Originally Posted by cowboycoalminer ➡️

I bought it for a kick mic. Which in that app is a beast. I no longer track live drums, (sold kit). I now only use Superior 2.0 Nashville sdx. I have used it on vox. It's not overly sibilant. I used it on lead vox on the tune below. This was from about a year ago. It's on the kick in this one as well.

Originally Posted by ShadowAMD ➡️

The Mic isn't my cup of tea.

Originally Posted by cowboycoalminer ➡️

Nor mine, thus the sale

Originally Posted by famousbass ➡️

I know a few guys who's whole studio business is built around a mixing desk, a computer and massive amounts of illegally obtained software. Under a grand.
I hate dealing with them and always deflect when they call for help.
The short answer is, no, under a grand and nothing is professional anywhere you look, even 2nd hand.

Originally Posted by guitarboy94 ➡️

Just the other day I realized how great my raw recordings are starting to sound after two painful years of buying and selling sub-par mics and preamps. I decided to tally up exactly how much I have invested in my current equipment. To my surprise, I came to the conclusion that around 1 grand can purchase a setup that can yield pro recorded raw tracks, which can later be mixed and mastered by a specialized studio (and I stress the word can, provided one is a competent musician, songwriter and knows how to use that equipment). Keep in mind that I'm doing acoustic singer/songwriter type of stuff.

Here is my setup:

Focusrite ISA ONE preamp: $380 new from Ebay
Shure Sm7b: $250 used from Ebay
Oktava MK012 pencil microphone: $150 used on Ebay
EMU1212 soundcard: $150 new on Ebay
Monster XLR cable: $20
Sonar Producer 8 software: $100 new
Headphones: $60
Monitors: Used off ebay 100 bucks.

Total comes to 1250 skins.

Now go make some great recordings!

Originally Posted by Vides7 ➡️

The most important are the ears all the best great set

Vides 7

Originally Posted by Enlightened Hand ➡️

I think this is again getting into an argument that's not being made.

Who said it's not possible, likely or whatever to produce high quality results on so called "low end" gear? It's entirely possible. That has never been in dispute. The catch is knowing how to use it.

This thread was started on the premise that one can have a professional home studio for 1k. There are multiple problems with that assertion with regard to what it means to be "professional" or what a studio is and all that. But the OP came out originally saying that he personally was capable of recording high quality tracks with 1k of gear. He went on to say he was attempting to motivate others that they could do the same and that they shouldn't be held back by the cost of entry into recording. He was asked to display his work and then he responded that he would once it was additionally handled by other professionals through their gear and with their expertise. That's a completely different claim than the original one.

If we take this latter mode of thinking into consideration then the argument becomes: "You can have professional sounding results through a combination of the gear and skill of a team of amateurs and professionals working together to make the best sounding product." That's not even remotely the same as what was originally claimed. It's not even newsworthy. We all know that we can get a great result from home recordings that have been handled by professionals.

The additional argument that "music is about the end product" is also irrelevant. We also all know that. But this thread, this forum, this discussion is aimed at people that engage in the process of music production. Those folks are VERY concerned with the HOW, the WHAT of music creation. To motivate those folks means that when you make a claim of being able to do something, a specific claim, then you should at least show that you can do it.

We've gotten into an entire world of discussion about the status of microphones and cost versus signal topology and component design and implementation, as well as several folks that seem to take offense to the idea of the OP being asked to show what he's claiming. None of that has anything to do with the thread. It's all just peripheral discussion that beats around the bush.

The bottom line is we wanted to hear what this OP was talking about, honestly, unvarnished and he refused. So his claim is in doubt. That doesn't mean it's not possible to do. It means that he has not demonstrated his ability to do it, which leads one to ask the question: Why make a claim such as this without backing it up? What does that do for the thousands of new folks that want to desperately believe they can do what they dream of for a paltry sum of investment?

I say it misleads them and to mislead folks that are starting out on the "low end" of the gear spectrum is a great way to add to the confusion that permeates the record production community even at the very top. I for one would like to see an end to that confusion. I think it starts with simply making claims that make sense and then backing them up with simple evidence so that when people repeat (as they surely will) what you say they can point to the evidence and know they heard it with their own ears. That to me equals less nonsense to wade through later in the world of recorded audio.

Originally Posted by Bloodstar57 ➡️

So So true. I was mislead as well when i started out. As i come to better understand thing i come to realize this is almost like riding motorcycles IMO. For those who learned to ride they will understand.

