Ultimate Keybed Thread(models and manufacturers listed) - Page 15

kaykaynotk · 2nd April 2024

Interesting, I've just been reading into the Dexibell actions.

Seems you can buy off Dexibell: a 76 key dual contact TP/8S controller without aftertouch in the Dexibell S10L

To me that's close but no (aftertouch) cigar. Food for thought though. £2,500 worth of food

A lot of money just to get your hands on a 76 key TP/8S controller with no aftertouch. Obviously you're actually buying a stage keyboard with sound engine, motorised drawbar faders, audio interface and bluetooth. Would be cool if they offered it as a plain MIDI controller else your only other option as far as I can see is picking up something used. Or rolling your own which, frankly, I'm never gonna do am I.

sentokan · 2nd June 2024

Hi guys ! Is the keybed of Virus KC Keyboard the same with Virus Ti1 Keyboard? Thanks!

moede · 23rd June 2024

Anyone know what the key travel distance is on the fatar tp/8o? Or the tp/8s? I know 9s is 10mm and the new tp/8ho is 9mm

FlavioB · 24th June 2024

Quote:

Originally Posted by moede ➡️

Anyone know what the key travel distance is on the fatar tp/8o? Or the tp/8s? I know 9s is 10mm and the new tp/8ho is only 8mm

Did you try asking Fatar directly? I know it's hard to get replies from them as an end customer, but sometimes it works! :-)

sentokan · 24th June 2024

Anyone knows if the keybed on Hydrasynth Deluxe is much better/ higher quality feel than on the original HS keyboard? Thanks!

mwarsell · 7th November 2024

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZMilos ➡️

Found this on german site
https://www.musiker-board.de/threads...thread.435157/

Fatar TP/8s and Yamaha FS action are most regarded in terms of playability and feel. Personally, I've never played Fatar TP/8s but seriously considering buying Roland G800 to be my master midi controller (they are cheap these day)

A lot of models are listed here:

Access

Virus (37): Fatar TP/9S, gewichtet
Virus (61): Fatar TP/8S
Virus Indigo 1 (37): Fatar TP/7BA
Virus Indigo 2 (37): Fatar TP/9S gewichtet, gekapselte Gewichte
Virus Ti 2 Polar/Darkstar (37): Fatar TP/9S gewichtet, gekaspelte Gewichte

Akai

Advance 25/49/61 (25/49/61): Eigendesign, gewichtet, recht sicher von Huaxin gebaut.

Alesis

Fusion 6HD (61): Fatar TP/9S, gewichtet
Fusion 8HD (88): Fatar TP/40
Ion (49): Fatar TP/7BA
QS6(.1) (61): Fatar TP/9S, gewichtet
QS7(.1) (76): Fatar TP/9S, gewichtet
QS8(.1) (88): Fatar TP/20
QS8.2 (88): Fatar TP/30

Arturia

Keylab 88: Fatar TP/100LR

Bowen, John

Solaris (61): Fatar TP8S

Clavia

Nord Electro x (ohne HP): Fatar TP/8O
Nord Electro 3 HP: Fatar TP/100
Nord Electro 4 HP: Fatar TP/100LR

Nordlead 1,2(x),4, A1 (49): Fatar TP/7BA
Nordlead 3 (49): Fatar TP/9S, gewichtet
NordWave (49): Fatar TP/9S, ungewichtet
Nord Modular G2 (37): Fatar TP/9S

Nord Piano 2: Fatar TP/40GH
Nord Stage 2 88: Fatar TP/40 (von Clavia modifiziert)

Dave Smith Instruments

Mopho Keyboard: Fatar TP/9S, stärker gewichtet
Mopho X4: Fatar TP/9S, leichter gewichtet
Poly Evolver Keyboard: Fatar TP/9S, stärker gewichtet
Prophet 6: Fatar TP/9S, gewichtet (gekapselte Gewichte)
Prophet 08: Fatar TP/9S, leichter gewichtet
Prophet 12 (61): Fatar TP/9S, leicht gewichtet
OB-6: Fatar TP/9S, gewichtet (gekapselte Gewichte)

Dexibell

Vivo S3 (73): Fatar TP/100LR, Triple Contact
Vivo P3 (73): Fatar TP/100LR, Triple Contact

Doepfer

LMK4+ (88) (bis Produktion 04/2011): Fatar TP/10MDR
LMK4+ (88) (ab Produktion 04/2011): Fatar TP/40GH
LMK2+ (88) (bis Produktion 04/2011): Fatar TP/10MDR
LMK2+ (88) (ab Produktion 04/2011): Fatar TP/40GH

