Novation Summit - Page 31

uhoh7 · 22nd February 2020

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Originally Posted by markodarko ➡️

...for now.

You’ll come full circle. Mark my words.

My words I tell thee. MY WORDS!

<cue: maniacal laughter>

me too:

Once and Future King by unoh7, on Flickr

16 parts. Does almost everything. JP8000 killing saw. Wavetables. Soundcard. Outstanding effects. Nicest keyboard build I've ever seen. You can burn the ROM. I paid 1150 delivered.

They are such a steal right now. The TIv1. Another 700 for the 2, but features are near identical.

The last truly superb synth before DAWs wiped the earth clean and made us forget what great hardware can do. Makers are so proud now to come up with four parts. ASM can only do one---beyond lame for any digital synth.

MPIRUS TI by unoh7, on Flickr

My new 2003 JJOS MPC 1000 drives it like a herd of Kawasaki H1 Mach IIIs

Turns out the best hardware sequencer in 2020 is also pre-daw and multi-skilled. Killin combo, as the TI does not sample. I love them, but I had to study---worth every tear.

Also note the pre-cursor to Korg's new plastic RasPI Super-Rompler. The 1000+ preset, great sounding JV1010. I have layers now like I never dreamed, another fun thing about multi-part. Proteus 1 in the shadows. I have a BCR-2000 coming to get some realtime mods going in those two 16 part Rompies. The rich channel gets a extra DM12, and RD-8 on Drums with plenty of sampled backup.

18 note Elka pedals get their channel, and Styolphone Gen R8 to eat those romples.

Playing this new setup I take a breath: Rome is certainly on fire. Midi DIN strewn like spaghetti. Laptop just shows my scores. Free at last.

ABuzz223 · 23rd February 2020

Has anyone experimented with running effects in series rather than in parallel? The second I switch to one of the series modes, the sound distorts considerably. I'm trying to determine if this is an issue with me, an issue with my particular unit, or an issue with the Summit in general.

Deleted 9f8e583 · 23rd February 2020

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Originally Posted by ABuzz223 ➡️

Has anyone experimented with running effects in series rather than in parallel? The second I switch to one of the series modes, the sound distorts considerably. I'm trying to determine if this is an issue with me, an issue with my particular unit, or an issue with the Summit in general.

I think I remember a similarly broken behavior on the Peak.

SerErris · 23rd February 2020

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Originally Posted by cognistudio ➡️

More bloody annoyances... Could any Summit users confirm this bug affects them as well?

Peak voice stealing bug during attack phase

Am I too OCD to make music? If you told me this is hardware limitation, like it depends on how quickly caps bleed and it is inconsistent, I would totally understand, but this is all just crappy programming.

Summit has a new firmware 1.4.3 and this is now .... different.

Check it out. It now does not do an odd voice steal, but instead is not playing the full voice, but keeps on running the old ones until the attack is done. So something changed, but still not what I would expect.

Or does my memory fail me and it was like that all the time? I remember that if I played a note the other notes would stop and only one voice would play regardlessly of the unison factor.

ABuzz223 · 24th February 2020

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Originally Posted by Deleted 9f8e583 ➡️

I think I remember a similarly broken behavior on the Peak.

Did you determine if that was a hardware issue? Or something potentially fixable in firmware?

jgoz · 24th February 2020

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Originally Posted by ABuzz223 ➡️

Has anyone experimented with running effects in series rather than in parallel? The second I switch to one of the series modes, the sound distorts considerably. I'm trying to determine if this is an issue with me, an issue with my particular unit, or an issue with the Summit in general.

I've experimented with this on a few patches and I've definitely noticed a difference between parallel/series, but it was more or less what I would expect. E.g., in C-D-R series, reverb is being applied to the overall wet/dry output of the delay and chorus. But I didn't notice anything I would call distortion (unless I had applied some Distortion). Fairly certain I have at least a couple patches using serial routing.

Have you contacted support about it? Can you post a demo clip?

ABuzz223 · 25th February 2020

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Originally Posted by jgoz ➡️

I've experimented with this on a few patches and I've definitely noticed a difference between parallel/series, but it was more or less what I would expect. E.g., in C-D-R series, reverb is being applied to the overall wet/dry output of the delay and chorus. But I didn't notice anything I would call distortion (unless I had applied some Distortion). Fairly certain I have at least a couple patches using serial routing.

