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I had this drummer on an R&B gig!!
Old 24th December 2002
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Angry I had this drummer on an R&B gig!!

yep, We had him playing kik , snr and hats, and told him so on the booking, but oh no, he had to bring it all in....
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Old 24th December 2002
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and look at the little room I put him in.....
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Old 24th December 2002
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and because I am the loser that finally realized I could post pix here directly, here is the CR..
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Old 24th December 2002
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Oh, well - at least the drum heads appear to be in good shape...
Old 24th December 2002
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Steve, I don't think you have enough mics up yet (he said, and then ran away).

What are they, Yamaha Maple Custom or (same) Absolutes? It's either that or Pearl (?). I can't tell though and I like trying to guess.
Old 24th December 2002
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Man Steve . . . . there are 4 too many toms and 46 too many cymbals for any R&B gig I ever did. He ever hear of Al Green / Willie Mitchell / Al Jackson?
*smile*

Or is he doing Mahavishnu R&B?
Old 24th December 2002
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Normally I wouldn't blame him for comming prepared, but damn... tracking in a closet like that... Mic placement is a total be-yatch in those situations.
Old 24th December 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by e-cue
Normally I wouldn't blame him for comming prepared, but damn... tracking in a closet like that... Mic placement is a total be-yatch in those situations.
Yea, he is prepared alright . . . . Chinas on an R&B gig? lol
I pretty much hate China cymbals for any damn thing though, unless played seldom and tastefully. (Don't I remember seeing Chinas in the picture?)
Old 24th December 2002
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Yeah, there's a few UK drummers like that.
They have their drum tech set it all up for them.
I overheard one tech saying....."****in' lily pads of cymbals".
Old 24th December 2002
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Question is , did he hit everything at least once in the track?
Old 24th December 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by Knox
[BChinas on an R&B gig? lol
(Don't I remember seeing Chinas in the picture?) [/B]
Stereo china's!tut
But I just noticed the double kick pedals
Oh purleeze!
The season of goodwill forbids me from saying anymore.
Old 24th December 2002
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If he used the Floor tom on only the last bar of the song, it's allowed by the AES standards comitee to shoot him.



Old 24th December 2002
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hey, guys, his kit may be wayyy too big, and he may overplay, but at least his meter sucks!

This was the tracking session from hell with this guy..

as a side note, it is a pearl kit, the kik and snare sounded great after I has him tweak them, and after a few long discussion, he actually attemped to play straight.

Yes there are "stereo chinas", and a double kik pedal ( that was some fun editing to remove all the dk stuff...

Merry friggin Christmas!
Old 24th December 2002
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Man, I don't even have stereo chinas and my kit was overblown until recently. I took out one tom and it made me play about 10% better. If I took out two more, I'd have the rock standard two tom thing happenin. Maybe I'll play 30% better!!

p.s. - oh yeah, I could take the rotos down too, and play 50% better! heh

Less is more. Helps the drummer and everyone else concentrate on the groove.
Old 24th December 2002
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I totaly agree with you.. less is def way more!
Old 24th December 2002
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The less stuff to rattle around when tracking, the better...
Old 24th December 2002
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as a great man once said, abso-****ing-loutly..

The real kicker is that beacuse of the way he hits, I ended up taking some samples of the single hits I had him play before each song and sound replacing a bunch of hits , then tweaking time, then adding kick samples to give it some balls..

At the end of the day , the live performances sound almost as cool as the loops the MD programmed into reason to show the band the arrangements....

I actually tried to get him to remove the toms and some cymbals on the songs where he was definately not going to be playing them, but no dice, he basically said that " I bought this kit because it was what I wanted to play.."

needless to say he is not real high up on the call list for me.
Old 27th December 2002
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Some drummers like to setup everything they have so they're prepared for whatever the song needs. It's common to have it all there so in practice, you can kind of "run laps" around the kit to work on fluidity of movement and stick combinations for certain types of fills or patterns. In practice it's cool, but in application it doesn't usually have a place. Drummers who setup everything often bring that practice mindset with them to the studio. It's another skill to learn how to play in any court. I've been tempted to tell musicians (not just drummers) "You're not here to practice."

Other drummers do it so they have more to hide behind when the rotten produce starts flying at them. heh
Old 27th December 2002
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I have a friend who says " Doctors practice at work, and there is no way you are getting into med school..."
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