Edirol (Roland)

PC-160A (32): Fatar TP/7BA
PC-180A (49): Fatar TP/7BA
PC-200(MKII)(49): Fatar TP/7BA
PC-300 (49): Fatar TP/7BA

Elektron

Analog Keys (37): Fatar TP/9S ungewichtet

E-MU

E-Synth (61): Fatar TP/8S
E4k (61): Fatar TP/8S

Ensoniq

ASR-88 (88): Fatar TP/10
Fizmo (61): Fatar TP/9S, gewichtet
KT-76 (76): Fatar TP/10
KT-88 (88): Fatar TP/10
MR-61 (61): Fatar TP/9S, gewichtet
MR-76 (76): Fatar TP/10
SQ-2(plus/32) (76): Fatar TP/9S, Sonderversion mit kleinen, hochkant angebrachten Gewichten
TS-12 (76): Fatar TP/10
ZR-76 (erste Modelle): Fatar TP/10
ZR-76 (neuere Modelle): Fatar TP/10 MDF

ESI

Keycontrol 25 XT (25): Huaxin, Modell unbekannt
Keycontrol 49 XT (25): Huaxin, Modell unbekannt
Keycontrol 61 XT (25): Huaxin, Modell unbekannt

Fatar / Studiologic

Sledge (gelb): Fatar TP/9S, ungewichtet
Sledge "Black Edition": Fatar TP/9S, gewichtet (gekapselte Gewichte)

Acuna (88): Fatar TP/100LR
Numa (88): Fatar TP/400
Numa Compact: Fatar TP/9 Piano
Numa Concert: Fatar TP/40WOOD Ivory Touch
Numa Nano (88): Fatar TP/100LR
Numa Nero (88): Fatar TP/40WOOD
Numa Piano (88): Fatar TP/100
Numa Stage: Fatar TP/100LR

SL990 PRO (88): Fatar TP/40GH
SL990 XP (88): Fatar TP/40GH

VMK-149 Plus (49): Fatar TP/8Piano
VMK-161 Plus (61): Fatar TP/40M
VMK-176 Plus (76): Fatar TP/40M
VMK-188 Plus (88): Fatar TP/40GH
VMK-88 Plus (88): Fatar TP/9Piano

GEM

Equinox (61): Fatar TP/9S, Sonderversion mit kleinen, hochkant angebrachten Gewichten
Equinox Pro (88): Fatar TP/20

Genesys(S)(61): Fatar TP/9S, gewichtet
Genesys Pro(S)(61): Fatar TP/9S, gewichtet

Pro 1/2 (88): Fatar TP/20
Promega 2/3 (88): Fatar TP/30 (leicht angepasst und leichter gewichtet als das Pro 1/2)
RP Basic (88): Fatar TP/20
RP10 (88): Fatar TP/21
RP100 (88): Fatar TP/21
RP120 (88): Fatar TP/21
RP15 (88): Fatar TP/21
RP150 (88): Fatar TP/21
RP2 (88): Fatar TP/10 MDE
RP200 (88):Fatar TP/21
RP3 (88): Fatar TP/10 MDE
RP60 (88): Fatar TP/21
RP70 (88): Fatar TP/21
RP8 (88): Fatar TP/20
RP88 (88): Fatar TP/20

S2, S2 Turbo (61): Fatar TP/8S, alte Version, aber mit mech. Kontakten und polyAT (GEM-Eigenbau)
S3, S3 Turbo (76): Fatar TP/8S, alte Version, aber mit mech. Kontakten und polyAT (GEM-Eigenbau)
SX2 (61): Fatar TP/8S, alte Version, aber mit mech. Kontakten und polyAT (GEM-Eigenbau)
SX3 (76): Fatar TP/8S, alte Version, aber mit mech. Kontakten und polyAT (GEM-Eigenbau)

WK2 (61): Fatar TP/9S
WK3 (61): Fatar TP/9S
WK4 (61): Fatar TP/9S
WK6 (61): Fatar TP/9S
WK8 (61): Fatar TP/9S
WK8 SE/LE (61): Fatar TP/9S