Have you contacted support about it? Can you post a demo clip?

I contacted Novation support yesterday, but haven't heard back yet. Here's a clip of what I'm talking about. This is with an initialized patch, 1 saw oscillator, all effects levels turned down to 0. The first four notes are with parallel FX, the second set of four is with FX in series. Any of the series routings sound exactly the same. It's definitely more noticeable through headphones/monitors than my computer speakers, but it almost sounds like a slight bit crushing effect. I would think that with all effects levels turned down, there should be no difference between parallel and serial routing.

Deleted 9f8e583 · 25th February 2020

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Originally Posted by ABuzz223 ➡️

I contacted Novation support yesterday, but haven't heard back yet. Here's a clip of what I'm talking about. This is with an initialized patch, 1 saw oscillator, all effects levels turned down to 0. The first four notes are with parallel FX, the second set of four is with FX in series. Any of the series routings sound exactly the same. It's definitely more noticeable through headphones/monitors than my computer speakers, but it almost sounds like a slight bit crushing effect. I would think that with all effects levels turned down, there should be no difference between parallel and serial routing.

Thanks!

It sounds the same on the Peak.

As you say, it is *easily* noticeable in an init patch. But it sounds even worse with effects turned on.

zerocrossing · 25th February 2020

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Originally Posted by realtrance ➡️

Characteristic sound tendencies are present in every synth, yes.

I used to think, you have one VA, you have them all, they’re all the same math to model the circuitry, eh? But I disabused myself of that pretty quickly. This was back in the mid-90’s.

And the architecture of a synth often determines rather specifically what sounds are possible, even among the simplest architectures.

And yes, whether analogue or digital, one can find subtle differences in two synths’ output of oscillator waveforms, Alone or when mixed; two saws on a Grandmother sound different than two saws on a Matriarch, no matter how closely you try to match them. Two raw saws on a JD-XA in the digital section sound different from two saws on a V-Synth. Etc.

And all 24db ladder filters, whether Moog circuits or The Legend, have not only their distinct qualities but unique signatures while in motion, particularly.

But what I’m saying is that despite all this, if you have a specific sound you’re aiming for, it’s quite possible, if you know the instruments you’re using, to get to that same sound on multiples of them; in different ways, granted, but “close enough.” You’re not going to get all the Moog bass sounds an analogue Moog synth is capable of on a Kronos, Fantom or Montage... but you can get quite a few Moog bass sounds from each of them. They’ll have subtle differences, of course, may only hit a partial range or aspect of a particular sound compared with the original, but they’ll do fine in a song, live or recorded.

The distinctions we enjoy and care about here are nearly vanishingly invisible once you step out a few inches. They’re there, I’m not arguing otherwise, but they really only matter to us few. Even for a variety of musicians, they can be one and done with all this.

I prove this to myself regularly by comparing patches I’ve designed on one synth with how close I can get to the same sound on another. Depending on the patch of course, it’s not really hard for me at this point. I’m not going to get a Wavestate patch onto Pigments, but in certain instances I am confident I could get sufficiently close, depending on the availability and arrangement of resources on each synth.

Way to go dude. You just single handedly destroyed everything that GearSlutz stands for. Next thing you’re going to tell me is that my wife is right when she responds to my declaring I’m going to buy a new synth with, “don’t you already have a synthesizer?”

...buuuuuuut, you’re totally right. We all know that there’s a ton of overlap in stuff we own. More than we care to admit to ourselves, but OTOH, I did really try and slim things down the Christmas before last, and while I made some progress, I wasn’t able to find the ONE MONOSYNTH TO RULE THEM ALL!

I ended up with... four. Two analogs and two hybrids. I couldn’t help it! I had to keep my ATC. Fattest VCOs this side of the Mississippi. When they sit around the house... those four filters... you’d think it was all covered... but no. No 3rd oscillator, and that’s really important to me when I’m using one oscillator for audio rate shenanigans. So.... Dominion 1.. and well, gotta have the Pro 2, with those crazy duel filters... you’re not going to replicate that with another synth...

