I can't see that function here...

Uhh, no.

If you right click the play button and untick everything in that list, Logic will play and stop from current position.

Sure, but then the feature we are talking about (use a Marquee Tool click to define where to start playback from) won't work either.

What I suggested was a command that would force Logic to start playback from the current position independent of other settings ("Continue" as opposed to "Play"), so Oceantracks can get the behavior he wants... (which he can anyway, by using the Pause command).

Ableton Live does this as standard. Click anywhere in the arrange, or select any region, and play will start there every time. Handy.

Logic does the Region thing if you want it to, but how does PT and Ableton handle the situation where you want to select multiple regions by lassoing them? One doesn't want a click 'anywhere' in Arrange to start playback then.

PT doesn't auto-play when you click on the arrange. It just sets the playhead (unless you don't have the edit and play cursors linked - another amazing feature that only PT seems to have). You can easily lasso multiple regions to select.

Logic is easily configurable to play from current position, from selection start, region start, locator start, marker start, all without clicking in the ruler. I don't know what you mean that you can't do this simple thing. And you can set it to do so without special commands or keys.

Uhh, yes.

It's incredibly deep. Read the f-ing manual, as Tui said.

So far I've seen a lot of "it can't do this" followed by, "you do that like this".

I think there are a lot of bedroom musicians that <DELETED BY MODERATOR> are pissed because they don't know how to use it.

It's not Pro Tools. Don't edit audio in Logic. Beyond that, if you think it can't do something, chances are (again) - RTFM.

Followed by...no that's not what I meant but it will kind of work.

Suggest more roughage in your diet for overall better mood disposition.

TH

+1

Yep

I also got something to add:
Bought an Apple Logic Upgrade last year, from an older dongled version.
My EXS key (dongle) was not recognized and I had to phone "Apple Logic" support.

They wanted me to send in the original "receipt" because they had trashed all the registration information (I´m a Notator / Logic user since 1989).

When I expressed how surprised I was, about their professionality, the support guy was a bit frustrated too and said:
"What makes you think there will be another logic version in the future anyway?"

I was totally shocked and he meant something like:
"If a new logic version was on the way, it would be out already..."

I read "Eat To Live" last month, and have followed it to the 9's since. Been amazing. Tough when I pass by the In N Out on Cahuenga, but well worth it.

You realize you were quoting me quoting someone else, right? I have no idea what you meant, because I wasn't quoting you.

I suggest more reading for overall clarity.

"Suggest more roughage in your diet for overall better mood disposition."



LOL!!

I love this forum. Pure comedy.



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Just get tired of the same old "RTFM" silliness.

The odds that ANYONE has read the entire Logic manual are about the same as me getting attacked by two different species of bears in the same day.

TH

Or maybe even by a bear and a shark on the same day.
Wow. THAT would be a really bad day.

No worries, I get it.

I certainly haven't read it all. But I still refer to it first when I'm trying to figure out how to do something.

Not to be pedantic, but I did read the entire manual for 4.x, 5.x, 7.x and 9.x. That doesn't mean I have 100% comprehension or that I even pored over every detail, but certain sections like the introduction to Logic's objective nature sure do make things a lot clearer when using the app.

But that's still besides the point, the issue isn't "RTFM" to every question, it's that when people say "but App Y does Z why can't Logic be EXACTLY the same?" and 4 people point out various alternatives people still go "well it would still be better if it worked like <ProTools, Live, FruityLoops, Rebirth, Ancient Stone Megaliths etc>" which gets to be very droll after a while.

There are other things in Logic that could stand being fixed/updated (like the GUI when heavy latency is introduced via plugins as per the other thread atm) but making it magically work like App Y/Z without you even bothering to look through the key commands & learn a few more Logic tools shouldn't be a top priority imo.

Yes Logic will continue to locate from that spot while the marquee locate-selection is active. If you get into the habit of always pressing command-shift-A (deselect all) after pressing the spacebar to play that will remove the marquee selection and then you can stop and start wherever you like.

I think there are a few simple ways to figure out what Logic does/how it does things:
• Press Option K and search for relevant words in the key command list.
• Save the manual as a pdf and place it in the dock - pdf's are searchable too...
• Control- or Right-click in the relevant area in Logic to look for relevant contextual menus - there are lots of them.
• Try a few relevant words in the search field in the Help menu. This will often result in an animated arrow pointing at a menu item containing the word you search for.

With those simple tricks, the need to read the manual is drastically reduced.


I think that in many (but not all) cases, things that already can be done in, say, one second or less in Logic shouldn't have high priority compared with the areas which (according to me! :-) ) certainly need improvement... OTOH, since there obviously are loads of people on this forum who assume that Logic can't do X if it isn't implemented exactly the same way as the other DAW they use - this could possibly be addressed by Apple as well. Not by trying to implement all features in all possible ways, but by doing some other simply things which would make it easier to find out how Logic actually does things.

This thread has gone from speculations and "news" to a tutorial.

Is that a bad or a good thing? It wasn't actually even about speculations, but rumors - of which there seem to be none or few. And since homegrown speculations ("I don't see Logic 10 coming anytime soon" or "Logic X will be a dumbed down version of Logic 9" etc) have no value, why spend time on them anyway? :-)

ETA: having said that, I thought this was the Logic 10 - What Do You Want-thread.... it isn't.

Just wait until X comes out, and then watch the 40 page threads of outrage on why it doesn't do Z, or how good v9 was

It's not a case of RTFM btw, but the categorical assertions that it doesn't do X exactly like Y, when it does, if you ask nicely

anyone think there might be a preview at wwdc when they show off mountain lion?
it would make sense that they would wait for mountain lion to hit first that way it would be compadible with the latest mac os x?

anyone think there might be a preview at wwdc when they show off mountain lion?
it would make sense that they would wait for mountain lion to hit first that way it would be compadible with the latest mac os x?

Not a chance. Maybe around that time but not any part of the event. We may hear about iLife 12 during that time period. If that is the case would they spring Logic at the same time as the new Garage Band? Who knows, Apple doesn't make much sense sometimes with their schedule of releases.

i'd hope they give it special status to mention it at WWDC from the neglect the audio community has had with no news from Apple's pro audio product

+1 on all that.

I wouldn't want to be in the Logic devs shoes. Probably great guys and passionate about their program but tied by a stupid company's policy. All this give a bad aura to their otherwise great program/ideas.

I'm sure a lot of them would like to come in here and sometime explain their views on why feature X or Y was implemented in such way, etc. But, that's Apple and they think they're so cool to surprise us with a new product. The general vibe, i think, seems to be quite the contrary now as an effect to this policy of secrets.

KA