Originally Posted by Ibra ➡️

If PA comes out with a plugin container like Waves’ newest version of StudioRack, then it’s pretty much game over for Waves

Originally Posted by kindafishy ➡️

I saw that you were saying they didn't null with each other (the PA vs the UAD versions), but how are you perceiving the differences? Does one have advantages over the other in terms of workflow or sound as you see it?

Originally Posted by Plugin Alliance

SPL Vitalizer MK2-T - Changelog

Version 1.15 (May 27, 2020)
- General: Qualified for use with the Windows 10 May 2020 Update
- General: VST3: Fixed potential hangs in a DAW upon loading
- General: Fixed logical issues in undo / redo behavior
- General: Fixed UI resizing issues in Ableton Live on Windows
- General: Fixed audio processing initialization issues on amp and delay products

Version 1.14 (Nov 06, 2019)
- General: Qualified for use with macOS 10.15 Catalina
- General: Qualified for use with Windows 10 November 2019 Update
- General: Fixed plugin validation in Logic under macOS Catalina
- General: Fixed preset name restore in Logic when reopening a session
- General: Fixed opening authorization dialog triggering automation
- General: Improved instantiation times for plugins
- General: Improved license functionality and branding for subscription
- General: Removed 32-bit support on macOS and Windows

Version 1.13 (Jul 10, 2019)
- General: macOS 10.14.5 Update compatibility
- General: Windows 10 1903 Update compatibility
- General: Fixed activation issue in Windows hosts set to non-English language (e.g. Cakewalk)
- General: AU: Fixed issue with increased CPU and memory on reopening UI
- General: VST3: Fixed issue with adapting to host knob mode, and now prioritizing linear
- General: VST3: Fixed issue with VST3 preset permissions
- General: VST3: Improved synchronization between parameter states and some UI functions, e.g. toolbar reset

Version 1.12 (Nov 16, 2018)
- General: macOS Mojave compatibility
- General: Windows October 2018 update compatibility
- General: adding Windows High DPI support for VST2/3 plugins
- General: Fixed potential crashes in Cubase and other VST2 / VST3 DAWs
- General: Fixed potential CPU spikes and audio dropouts
- General: Fixed rendering in Pro Tools on the start of a session
- General: Fixed missing presets in Wavelab and other VST3 DAWs
- General: Improving keyboard control, fixing issues with catched keys preventing it from passing through to DAW
- General: Fixed parallel use of host sessions (e.g. with Live)

Version 1.11 (May 24, 2018)
- General: Microsoft Windows Redstone 4 compatibility
- General: Added computer keyboard control for plugin parameters
- General: Fixed Mouse scroll wheel not working in Windows 8
- General: Fixed an issue where plugins will not validate or load after a certain amount of plugins have been loaded (Windows)
- General: Fixed visual GUI freezes when adjusting DAW parameters, meters, analyzers (Mac)
- General: Fixed possible issue with Pick Pack licenses
- General: Small licenser stability fix

Version 1.10 (Oct 23, 2017)
- General: Mac OS High Sierra compatibility
- General: Fixed possible crash on online activation (Mac OS High Sierra)
- General: Fixed Logic Pro X not validating AU plugins (Mac OS High Sierra)
- General: Fixed CPU spikes and crashes with Cubase (Windows)
- General: Fixed bug that could lead to "AAE -6 error" in ProTools (Windows)
- General: Fixed crash with FL Studio
- General: Fixed crash when cross-opening plugins in various hosts
- General: Fixed crash when using mixdown in Audition
- General: Fixed crash in Final Cut Pro
- General: Fixed delayed parameter handling and crackling issues in Cubase with VST3
- General: Fixed bug where plugin settings were not saved in Harrison Mixbus
- General: Fixed bug that led to AAE error -9317 in ProTools when instantiating plugin
- General: Fixed bug where plugins did not render properly when "x ray" option is enabled in Sonar
- General: Modifications to factory presets were lost when reopening session
- General: Fixed mouse wheel behaviour with second monitor setup (Windows)
- Some plugins: Value labels do not appear every time when clicking on parameter in UI
- General: Faster instantiation time for plugins (Windows)
- General: Adding support for automation highlighting in Presonus StudioOne