And so on. The basics can be done by many synths, it’s true, but the more extreme stuff... how stuff behaves when pushed hard, that’s why I end up with a bunch of synths.

jgoz · 26th February 2020

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Originally Posted by ABuzz223 ➡️

I contacted Novation support yesterday, but haven't heard back yet. Here's a clip of what I'm talking about. This is with an initialized patch, 1 saw oscillator, all effects levels turned down to 0. The first four notes are with parallel FX, the second set of four is with FX in series. Any of the series routings sound exactly the same. It's definitely more noticeable through headphones/monitors than my computer speakers, but it almost sounds like a slight bit crushing effect. I would think that with all effects levels turned down, there should be no difference between parallel and serial routing.

Yeah, I definitely see what you mean and replicated it on my Summit too. I tried to match that sound with parallel routing (for fun?) but couldn’t get it exactly. Sounds a lot like some kind of drive... maybe the result of 3 extra gain stages being chained together? I don’t know enough about signal processing to guess what’s happening, but since FX are in the digital domain, maybe it’s fixable in firmware.

But if the problem has existed since the Peak, I won’t get my hopes up...

SerErris · 26th February 2020

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Originally Posted by ABuzz223 ➡️

I contacted Novation support yesterday, but haven't heard back yet. Here's a clip of what I'm talking about. This is with an initialized patch, 1 saw oscillator, all effects levels turned down to 0. The first four notes are with parallel FX, the second set of four is with FX in series. Any of the series routings sound exactly the same. It's definitely more noticeable through headphones/monitors than my computer speakers, but it almost sounds like a slight bit crushing effect. I would think that with all effects levels turned down, there should be no difference between parallel and serial routing.

Yep, same here... looks also like a bug for me as in 0 position there should be no effect on the patch whatsoever. And there is no effect on it in parallel mode. You can verify this by using the bypass knob.

On Parallel there is no difference, on Sequential there is at 0 settings.

zoetrope · 1st March 2020

I think I figured out the change in sound between parallel and series effect settings and I wondered what you peeps think.

In parallel the front panel level controls are FX levels, let's say controlling the level of the output from each FX processor. So, when they are all at zero it's the same as turning the wet signal down to 0 in the menu. No signal comes from the FX into the final output.

In serial this wouldn't make sense. Let's say you're running chorus -> delay -> reverb. Turning down the output from chorus to 0 would silence the entire chain. So, my guess is the front panel level knobs turn into something like a local wet/dry mix pot for the FX in question. Kinda like why it makes no sense to have a volume control on a guitar pedal, you want to modify the effects contribution in a chain, not the volume of the output from that effect (let's ignore gain on fuzz pedals for a second).

So, when you switch to serial from parallel, having all the level pots turned to 0, you're adding more signal to final output, because all of a sudden there is a boost in gain as the level pots switch functionality and the FX return opens up to whatever it is set in the menu.

Deleted 9f8e583 · 1st March 2020

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoetrope ➡️

I think I figured out the change in sound between parallel and series effect settings and I wondered what you peeps think.

In parallel the front panel level controls are FX levels, let's say controlling the level of the output from each FX processor. So, when they are all at zero it's the same as turning the wet signal down to 0 in the menu. No signal comes from the FX into the final output.

In serial this wouldn't make sense. Let's say you're running chorus -> delay -> reverb. Turning down the output from chorus to 0 would silence the entire chain. So, my guess is the front panel level knobs turn into something like a local wet/dry mix pot for the FX in question. Kinda like why it makes no sense to have a volume control on a guitar pedal, you want to modify the effects contribution in a chain, not the volume of the output from that effect (let's ignore gain on fuzz pedals for a second).

So, when you switch to serial from parallel, having all the level pots turned to 0, you're adding more signal to final output, because all of a sudden there is a boost in gain as the level pots switch functionality and the FX return opens up to whatever it is set in the menu.

That does not explain the obvious phasing you hear in the posted clip.

zoetrope · 1st March 2020

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Originally Posted by wald ➡️

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoetrope ➡️

I think I figured out the change in sound between parallel and series effect settings and I wondered what you peeps think.

In parallel the front panel level controls are FX levels, let's say controlling the level of the output from each FX processor. So, when they are all at zero it's the same as turning the wet signal down to 0 in the menu. No signal comes from the FX into the final output.

In serial this wouldn't make sense. Let's say you're running chorus -> delay -> reverb. Turning down the output from chorus to 0 would silence the entire chain. So, my guess is the front panel level knobs turn into something like a local wet/dry mix pot for the FX in question. Kinda like why it makes no sense to have a volume control on a guitar pedal, you want to modify the effects contribution in a chain, not the volume of the output from that effect (let's ignore gain on fuzz pedals for a second).