Kawai

K3 (61): Matsu****a ESK-3020
K5000 (S und W): Fatar TP/8S, alte Version

Korg

01/W (61): Yamaha FS-61
01/W Pro (76): Yamaha FS-E76
01/W Pro X (88): Yamaha A88
Delta (49): Matsu****a ESK-316V (nicht dynamisch)
DSS-1 (61): Matsu****a ESK-903
DW-6000 (61): Matsu****a ESK-70
DW-8000 (61): Matsu****a ESK-901
EC150 (88): Fatar TP/30
EC320 (88): Fatar TP/30
i2 (76): Yamaha FS-E76
i3 (61): Yamaha FS-61
i30 (61): Yamaha FS-61
i4 (S) (61): Fatar TP/9S, gewichtet
i5S (61): Fatar TP/7BA
iS35 (61): Fatar TP/9S, ungewichtet
iS40 (61): Fatar TP/9S, ungewichtet
iS50 (61): Fatar TP/7BA
iX300 (61): Fatar TP/9S, ungewichtet
Karma (61): Fatar TP/9S, ungewichtet
Kontrol 49 (49): Fatar TP/9S, ungewichtet
Kronos (73/88): Korg RH3
M1 (61): Yamaha FS-61
M3 (61): Matsu****a SK-61
M3 (73): Matsu****a SK-73
M3 (88): Korg RH3
MS2000 (44): Fatar TP/7BA
N1 (88): Yamaha AE2-88
N264 (76): Fatar TP/9S, ungewichtet
N364 (61): Fatar TP/9S, ungewichtet
OASYS (88): Fatar TP/41 (Custom-Anfertigung), als RH2 bezeichnet
OASYS (76): Yamaha FS-E76
Pa-1x Pro (76): Fatar TP/8SK
PA-2x Pro (76): Fatar TP/8SK
PA-3x Pro (76): Fatar TP/8SK
PA588 (88): Fatar TP/40, bei Korg aber als RH3 bezeichnet
PA800 (61): Fatar TP/9S, ungewichtet
Poly 800 (49): Matsu****a ESK-70
Poly-61 (61): Matsu****a ESK-70
Polysix (61): Matsu****a ESK-70
Prophecy (61) Fatar TP/9S, ungewichtet
Radias (61): Fatar TP/9S, ungewichtet
RK-100 (41): Matsu****a ESK-70
SG Pro X (88): Yamaha AE2-88
SG-1D (88): Yamaha A88
SP100 (88): Fatar TP/10
SP200 (88): Fatar TP/30
SP250 (88): RH3
SP300 (88): Fatar TP/30
SP500 (88): Fatar TP/40, von Korg als RH2 bezeichnet
SV-1: Korg RH3
T1 (88): Yamaha A88
T2 (76): Yamaha FS-76
T3 (61): Yamaha FS-61
TR61 (61): Fatar TP/9S
TR76 (76): Fatar TP/9S
TR88 (88): Fatar TP/41
Trident MKII (61): Matsu****a ESK-30
Trinity (61): Yamaha FS-61
Trinity pro (Extreme) (76): Yamaha FS-E76
Trinity Pro/X (88): Yamaha AE2-88
Triton (Extreme) (61): Yamaha FS-61
Triton LE (61): Fatar TP/9S
Triton LE (76): Fatar TP/9S
Triton pro (Extreme) (76): Yamaha FS-E76
Triton proX (Extreme) (88): Yamaha AE2-88
Wavestation (61): Yamaha FS-61
X2 (76): Fatar TP/9S
X3 (61): Yamaha LC-61
X5(D)(61): Fatar TP/7BA
XC2000 (88): Fatar TP/10
Z1 (61): Yamaha FS-61

Kurzweil

Artis (88): Fatar TP/100LR
Artis SE (88): Fatar TP/100LR
Artis 7 (76): Fatar TP/8 Piano, neue Version (straffere Federung)

Forte 7 (76): Fatar TP/40L
Forte (88): Fatar TP/40L
Forte SE (88): Fatar TP/40L

K2000 (61): Fatar TP/9S, gewichtet
K2500 (76): Fatar TP/8Piano
K2500X (88): Fatar TP/10
K2600 (76): Fatar TP/8Piano
K2600X (88): Fatar TP/10MDF
K2661 (61): Fatar TP/9S, gewichtet

PC1SE (76): Fatar TP/30
PC1x (88): Fatar TP/30
PC2x (88): Fatar TP/10MDF
PC88 (88): Fatar TP/10MD
PC361 (61): Fatar TP/9S, voll gewichtet (gekapselte Gewichte)
PC3 (76): Fatar TP/8Piano
PC3x (88): Fatar TP/40L
PC3A6: Fatar TP/9S, voll gewichtet (gekapselte Gewichte)
PC3A7: Fatar TP/8Piano
PC3A8: Fatar TP/40L
PC3K8 (88): Fatar TP/40L
PC3K7 (76): Fatar TP/8Piano
PC3K6 (61): Fatar TP/9S, voll gewichtet (gekapselte Gewichte)