Version 1.9.1 (Dec 20, 2016)
- General: Mac OS Sierra compatibility
- General: Fixed automation issues in AU and AAX
- General: Fixed license dialog use of special characters
- General: Improved AU preset support
- General: Performance improvements

Version 1.9 (Apr 1, 2016)
- General: Major UI codebase update
- General: Fixed possible crash when authorizing plugin
- General: Added gain reduction meter support for StudioOne 3
- General: Installers show version info in Windows "Programs And Features"

Version 1.8.4 (Jan 18, 2016)
- General codebase update
- Removing RTAS/TDM/VENUE 32-bit format support

Version 1.8.3 (Jul 18, 2015)
- General codebase update

Version 1.8.2 (Jun 22, 2015)
- General codebase update
- Signal oversampling fix

Version 1.8.1 (May 27, 2015)
- Fixed wrong installation path for 32-bit Win VST plugin version

Version 1.8 (Apr 14, 2015)
- Added AAX DSP format
- Fixed crackling artifacts when changing the bass compressor parameter

Version 1.7 (Nov 18, 2013)
- Licenser update (V3): Fixes and new features
- Prevent wrong mouse wheel behavior in 32-bit hosts on 64-bit Windows (Windows bug) (87, 95, 156)
- Fixed keyboard events after text input in Pro Tools Windows (325)
- Fixed parameter value display in VST3 (330)
- Fixed toolbar triggering automation (335)
- Fixed window size issues (279, 327)
- Fixed possible preset issues in Pro Tools 11 (312)
- Fixed AAX Audiosuite latency compensation (311)

Version 1.6.2 (Jul 5, 2013)
- fixed sound issues

Version 1.6.1 (Jun 28, 2013)
- fixed installer for 32-bit Windows

Version 1.6 (Jun 21, 2013)
- added support for Pro Tools 11
- licenser update: fixes and new features
- fixed automation with VST3 offline processing

Version 1.5 (Apr 05, 2013)
- optimized performance
- fixed issues with possible high CPU load
- fixed Avid related issue in Pro Tools 10 that could lead to sporadic crashes
- fixed issue that could lead to values jumping in Ableton Live

Version 1.4.4 (Jan 16, 2013)
- added support for high resolution displays (e.g. Apple Retina)
- licenser: improved Pro Tools activation

Version 1.4.3 (Oct 31, 2012)
- fixed potential TDM automation issue under Mac OS
- licenser: minor fixes
- licenser: fixed activation issue under Mac OS 10.5 / Pro Tools 8
- licenser: fixed potential crash in online activation under Mac OS
- licenser: fixed issues with USB stick activation
- licenser: fixed file handling with offline activation

Version 1.4.2 (Jun 22, 2012)
- Licenser update: added toolbar and USB activation
- Fixed response issues in AU format
- change company string to Plugin Alliance

Version 1.4.1 (Jan 28, 2012)
- Resolved DAE/AAX AudioSuite incompatibility
- Fixed audio problems with certain licenses

Version 1.4 (Jan 2, 2012)
- Added presets
- Added AAX Native
- Added 64-bit support
- Added Plugin Alliance Licenser

Originally Posted by strange loop ➡️

For those who own the PA SPL Vitalizer:
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Originally Posted by jzero ➡️

I have a ton of synths and I like them all. (Vacuum Pro, Loom II, Codex, LION, Flow Motion, Vital, Thorn, Factory, Metawave, Aquiver, Granite, Pigments 2, Sonic Forest, Atheos, Palindrome, Sektor, Aetherarp, Harmor, Sytrus)

Is Zebra, Hive, or Generate remarkably better/different?

Originally Posted by jzero ➡️

I have a ton of synths and I like them all. (Vacuum Pro, Loom II, Codex, LION, Flow Motion, Vital, Thorn, Factory, Metawave, Aquiver, Granite, Pigments 2, Sonic Forest, Atheos, Palindrome, Sektor, Aetherarp, Harmor, Sytrus)

Is Zebra, Hive, or Generate remarkably better/different?