So, when you switch to serial from parallel, having all the level pots turned to 0, you're adding more signal to final output, because all of a sudden there is a boost in gain as the level pots switch functionality and the FX return opens up to whatever it is set in the menu.

That does not explain the obvious phasing you hear in the posted clip.

If the effects return introduces a bit of latency it would.

realtrance · 2nd March 2020

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Originally Posted by zerocrossing ➡️

Way to go dude. You just single handedly destroyed everything that GearSlutz stands for. Next thing you’re going to tell me is that my wife is right when she responds to my declaring I’m going to buy a new synth with, “don’t you already have a synthesizer?”

...buuuuuuut, you’re totally right. We all know that there’s a ton of overlap in stuff we own. More than we care to admit to ourselves, but OTOH, I did really try and slim things down the Christmas before last, and while I made some progress, I wasn’t able to find the ONE MONOSYNTH TO RULE THEM ALL!

I ended up with... four. Two analogs and two hybrids. I couldn’t help it! I had to keep my ATC. Fattest VCOs this side of the Mississippi. When they sit around the house... those four filters... you’d think it was all covered... but no. No 3rd oscillator, and that’s really important to me when I’m using one oscillator for audio rate shenanigans. So.... Dominion 1.. and well, gotta have the Pro 2, with those crazy duel filters... you’re not going to replicate that with another synth...

And so on. The basics can be done by many synths, it’s true, but the more extreme stuff... how stuff behaves when pushed hard, that’s why I end up with a bunch of synths.

Well said! It's not about need, to save GS; we all also know we love new instruments, the variety they give us, the fresh approaches, the new things to try, and so on, ad infinitum (to reference my favorite colorful Eurorack patch cords).

No, you need to tell your wife, "I absolutely need this new Pro 3 because it does things and has sonic abilities nothing else I have can touch, even the Pro 2!"

If it's any comfort, I'm in the same boat as you, except I don't even have the justification that I use any of this stuff for work.

Just the justification that it's my main passion, which is all the justification I need!

zerocrossing · 2nd March 2020

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Originally Posted by realtrance ➡️

Well said! It's not about need, to save GS; we all also know we love new instruments, the variety they give us, the fresh approaches, the new things to try, and so on, ad infinitum (to reference my favorite colorful Eurorack patch cords).

No, you need to tell your wife, "I absolutely need this new Pro 3 because it does things and has sonic abilities nothing else I have can touch, even the Pro 2!"

If it's any comfort, I'm in the same boat as you, except I don't even have the justification that I use any of this stuff for work.

Just the justification that it's my main passion, which is all the justification I need!

The amount of money I’ve spent on synths and the amount of money I’ve made from using them is... well, let’s just say that investment doesn’t look like it’s paying off.

It’s my passion as well, but there are other irons on my fire, so for me it’s about a balance of fun and family. It’s hard to justify the cost of a Moog One when your kid’s school is crazy expensive.

SerErris · 2nd March 2020

Update on the Decay issue:

I had more contact on that with Novation and now they understood what the issue is, but could not hear it (see it) on a peak?. Not sure why support referenced a Peak, cause I have a Summit.

Anyhow here are two images I made out of a recording that I shared with Novation:

1. Image of A0D90S0R90 with first decay and then release graph. The drop is clearly visible. The image is Zoomed in on x-axis to clarify the issue. You can also see the overlay I created graphically by duplicating the delay waveform over the release waveform. What you see is that they are very similar and just the tail is missing.

2. Image shows A0D75S25R75 ... here you can see that it also happens with Sustain up, but is not that obvious to hear.

I hope they get the Issue now and test on a Summit ;-)

jgoz · 2nd March 2020

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoetrope ➡️

I think I figured out the change in sound between parallel and series effect settings and I wondered what you peeps think.

In parallel the front panel level controls are FX levels, let's say controlling the level of the output from each FX processor. So, when they are all at zero it's the same as turning the wet signal down to 0 in the menu. No signal comes from the FX into the final output.