PC3LE8 (88): Fatar TP/40L
PC3LE7 (76): Fatar TP/8Piano
PC3LE6 (61): Fatar TP/8Piano

SP4-8 (88): Fatar TP/100
SP4-7 (76): Medeli KB76FPU
SP5-8 : LK40GH
SP76 (76): Fatar TP/8Piano
SPS4-8: LK40GH

M-Audio

Axiom 61: Fatar TP9Piano

MFB

Dominion 1 (37): Fatar TP/9S, voll gewichtet (gleiche Version wie in Kurzweil PC361/PC3K6, gekapselte Gewichte)

Modal Electronics (ehemals Modulus)

002 (61): Fatar TP/9S, gewichtet (gekapselte Gewichte)
008 (61): Fatar TP/9S, gewichtet (gekapselte Gewichte)
001 (37): Fatar TP/9S, gewichtet (gekapselte Gewichte)

Moog

Voyager: Fatar TP/9S, gewichtet, (gekapselte Gewichte)
Minimoog Reissue: Fatar TP/9S, gewichtet (gekapselte Gewichte)
Sub 37: Huaxin, Modell unbekannt
Sub Phatty: Huaxin, Modell unbekannt
Memorymoog (61): Matsu****a ESK-70

Novation

Bass Station: Fatar TP/7BA
Bass Station 2: Huaxin, Modell unbekannt
Impulse: V-Tech (Spielzeughersteller), Modell unbekannt
K-Station (25): Fatar TP/7BA
KS-5 (61): Fatar TP/9S, gewichtet (gekapselte Gewichte)
SL Remote: Fatar TP/9S gewichtet (mit Aftertouch)
Supernova (II/pro/proX (61): Fatar TP/8S, alte Version
X-Station (49): Fatar TP/9S, gewichtet

Oberheim

OB-8 (61), altes Modell: Pratt-Read, Modell unbekannt
OB-8 (61), neueres Modell: Matsu****a ESK-70

Quasimidi

Cyber-6 (61): Fatar TP/8S, alte Version
Raven (61): Fatar TP/8S, alte Version
Sirius (49): Fatar TP/7BA

Radikal Technologies

Accelerator: Fatar TP/8SK

Rhodes by Roland

Model 660 (61): Matsu****a SK-761
Model 760 (76): Matsu****a SK-776
VK-1000 (76): Matsu****a SK-876

Roland

A-30 (76): Fatar TP/9 Piano
A-33 (76): Fatar TP/9 Piano
A-37 (76): Fatar TP/9 Piano
A-50 (76): Matsu****a SK-376-DW (polyphoner Aftertouch)
A-70 (76): Fatar TP/8S, alte Version (schwerer und straffer als die Aktuelle)
A-80 (88): Matsu****a SK-688
A-90 (88): Matsu****a PA-4A88-F (J-Wire, Poly AT)
AX-1 (49): Fatar TP/7BA
AX-7 (49): Fatar TP/7BA
Alpha Juno-1 (49): Matsu****a SK-391
Alpha Juno 2 (61): Matsu****a SK-361

D-50 (61): Matsu****a SK-361
D-70 (76): Matsu****a SK-776
DJ-70(MKII)(37): Fatar TP/7BA

E-600 (61): Fatar TP/9S
E-80 (61): Fatar TP/9S
EP-10 (61): Matsu****a SK-162
EP-20 (61): Matsu****a SK-162
EP-30 (61): Matsu****a SK-162
EP-7 (76): Matsu****a SK-7P76
EP-9 (88): Matsu****a SK-8P88

Fantom X6 (61): Matsu****a SK-961
Fantom X7 (76): Matsu****a SK-976

FP4 (88): PHA alpha II
FP7 (88): PHA II
FP7-F (88): PHA III Ivory Feel-S
FP-8 (88): Matsu****a PA-488

G-70 (76): Fatar TP/8S
G-600 (61): Fatar TP/9S
G-800 (76): Fatar TP/8S, alte Version
G-1000 (76): Fatar TP/8S, alte Version