I first went to riding school to learn how to ride to pass the road test. After that i rode a little crap 250cc for a year( one fall on this bike;my fault) After i had some experience i went to a 600cc; tons of seat time 3 falls all my fault, lot of race track time as well. Next i went to a 750cc actually got 2 One for the street one for the track; 2 falls( not my fault). Now i'm ready for a 1000cc (Bmw heh) for track only. Although the falling part is rather irrelevant (i think God i'm still alive) the progressive steps is what i think is important.

Nothing wrong with starting out with a 250cc bike or Art tube Mic pre, they are more forgiving when you make a mistake. Most people that start out with a 1000cc as their first bike seriously hurt themselves or worst get killed; it's not forgiving of amateur mistakes at all.Beginners don't have the skill and experience to handle such a fine piece of equipment. Just like if you put a CL1B in my hands a year ago i would have make crappy music. Not because it not a fine piece of equipment but rather i didn't have the skill to use it properly. Some experienced user can say "it's hard to make it sound bad" this is true but only in the realm of a other experienced users. just like i can say "It's had to make that R6 or GSXR 750 not go fast around the track" To other experienced user that is true but to a novice it's not. hope this makes sense

Rant over

Originally Posted by Bloodstar57 ➡️

So So true. I was mislead as well when i started out. As i come to better understand thing i come to realize this is almost like riding motorcycles IMO. For those who learned to ride they will understand.

I first went to riding school to learn how to ride to pass the road test. After that i rode a little crap 250cc for a year( one fall on this bike;my fault) After i had some experience i went to a 600cc; tons of seat time 3 falls all my fault, lot of race track time as well. Next i went to a 750cc actually got 2 One for the street one for the track; 2 falls( not my fault). Now i'm ready for a 1000cc (Bmw heh) for track only. Although the falling part is rather irrelevant (i think God i'm still alive) the progressive steps is what i think is important.

Nothing wrong with starting out with a 250cc bike or Art tube Mic pre, they are more forgiving when you make a mistake. Most people that start out with a 1000cc as their first bike seriously hurt themselves or worst get killed; it's not forgiving of amateur mistakes at all.Beginners don't have the skill and experience to handle such a fine piece of equipment. Just like if you put a CL1B in my hands a year ago i would have make crappy music. Not because it not a fine piece of equipment but rather i didn't have the skill to use it properly. Some experienced user can say "it's hard to make it sound bad" this is true but only in the realm of a other experienced users. just like i can say "It's had to make that R6 or GSXR 750 not go fast around the track" To other experienced user that is true but to a novice it's not. hope this makes sense

Rant over

Originally Posted by Johnmack ➡️

Now, here's the question, with all your experience in the recording industry, do you think that you could make an acceptable sounding recording of an acoustic guitar, with $1000 worth of equipment ?

In Fact, do any of the pro's on this forum think that they could do it ?. The choice of kit is your's.

Originally Posted by ears2thesky ➡️

If the title of this tread were:

You CAN achieve pro results with a 1 Grand signal chain.

or

You CAN record pro tracks at home for 1 Grand.

I think there would be less argument as the assertion would be based on facts. However, it has become clear to everyone including the OP that the idea of a pro home studio for $1000 is not realistic.

This thread has degenerated into a mic comparison discussion. Let's kill it once and for all and maybe start a new thread about inexpensive mics that kick ass.

Verdict: Thread premise false.

Originally Posted by ears2thesky ➡️

If the title of this tread were:

You CAN achieve pro results with a 1 Grand signal chain.

or

You CAN record pro tracks at home for 1 Grand.

I think there would be less argument as the assertion would be based on facts. However, it has become clear to everyone including the OP that the idea of a pro home studio for $1000 is not realistic.

This thread has degenerated into a mic comparison discussion. Let's kill it once and for all and maybe start a new thread about inexpensive mics that kick ass.

Verdict: Thread premise false.

Originally Posted by Johnmack ➡️

Now, here's the question, with all your experience in the recording industry, do you think that you could make an acceptable sounding recording of an acoustic guitar, with $1000 worth of equipment ?

In Fact, do any of the pro's on this forum think that they could do it ?. The choice of kit is your's.

Originally Posted by ears2thesky ➡️

If the title of this tread were:

You CAN achieve pro results with a 1 Grand signal chain.

or

You CAN record pro tracks at home for 1 Grand.

I think there would be less argument as the assertion would be based on facts. However, it has become clear to everyone including the OP that the idea of a pro home studio for $1000 is not realistic.