In serial this wouldn't make sense. Let's say you're running chorus -> delay -> reverb. Turning down the output from chorus to 0 would silence the entire chain. So, my guess is the front panel level knobs turn into something like a local wet/dry mix pot for the FX in question. Kinda like why it makes no sense to have a volume control on a guitar pedal, you want to modify the effects contribution in a chain, not the volume of the output from that effect (let's ignore gain on fuzz pedals for a second).

So, when you switch to serial from parallel, having all the level pots turned to 0, you're adding more signal to final output, because all of a sudden there is a boost in gain as the level pots switch functionality and the FX return opens up to whatever it is set in the menu.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoetrope ➡️

If the effects return introduces a bit of latency it would.

This explanation makes a lot of sense to me. And it could even explain this:

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Originally Posted by ABuzz223 ➡️

... but it almost sounds like a slight bit crushing effect

If this is actually how it works, what we're hearing is output from a digital gain stage that, when the effect levels are at 0, acts as another overdrive. But since it's digital, it sounds different from the analog overdrives and bears a sonic resemblance to a bitcrusher effect.

At the least, it would be nice if Novation had a little explainer about this in the manual. Whether or not it's a bug or even fixable is up for debate, but explaining the implications of switching to serial would go a long way.

ABuzz223 · 3rd March 2020

Finally got a response from Novation:

"Hi Adam,

Thanks for your reply and for sending over the audio example.

Having listened to the clip you sent over, I believe, as does my colleague, that this behaviour is entirely normal. What you are hearing when the FX is in series (but the levels are turned down and bypass is off), is essentially two separate signals (wet and dry). You are hearing the dry signal as normal AND the wet signal going through the FX circuitry, but without FX being applied as the levels are turned down, and the slight difference in sound is the natural phase of the two combined signals. If you turn the Bypass on when in series mode, you should find that the audio sounds the same as when you're in parallel mode, as you'll just be hearing one signal again.

I hope this makes sense, but please let me know if you have any further questions.

Best regards,

Laurence Clarke // Novation Technical Support"

Looks like you were right, zoetrope. This is apparently the way serial FX are intended to work. An explanation in the manual would have been nice. I get what's happening, but I still don't like it... Unless all individual FX are fully wet in series mode, you are going to get some amount of doubling of the dry signal and consequently distortion. Maybe I'm missing something -- it's been a long day.

SerErris · 3rd March 2020

Actually wouldn't it be enough to set the first in chain to full wet ? As they are serial - there is no dry at the second part anymore. Does not make it better...

SerErris · 3rd March 2020

Another Update on the decay issue:

Support has acknowledged it. That means, yes they can hear it and they can reproduce it. So that step is done. Now the case is with developers to understand what is the root cause and then - hopefully fix it.

zoetrope · 3rd March 2020

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Originally Posted by ABuzz223 ➡️

Looks like you were right, zoetrope. This is apparently the way serial FX are intended to work. An explanation in the manual would have been nice. I get what's happening, but I still don't like it... Unless all individual FX are fully wet in series mode, you are going to get some amount of doubling of the dry signal and consequently distortion. Maybe I'm missing something -- it's been a long day.

I got the same response from them this afternoon

And yes, I also wish it was a little clearer in the manual. The problem is using the terms parallel and serial usually means inserts and sends, which in summits case isn't right. Both ways of chaining effects involve a FX return, so they're both in parallel.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SerErris

Actually wouldn't it be enough to set the first in chain to full wet ? As they are serial - there is no dry at the second part anymore. Does not make it better...

But what if you only want a tickle of the first FX without affecting the gain of the signal into the second? Don't think it'd work.

The only way I can see that they could change it is to actually make serial implementation an insert, or at least let you cut the dry signal in the menu without affecting the wet, which would result in the same outcome. However, it looks like the menu dry levels are applied pre-FX send, because turning it down kills the FX return. Kinda confusing design decision.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SerErris

Another Update on the decay issue:

Support has acknowledged it. That means, yes they can hear it and they can reproduce it. So that step is done. Now the case is with developers to understand what is the root cause and then - hopefully fix it.

Really good to hear this. I just responded to a request for a wav and a wave after their support guy said he couldn't replicate it

SerErris · 3rd March 2020

Yep had the same issue with support - but my diagram and wave was obvious - not to oversee the issue.

That was the reason why I attached the diagram above - were you can demonstrate. The wave could lead to them not understanding not hearing it. The wave clearly shows what you should expect when listening and makes it easier to observe.

As allways if you know what you are looking/listening for, you cannot overhear it anymore.