HP-60 (61): Matsu****a SK-361
HP-70 (75): Matsu****a SK-371
HP-126 (88): Fatar TP/10
HP-245 (88): Matsu****a PA-4A88
HP-335 (88): Matsu****a PA-4A88
HP-535 (88): Matsu****a PA-4A88
HP-555G (88): Matsu****a PA-4A88
HP-2000 (88): Matsu****a SK-576
HP-2700 (88): Matsu****a SK-688
HP-3000 (88): Matsu****a SK-588 (mech. Kontakte)
HP-3700 (88): Matsu****a SK-688
HP-4500 (88): Matsu****a SK-588
HP-5500 (88): Matsu****a SK-588
HP-5600 (88): Matsu****a SK-588

JD-800 (61): Matsu****a SK-761
JP-8000 (49): Matsu****a SK-949
Juno-106 (61): Matsu****a SK-361
Juno-6/60 (61): Matsu****a SK-361
Jupiter-4 (49): Matsu****a SK-191
Jupiter-6 (61): Matsu****a SK-361
Jupiter-8 (61): Matsu****a SK-361
JV-1000 (76): Matsu****a SK-876
JV-30 (61): Matsu****a SK-861
JV-35 (61): Matsu****a SK-8L61
JV-50 (61): Matsu****a SK-8L61
JV-80 (61): Matsu****a SK-861
JV-90 (76): Matsu****a SK-876
JX-1 (61): Matsu****a SK-861
JX-10 (76): Matsu****a SK-3xx
JX-305 (61): Matsu****a SK-861
JX-3P (61): Matsu****a SK-361
JX-8P (61): Matsu****a SK-361

KR-575(P)(88): Matsu****a PA-4A88
MKB-200 (61): Matsu****a SK-361

RD-100: Fatar TP/10 MDF
RD-200 (76): Matsu****a SK-476
RD-250s (76): Matsu****a SK-676
RD-300 (88): Matsu****a SK-588
RD-300s (88): Matsu****a SK-688
RD-500 (88): Matsu****a PA-488
RD-600 (88): Matsu****a PA-4A88
RD-700GX (88): PHA II Ivory Feel
RD-700NX (88): PHA III Ivory Feel
RD-1000 (88): Matsu****a PA-388B Holzbalkentastatur
RD-2000: PHA-50 progressive hammer-action keyboard with escapement
PHA-50 Keyboard: Wood and Plastic Hybrid Structure, with Escapement and Ebony/Ivory Feel (88 keys)

RS-101 (61): Matsu****a SK-161
RS-202 (61): Matsu****a SK-161
RS-505 (49): Matsu****a SK-192

S-10 (49): Matsu****a SK-391
S-50 (61): Matsu****a SK-361
SH-09 (32): Matsu****a SK-132
SH-1 (32): Matsu****a SK-132
SH-1000 (37): Matsu****a SK-132
SH-101 (32): Matsu****a SK-331
SH-2 (37): Matsu****a SK-132
SH-2000 (37): Matsu****a SK-132
SH-3a (44): Matsu****a SK-142
SH-5 (44): Matsu****a SK-142
SH-7 (44): Matsu****a SK-142
System-100(M)(37): Matsu****a SK-132
System-700(61): Matsu****a SK-162

U-20 (61): Matsu****a SK-761

V-Synth(GT) (61): Matsu****a SK-961
VA-7 (61): Fatar TP/9S, ungewichtet
VA-76 (76): Fatar TP/8S
VP-330 (49): Matsu****a SK-191

W-30 (61): Matsu****a SK-361
XP-10 (61): Matsu****a SK-961
XP-30 (61): Matsu****a SK-861
XP-50 (61): Matsu****a SK-8L61
XP-60 (61): Matsu****a SK-861
XP-80 (76): Matsu****a SK-876

V-Piano (88): PHA III Ivory Feel

Sequential Circuits (SCI)

MultiTrak (49): Matsu****a ESK-70
Pro One (37): Pratt-Read, J-Wire
Prophet 2000 (61): Matsu****a ESK-3020
Prophet 5/10 (61): Pratt-Read
Prophet 600 (61): Matsu****a ESK-70
Prophet Remote (49): Pratt-Read
Prophet VS (61): Matsu****a ESK-3020
Sixtrak (61): Matsu****a ESK-7113
Split-Eight (61): Matsu****a ESK-70

Solton

SG1 (61): Fatar TP/9S (baugleich GEM Genesys)

Tom Oberheim

Two Voice Pro (37): Fatar TP/9S, Gewichtung noch unbekannt.