This thread has degenerated into a mic comparison discussion. Let's kill it once and for all and maybe start a new thread about inexpensive mics that kick ass.

Verdict: Thread premise false.

Originally Posted by kidvybes ➡️

...I contend the OP never really believed his own premise for this thread...

...if you look at guitarboy94's eBay account, you will see that he's sold a Rode NT1-A, an Audio-Technica AT4047SV, an Oktava MK 319 Condenser Microphone modded by JJ Audio, a Studio Projects C1, an Audio-Technica AT4040, an MXL V67 Condenser Mic (w/Oktavamod Neumann U87 Upgrade), a Shure SM58, a Sennheiser MK4, an Audio-Technica Pro 37, and is currently selling his CM-5, all within the past year...

...I mean, why purchase (just to turn around and resell) all this gear, if you really believe you're already in "Pro" territory?...

...but, on a more positive note, he has qualified as a true "gearslut"...heh

Originally Posted by kidvybes ➡️

...I contend the OP never really believed his own premise for this thread...

...if you look at guitarboy94's eBay account, you will see that he's sold a Rode NT1-A, an Audio-Technica AT4047SV, an Oktava MK 319 Condenser Microphone modded by JJ Audio, a Studio Projects C1, an Audio-Technica AT4040, an MXL V67 Condenser Mic (w/Oktavamod Neumann U87 Upgrade), a Shure SM58, a Sennheiser MK4, an Audio-Technica Pro 37, and is currently selling his CM-5, all within the past year...

...I mean, why purchase (just to turn around and resell) all this gear, if you really believe you're already in "Pro" territory?...

...but, on a more positive note, he has qualified as a true "gearslut"...heh

Originally Posted by mhs2xs ➡️

That, and the fact his subsequent arguments that the title of the thread is indeed correct, sometimes, maybe, what day is it now? And he'd have one decent mic locker had he kept all his "colors".

Originally Posted by ShadowAMD ➡️

I'm not quite shure (PUN!) that guitar boy realises that the thread says " You CAN have a pro home studio for under 1 Grand!".

So Guitar boy if I send you a guy with an 8 piece drum kit, two guitarist's with Mesa cabs. A bass guitarist and a wildly screaming singer, are you going to cover it for a grand? Even attempt at getting a decent recording, never the less a professional one.

If the thread says "Hi, You CAN own a pro home studio IF you only do acoustic music at home in a space that is some how acoustically ready to mix, record and master in."

I'm just going to say it once and for all, You can do pro sounding acoustic track's at home with some common sense and the right attitude (You and the Room first, Mid / Low end gear second).

But you can't have a PRO home studio for under $1K, I deal with more than just a guy and a guitar. (Not saying there is anything wrong with a guy and a guitar

Originally Posted by guitarboy94 ➡️

"Hi, You CAN own a pro home studio IF you only do acoustic music at home in a space that is some how acoustically ready to mix, record and master in."

And how would all this junk fit into a subject line? Titles are catchy for a reason. Trust me, I have a degree in Marketing. Anyone who took thirty seconds to read the body of the thread would get a sense of the thread. Titles exist to catch the eye. Nothing more, nothing less.

Originally Posted by brianellefson ➡️

Sometimes this thread reads like we're critiquing his english paper. "Here's what you SHOULD'VE written ..."

SPOILER ALERT:
There is NO END to this. It's just become a bunch of us arguing what he should've written. I'm not gonna fight ya. I'm making a personal commitment to myself to just walk away and stop reading.

Originally Posted by cavern ➡️

Agreed but what about:

Instruments
Computer
Monitors
Peanut butter sandwiches.

Originally Posted by cavern ➡️

Not yet! i was the first poster in this thread and still want to know:
WHAT ABOUT THE PEANUT BUTTER SANDWICHES???

Originally Posted by kidvybes ➡️

...I contend the OP never really believed his own premise for this thread...

...if you look at guitarboy94's eBay account, you will see that he's sold a Rode NT1-A, an Audio-Technica AT4047SV, an Oktava MK 319 Condenser Microphone modded by JJ Audio, a Studio Projects C1, an Audio-Technica AT4040, an MXL V67 Condenser Mic (w/Oktavamod Neumann U87 Upgrade), a Shure SM58, a Sennheiser MK4, an Audio-Technica Pro 37, and is currently selling his CM-5, all within the past year...

Originally Posted by brianellefson ➡️

There is NO END to this. It's just become a bunch of us arguing what he should've written.