing yet I have tried is broken, other than reloading (Qwerty) keyboard presets into iCue.
Helix and Fractal, Eventide working fine ... Ableton, Bitwig, Reaper and Studio One at least superficially ... various VST 2 & 3 ...

I'll switch to Win 10.1...oops I mean Win 11...when there's a loaded gun to my head. Course that's kind of how I felt going from Win 7 to Win 10, so I guess I'll assimilate eventually. :shudder:

Switched last Friday as well. It’s indeed as quick as any half year update. Everything remained working. Which was as expected as it’s merely a Win10 GUI overhaul. Not overly impressed, neither disappointed. It’s as exciting as your typical H1 or H2 update.
But driver concerns are a non issue, as far as drivers are concerned it’s still Win10. But now wth rounded corners and a centered taskbar.

I have too old computer for Windows 11. But it's enough powerful for what I do. I have started to feel the same with some audio software too. I am not upgrading them if I don't have to

Oh dear.

Official stable channel rollout starts October 5.

They say they're going for a "phased and measured" approach starting (it seems) with the newest hardware first, with all eligible systems offered the update by mid-2022.

Heads up - Sonarworks SoundID desktop app is broken in 22000.194
VST plugin works, but all apps that rely on the Windows Desktop app don’t. You will have direct (untreated) audio from them.
Ticket logged with Sonarworks.

Update, the new Sonarworks Beta works flawless.

been on win11 for 4 months, from beta to current realease. no issues with anything. everything that worked in win10 works in 11... for me at least

upgraded my laptop yesterday. It's my main domestic machine but I have Cubase Ai11 and a UR22-C interface for light audio duties and everything is working fine.

In fact it feels snappier overall I really like the GUI, I think it's the nicest windows yet visually.

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As soon as it appears in windows update on my systems, I'll jump in.

I can't remember....did Pete note anything of interest about win11 that may specifically benefit we daw users?

I have heard with win 11 they will release new CPU s as well (Alder Lake) They claim a greater performance with win 11 and these CPUs... We will see.

that's what I'm doing with my Main DAW as well.

If things work with windows 10, they'll work with 11...I mean If there's a Vista 64 bit driver it will still work for things . I got an M audio Profire 610 working on firewire perfectly with windows 10 using the Vista driver!! i recon it will work in 11 too. It's one Area windows trumps OSX hands down.


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Anybody running on the Insider channel? I've been on it since they started pushing out. I know the RTM build is supposedly a build from June. Debating on staying on the Insider channel newer builds, or wiping clean and using the RTM build (new pc btw, nothing setup on this one yet, will be transitioning to my main DAW)

I take it everyone who's posted here has installed Win11 over Win10 as opposed to going for a fresh install?

Is a fresh install even an option?

Win10 drivers just work in Win11?

Yes, if you are part of the insiders program, there is an ISO.

Drivers are working fine, lots of companies already have Windows 11 drivers since release is next Friday (Oct 5th)

Steinberg is not reccomdeing updating to 11 because its not tested yet

i wonder if vst3 plugins might work.

i will not test it for myself yet, for sure

I haven't worked through mine systematically... but every one I have used is just fine ... in fact I haven't found anything that isn't...

Microsoft and Intel both need to convince people to keep buying Microsoft+Intel systems over the next few years while they try to catch up with Apple's disruptive M series chips. I think the collaboration on Alder Lake is an element of this.

Well, that's my theory at least.

Obviously the default and simplest path is free upgrade for those eligible.

But, yes, you can clean install. Check out this and this.

Not sure there will be much to gain though, unless there are issues with your Win10x64 or you're moving from some other OS. Back before Windows 7 doing clean installs regularly seemed to fix a lot of accumulated issues, but this seems to barely be a problem since at least Windows 8.

I'm going to be fairly conservative about moving. My Win10x64 setup is very stable and carefully configured. I hope to see a few incremental updates to Win11 before I move, as well as giving software vendors a bit of time to test and sort out any quirks.

I'll move to Win11 in due course, but I don't have a particular need to rush, so I shalln't.

Cubase works just fine. So do plugins.

they say this with every OS update. ON windows I think it's less of a problem than OSX which does tent to break things. I've not had a cubase version that hasn't worked with an OS update since win 7.

It is always worth doing a disk image/backup though if it's your main system and you really want to be on the update edge.


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Obviously the GUI is the visible part. But there's a lot more under the hood. A lot of it is security-related. Some is related to performance, especially on Big/little and Arm processors. But we've done similar types of things in the Spring Windows 10 releases over the years as well.

General performance improvements, but nothing DAW-specific.

For musicians relying on their PC for their day-to-day work, I suggest holding for now if you're not technical or time-constrained. But if you're a general enthusiast and like to try the new stuff, then have at it.

Pete

I've saw this video, in the first part they talk about a new win 11 feature that impact game performance, but i think it could just impact performance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvTCc0iXGcQ

Any thought?

Freaking noob show of Linux Fanbois kicking in open doors. Clickbait for PC noobs

Clearly only an issue for future products from large (HP, Lenovo size) manufacturers... not gor current machines, almost certainly not for small builders either ...

I have no desire to watch that whole video.

Is this about the CPU virtualization?

If so, that's the #1 reason for requiring 8th gen and later CPUs (or equivalent). No perf hit if the CPU supports the right hardware virtualization.

I've already seen some very click-baity articles that have been misrepresenting this. I'm happy to look at real data/tests, though.

Pete

Yes Pete ... I think this about VBS ... in the gaming domain ... vague stuff ... and probably like changes to E10 petrol, "concerns" relate maybe to old or to highly-tuned edgey stuff ...

Why are people updating when some of the companies are saying certain products are not compatible yet, and then users get mad.