Viscount

Physis Piano H1 (88): Fatar TP40 WOOD (mit "Ivory Feel", Triple Contact)
Physis Piano H2: Fatar TP/40 L (modifiziert)
Physis Piano H3 (73): Fatar TP40 WOOD (mit "Ivory Feel", Triple Contact)

Physis K4 (EX)(88): Fatar TP40 L
Physis K4 GW (88): Fatar TP40 WOOD (mit "Ivory Feel", Triple Contact)
Physis K5 (EX)(76): Fatar TP100 LR

"Oberheim" OB-12 (49): Fatar TP/9S, ungewichtet

Waldorf

Blofeld Keyboard: Fatar TP/9S, gewichtet, gekapselte Gewichte
Q Keyboard und Q+ (61): Fatar TP/9S, gewichtet (gekapselte Gewichte)
Wave (61): TP/8S, alte Version
XTk (61): Fatar TP/9S, gewichtet (gekapselte Gewichte)

Zarenbourg: Fatar TP/100
Zarenbourg (76), Modell 2015: Fatar TP/40M

Wersi

Pegasus: Fatar TP8/S

Yamaha

CLP-260 (88): Yamaha AE2-88
CLP-300 (88): Yamaha AE2-88
CLP-350 (88): Yamaha AE2-88
CLP-360 (88): Yamaha AE2-88
CLP-550 (88): Yamaha AE2-88
CLP-560 (88): Yamaha AE2-88
CLP545 (88): Yamaha NWX
CLP525 (88): Yamaha GH3CP4: NW-GH
CP4 (88): Yamaha NW-GH

DGX-230/YPG235 (76): Yamaha 16N-E76
DGX-305 (76): Yamaha 16N-E76-PNW
DGX-505 (88): Yamaha 16N-A88
DGX-620 (88): Yamaha GH
DGX-630 (88): Yamaha GHS
DGX660 (88) Yamaha GHSP45: GHS
DGX-640 (88): Yamaha GHS
DS55 (61): Yamaha C61 K6
DX11 (61): Yamaha C61 K6
DX7 (61): Yamaha FX-20
DX7IID/FD (61): Yamaha FS-C61 (schwerer als die daraus abgeleitete FS-61, die in sehr vielen Geräten verbaut wurde)

EX5 (76): Yamaha FS-E76
EX7 (61): Yamaha LC-61

KX8 (88): Yamaha GHS
MM8 (88): Yamaha GHS
MO6 (61): Yamaha LC C61
MO8 (88): Yamaha BHE
Motif 6 (61): Yamaha FS-C61
Motif 7 (76): Yamaha FS-E76
Motif 8 (88): Yamaha A88 K6
Motif ES 6 (61): Yamaha FS-C61
Motif ES 7 (76): Yamaha FS-E76
Motif ES 8 (88): Yamaha A88 K6
Motif XF8 (88): Yamaha BHE
Motif XS6 (61): Yamaha C61 K6 FSX D
Motif XS7 (76): Yamaha E76 K6 FSX D
Motif XS8 (88): Yamaha A88 K6
MOx8 (88): Yamaha GHS

P105 (88): Yamaha GHS
P115 (88): Yamaha GHS
P150 (88): Yamaha AE2
P155 (88): Yamaha GH
P255 (88): Yamaha GH
P300 (88): Yamaha AE
P35 (88): Yamaha GHS
P500 (88): Yamaha AE
P70(S) (88): Yamaha GH
P85 (88): Yamaha GHS
P95 (88): Yamaha GHS
PF-P100 (88): Yamaha AE
PSR-9000 (61): Yamaha C61 K6

S90ES (88): Yamaha BHE
S90XS (88): Yamaha BHE
SY22 (61): Yamaha LC C61K6
SY35 (61): Yamaha LC C61K6
SY77 (61): Yamaha FS C61
SY85 (61): Yamaha C61K12
SY-99 (76): Yamaha FS-E76

W5 (76): Yamaha FS-E76
W7 (61): Yamaha C61 K6

YDP143 (88): Yamaha GHS
YDP163 (88): Yamaha GH3
YDP181 (88): Yamaha GH
YDP-V240 (88): Yamaha GHS
YPG-625 (88): Yamaha GH
YPG-635/DGX-630 (88): Yamaha GHS

Can this info be 100 % trusted? I'm about to buy a Yamaha Motif 6 or 6ES only that here it is said to have the keybed FS C61 - the same as the SY-77. Is this true?

duplobaustein · 12th November 2024

The German guy, which basically runs that thread on the German Musiker-Board, is an absolute keybed nerd. I'm pretty sure that the data is right. You can also check the original thread, as we constantly add new boards and (sometimes) correct stuff if needed.

https://www.musiker-board.de/threads...thread.435157/

Marzzz · 12th November 2024

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marzzz ➡️

Got the new Native Instruments S88 MK3 a couple of weeks ago, 88-keys TP/100LR Fatar keybed, polyaftertouch. Well built, software/firmware not quite there yet, but the keys are VERY firm, much more so than a real piano. On the fence about keeping it, would love to see an updated Studiologic SL88 Grand with polyAT. Will keep my GEM S3 until it breaks...