Other Topic:

Sigabort released MidiSynth Peak 1.1.0. That now support Summit Single patches!

The rest still depends on my work to reengineer multi patches, which should not be to hard to do now, as single patch is pretty much done.

Check out the new release here:
https://sigabort.co/midisynth.html

SerErris · 3rd March 2020

Hi,
as mentioned in this thread before I worked on documenting the Summit Sysex capabilities. It turned out that it is also a NRPN/CC documentation as the available documentation is incomplete and not accurate.

I have now finished the first version with a lot of information. Currently covered information:

1. Sysex Commands accepted by Summit (maybe incomplete - known so far).
2. Single Patch Sysex Structure
3. Complete NRPN/CC documentation
4. Tuning Tables

Still open:
1. Documentation of Settings Sysex
2. Documentation of MultiSysex

You can find the documentation here:
http://bit.ly/SummitSysex

If you want to participate in improving it or report bugs, please let me know via PM. You need to have a google account to share for edit. Otherwise if you find bugs, you may report it here and I will pick up and adapt.

Testing of all NRPNs and CCs is highly appreciated to uncover all bugs I put into it (if any

)

Hope that helps.

BTW: Another bug cam out of that. 3 NRPN controllers are send but ignored on receive.

realtrance · 4th March 2020

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Originally Posted by zerocrossing ➡️

The amount of money I’ve spent on synths and the amount of money I’ve made from using them is... well, let’s just say that investment doesn’t look like it’s paying off.

It’s my passion as well, but there are other irons on my fire, so for me it’s about a balance of fun and family. It’s hard to justify the cost of a Moog One when your kid’s school is crazy expensive.

Yep, been there, did that, the t-shirt wasn't even very good quality.

Life is constantly changing, some things get easier while others get harder. Just maintain the balance that works for you, and yes, don't sell your kids' future to Dave Smith! I'm sure he'd understand that.

petal · 4th March 2020

My Summit makes mysterious changes to parameters by it self. Has anybody else experienced this?

At first I noticed that the screen turned on by it self without me doing anything.
I then started to investigate and I’ve noticed that if I leave my Summit alone for a few hours, then sometimes it has changed at least one parameter by it self!? I know this, because the sound has changed in the loaded patch.

Confirmed affected parameters:
Osc mixer 2 + 3
Filter frequency
Osc 3 Filter Mod
Distortion
And Reverb level

I think that part of what happens is that when a parameter changes by it self, it changes to the value that the knob is in physically.

How to test for this:
1. Make sure all the parameters listed above are set to max although the filter freq should be set to 50%
1b. Plus other parameters that makes an obvious effect on an initialised patch
2. Press Initialise
3. Leave the synth alone and check once in a while if the sound has changed from how a normal initialised sound should sound.
3b. Press the same key several time to notice two oscillators beating against each other = OSC mixer 2 or 3 has changed
4. Patience - I usually only notice this one or two times a day, sometimes with days in between
5. Maybe leave it turned on during the night and check in the morning

My firmware is upgraded to the latest. I have seen the problem on the previous firmware and the newest.
I’ve confirmed the problem both with or without USB-cable inserted on both firmwares.
I don’t use normal midi with my summit, so I havn’t tested this.

I am in contact with Novation Support, but so far they haven’t taken much interest in this particular problem.

I’d love to hear it if anyone else has noticed anything similar to what I have described here.

nodog · 4th March 2020

Argh, I don't like to hear this. My Peak does exactly the same (luckily not very frequent). My solution is to save the sound regulary, especially when I'm going away for some time.

I had high hopes that this problem would be solved by getting a Summit...

petal · 4th March 2020

Thank you for confirming my findings, all though they are quite unpleasant discoveries.

Have you been in contact with Novation support about this problem with your Peak?

nodog · 4th March 2020

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Originally Posted by petal ➡️

Have you been in contact with Novation support about this problem with your Peak?

Nope, this is a known problem and discussed quite a lot in the Peak thread so I'm sure Novation is well aware.

petal · 4th March 2020

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Originally Posted by nodog ➡️

Nope, this is a known problem and discussed quite a lot in the Peak thread so I'm sure Novation is well aware.

OK - good to know, because the guy I've been talking to doesn't seem to recognize what I'm talking about.

Does this bug/problem have a common name that is used to refer to it?

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