Originally Posted by monkeyxx ➡️

I also seem to like Repro, which I just bought, but haven't used in a few months. It can be super snappy and annoying, which I love, mainly the monophonic one.

Prophet pads, polyphonic and such, are something I need to learn as well. I love hearing them on records but I've never got them to work under my own hands.

Originally Posted by monkeyxx ➡️

Just played Repro 5 for a minute, really great sounds. I think I'll have a bit of a honeymoon with this one. The force is strong with this one.

It was chewing up my CPU but I'm not sure if my computer is in the best shape right now.

Originally Posted by Monkey Man ➡️

Na mate it's not your fault; it's a little-bit of a hog apparently.

Sounds great but haven't been able to justify buying it yet. Maybe one day...

Originally Posted by monkeyxx ➡️

Just to mention it, Akai is selling AIR Instruments 3 for $9.99. I already had two of them but I wanted Loom version 2, since I had version one. I think I nearly have a complete AIR collection now. Don't know why those intrigue me so much, a lot of the synths sound great. The mixing plugins are a little less useful. Cheap.

Also got the free Bedroom Producers Blog Dirty Filter and the newer Saturator.

These three plugins work perfectly together. The Loom II on its own can be crispy bright, and the BPB stuff fattens it right up in a jiffy.

Originally Posted by MustacheVerra ➡️

Last minutes impulse buy from PA was elysia phils cascade, was i right? Tell me i was please. I swear this is my last distortion plugin.

Originally Posted by SPProductions ➡️

What’s the best way spend the voucher?
The sale prices were a lot cheaper :(

Originally Posted by SPProductions ➡️

What’s the best way spend the voucher?
The sale prices were a lot cheaper :(

Originally Posted by SPProductions ➡️

Thankyou.
Is it possible for me to use mine and somebody else’s voucher?
I would try but cannot as I don’t have two codes so am asking.

Originally Posted by MustacheVerra ➡️

Last minutes impulse buy from PA was elysia phils cascade, was i right? Tell me i was please. I swear this is my last distortion plugin.

Originally Posted by MustacheVerra ➡️

Last minutes impulse buy from PA was elysia phils cascade, was i right? Tell me i was please. I swear this is my last distortion plugin.

Originally Posted by Eigenwert ➡️

I was really wondering about the PA and UAD versions of the Vitalizer not nulling out so I started further investigations.

First I looked into the "About" tabs of both plugins. Both were developed by the same developer! However, only the PA version says "Version 1.15" while the UAD Version doesn't announce any version.

Then I looked into the changelog of the PA version.

snip...

Especially the fix in Version 1.6.2 ("fixed sound issues") sticks out, other than that there was an oversampling fix (and then there were some general codebase updates which obviously are not supposed to influence the sound).

Finally I did a listening test with vastly exaggerated settings on the master. There I found out that the UAD version seriously lacks midrange! I don't have the OG to compare but I think the UAD version doesn't sound right as the PA version has a rather sweet midrange sound to it, not only boosting the bass like the UAD version does.

I assume that the fix in Version 1.6.2 seriously is affecting the sound and that it never got rolled out to the UAD version. In fact, the UAD release notes only mentions the initial release of the Vitalizer (Version 6.0.0 - September 1, 2011) and no update at all: https://help.uaudio.com/hc/en-us/art...-Release-Notes

Conclusion/ recommendation: Don't buy (or even use your existing license of) the UAD SPL Vitalizer, go with the PA version instead.

It's a shame given the fact how expensive the UAD version is.

Originally Posted by NeoVXR ➡️

I use this early in the decision process, when I find a recorded instrument or a group in the raw mix too raw and cheap sounding. When I want to change its character quite a bit.
It reveals quickly, if this leads to something. Else, I use another exciter or saturator or whatever.
This is not analytic or surgical at all, though later some settings must be fine-tuned, because treble or bass can become too much when we get carried away with the sweet or "wet" sound.

When the mixing process has come very far already, introducing the Vitalizer creates a big change, and with analytic corrections (like was talked about mid-range) we won't get far - what it does, can't be undone. Again, it fits and we like the change, or it doesn't.