Just an update, I ended up returning the S88 MK3 because the piano action was just too heavy and sluggish. In the meantime, I picked up an Arturia Polybrute 12 with its amazing Fulltouch™ keybed (in addition to more standard polyaftertouch). The keyboard is a little bit on the light side, but very fast and responsive and the aftertouch is great to play. Still waiting for any info on Studiologic updating the SL88 Grand with polyAT, that's an instabuy if it happens.

wjeltz · 12th November 2024

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Originally Posted by mwarsell ➡️

Can this info be 100 % trusted? I'm about to buy a Yamaha Motif 6 or 6ES only that here it is said to have the keybed FS C61 - the same as the SY-77. Is this true?

You can check from Syntaur site. The keyboard parts of the listed models are same.

kaykaynotk · 12th November 2024

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Originally Posted by kaykaynotk ➡️

Interesting, I've just been reading into the Dexibell actions.

Seems you can buy off Dexibell: a 76 key dual contact TP/8S controller without aftertouch in the Dexibell S10L

To me that's close but no (aftertouch) cigar. Food for thought though. £2,500 worth of food

A lot of money just to get your hands on a 76 key TP/8S controller with no aftertouch. Obviously you're actually buying a stage keyboard with sound engine, motorised drawbar faders, audio interface and bluetooth. Would be cool if they offered it as a plain MIDI controller else your only other option as far as I can see is picking up something used. Or rolling your own which, frankly, I'm never gonna do am I.

Just come across another 76 key TP/8S board: Johannus One

I can't bring myself to sell my Studiologic VMK-161 Organ Plus TP/8S MIDI controller (a bit of odd mix of waterfall white keys, textured TP/8S black notes, longer fulcrum than a TP/8O but sometimes gets referred to as a TP/8O) even though I prefer the key action on my Fantom7. So really I shouldn't be too excited about either of those TP/8S boards since the Fantom is 76 key plus outputs Hi Resolution velocity data.

Typical never being happy with what's on offer I want a long fulcrum 45 or 57 key MIDI controller

Low E is the best span I think. I constantly change my mind about that though. Not too many out there. Korg Monologue is one but that's only 25 minikeys and too big just to use as a MIDI controller.

daviddever · 12th November 2024

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Originally Posted by mwarsell ➡️

Can this info be 100 % trusted? I'm about to buy a Yamaha Motif 6 or 6ES only that here it is said to have the keybed FS C61 - the same as the SY-77. Is this true?

That sounds about right.

phase0 · 2nd December 2024

Need some help from the keybed nerds on restoring my SY-98 back to an SY-99 which took a tumble in shipping.

I definitely need a new Low E because its snapped & broken but there are a few nearby keys that don't always return & sometimes stay stuck.

Should I just buy only the spring or might as well replace the entire key while I'm in there?

TBH, 76 keys is waaay too many for me, a few keys missing don't even register but I want to do the right thing & return her back full SY-99 status.

These big heavy synths shouldn't really be shipped without a hardshell case.

Cpl. Punishment · 2nd December 2024

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Originally Posted by phase0 ➡️

Should I just buy only the spring or might as well replace the entire key while I'm in there?

Replace the entire key, get springs for any of the key springs not doing their job, check and clean the contact strips...

https://syntaur.com/Part-K27WEB-Styl...-bottom-E-note
https://syntaur.com/Part-KEYSPA-Key-return-flat-spring
https://syntaur.com/Part-KEYSPAX-Key...ings-set-of-10

ardis · 24th December 2024

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Originally Posted by ad_veritatem ➡️

Last year, I bought a NI Komplete Kontrol S49 MkI, the OG with individual LED screens for each of the 8 knobs, for $220 B-stock on Reverb.

It has a TP9S correct? Feels lovely. They dropped software support for it this year though.

HA! I just ordered one for $100- and trying to find out more about it…. I just need a great keyboard to trigger my Kontakt and Spitfire instruments. Hoping it’ll be easy to set up. I have an Alesis QS8 and love the action, but need something I can watch TV with lol!….

Unbelievable that most keyboard controllers don’t talk about the action and are all about the bloody software integration. I thought the NI would have great feel and hope I’m right and it’ll talk to Harrison Mixbus…

Great thread, no arguments and posturing…..just good info…..

Scoox · 24th December 2024

The market is still there for something like the Korg Keystage 49/61 but with a Fatar poly AT keybed, endless encoders and a front panel design that has actually been tested before going into full production

. After 20 years of MIDI controller companies essentially churning out variations of the same old crap, I'd say give it another 10 years.

ardis · 24th December 2024

GC hosed me but got an NI A49 coming. Used with no software so hope the keyboard plays well!

xtrmnt · 25th December 2024

I look through the list extensively, but couldn't determine what keybed the Roland Juno DS-61 has. Does anyone know?

M32 · 26th January 2025

Am i correct in thinking the UDO Super6 has a 49 key Fatar TP/7BA unweighted w/dynamic bubble contacts?

Someone wants to buy just the keybed (i upgraded to the poly AT one) and i'm wondering what would be a fair price to ask

SidneySheldon · 30th January 2025

Guys, need help

Yamaha S03, AN1x, CS1x - do they share the same keybed? If yes-which one?

rockmanrock · 30th January 2025

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Originally Posted by SidneySheldon ➡️

Guys, need help

Yamaha S03, AN1x, CS1x - do they share the same keybed? If yes-which one?

From the data on Syntaur's spares pages:

Individual keys with springs:

K36T - S30, SY22, SY35, W7, AN1X, EX7, MO6, CS6X, Korg 707, Korg X3

K36U - SY55, V50, DX11, DS55, YS100, YS200

Plastic hinged in groups:

K59U - PSR Portatones, S03, CS1X, CS2X, DJX-II

Looter · 30th January 2025

For the Fatar Studiologic SL-880

"over the (many) years of production, the SL 880 Pro have been equipped with various versions of the same basic keyboard, named TP19/20/21/22/30. They were all similar but with various updated details or improvements. Only a photo could allow our Lab to identify the installed version, in case you need it for some specific reason."

Thank you bostonmoores of pianoworld for that info

Looter · 30th January 2025

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Originally Posted by xtrmnt ➡️

I look through the list extensively, but couldn't determine what keybed the Roland Juno DS-61 has. Does anyone know?

The DS61 uses a (not very good) Roland keybed. Same as the A800 Midi controller I think but without aftertouch.

It’s a killer synth except for the keybed.

rockmanrock · 31st January 2025

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Originally Posted by Looter ➡️

The DS61 uses a (not very good) Roland keybed. Same as the A800 Midi controller I think but without aftertouch.

It’s a killer synth except for the keybed.

Anyone know what is in the Juno DS 76?

Syntaur have it as K03U, which is Fatar TP/9S. https://syntaur.com/keyboard.php?key...land_Juno-DS76, but I would like to know for sure!

Looter · 31st January 2025

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Originally Posted by rockmanrock ➡️

Anyone know what is in the Juno DS 76?

Syntaur have it as K03U, which is Fatar TP/9S. https://syntaur.com/keyboard.php?key...land_Juno-DS76, but I would like to know for sure!

I read somewhere else that it’s Fatar, I believe the same as in the Fantom 07.

johnnylarue · 4th March 2025

My fellow nerds, I have acquired a very pretty custom composer desk that was built around a Doepfer PK88 (about 20 years ago.)

Unfortunately that controller was abused and is now completely dead (in addition to having sticky keys and being a general mess.)

I’m hoping to avoid having to butcher the keyboard tray to make a new keybed fit, so I’m trying to source either another TP/10 or to find another similarly sized assembly to throw in there… I’m just not entirely sure how I’m gonna go about doing that as I gather most of these keybeds are wired specifically for the brain of the instrument they were built into.

Can anyone shed some light on this process for me? Note that the design of the desk doesn’t allow for a pitch/mod wheel section (I was gonna use a Touché instead).

SidneySheldon · 3 weeks ago

Matsushita SK-361 - the JP8 and JX-8p keybed

Mine is loose, the keys are wobbling in different directions, especially the black ones. Does anyone know how to adjust this?I found the instructions on the Internet somewhere, but then I lost the link.

SidneySheldon · 5 days ago

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Originally Posted by SidneySheldon ➡️

Matsushita SK-361 - the JP8 and JX-8p keybed

Mine is loose, the keys are wobbling in different directions, especially the black ones. Does anyone know how to adjust this?I found the instructions on the Internet somewhere, but then I lost the link.

anybody?

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