Originally Posted by tomylee ➡️

well I sense a dongle policy as a business model here, today I decided to try dante virutal soundcard to connect two macs just to find out none of them can act as a clock leader Oo well, looks like we need something else, path1: buy hardware (dongle), path2: get dante via software, it can act as a clock. ok, did path2 (all within trial periods) and it wants me to stop using DVS, well, ok did that, but then, oh no: no audio. new virtual audio driver created, complicated mess. is this designed to turn off new customers or just a hidden dongle policy of them? can I connect two macs via ethernet without buying hardware, or not? seems like a simple question nobody has either asked or answered yet..

anyways I am ultimately trying to get audio from one studio to another, as only one has a nice heavy 88key midi keyboard, which I would like to send midi to studio 1 to play synthesizers there with the timing and feel of the other. I think I will need to buy cheap two channel interfaces to add to each workspace to do low latency audio over ethernet transmission on them to avoid the 2x4ms DVS latencies on each system, which might end up being too much for nice timing if you add in the latencies of each daw as well. but I sure would have liked to try first..

Originally Posted by chelgrian ➡️

Dante VIA isn’t a virtual sound card and is meant to be used to route non Dante hardware on to a Dante network.

Originally Posted by tomylee ➡️

well I sense a dongle policy as a business model here, today I decided to try dante virutal soundcard to connect two macs just to find out none of them can act as a clock leader Oo well, looks like we need something else, path1: buy hardware (dongle), path2: get dante via software, it can act as a clock. ok, did path2 (all within trial periods) and it wants me to stop using DVS, well, ok did that, but then, oh no: no audio. new virtual audio driver created, complicated mess. is this designed to turn off new customers or just a hidden dongle policy of them? can I connect two macs via ethernet without buying hardware, or not? seems like a simple question nobody has either asked or answered yet..

anyways I am ultimately trying to get audio from one studio to another, as only one has a nice heavy 88key midi keyboard, which I would like to send midi to studio 1 to play synthesizers there with the timing and feel of the other. I think I will need to buy cheap two channel interfaces to add to each workspace to do low latency audio over ethernet transmission on them to avoid the 2x4ms DVS latencies on each system, which might end up being too much for nice timing if you add in the latencies of each daw as well. but I sure would have liked to try first..

Originally Posted by gavinmartin ➡️

I have done this using a Focusrite PCIeR card on one machine and then using DVS on the other, although you'd always have to go through an ethernet switch.

Hopefully that helps.

Originally Posted by David Rick ➡️

No ethernet switch is needed for simple connections. I've built simple recording Dante systems using point-to-point or daisy-chained connections to or through my DAD AX Center frame. I tend to use static IP addresses, but you don't have to. If there's no DHCP server, your nodes are going to self-assign 169.254 0:16 addresses. You may have some issues with Windows though: it doesn't really like unidentified networks and sets them to "public"

Originally Posted by emenelton ➡️

The poster tomylee wanting to play a vst from a room and two computers away is a non-standard Dante use. It could succeed but needs competent engineering and real Dante hardware at both computers.

Originally Posted by kludgeaudio ➡️

That is a perfectly standard Dante use and typical of what you might see on a corporate gig. But it DOES need competent engineering and real Dante hardware on at least one computer.
--scott

Originally Posted by kludgeaudio ➡️

That is a perfectly standard Dante use and typical of what you might see on a corporate gig. But it DOES need competent engineering and real Dante hardware on at least one computer.
--scott

Originally Posted by emenelton ➡️

My impression of Tomy lee’s use was he wanted to plug a midi controller into a computer and send its midi data out with Dante through to a second computer’s Dante interface to play a vst instrument that second computer was hosting.

Originally Posted by David Rick ➡️

OK, but presumably analog audio has to exit somewhere. The Radial DAN-RX is a Dante output node with two XLR-M outputs and a headphone amp. It's capable of being the clock master for your Dante network if there isn't a better one, and it has a LED to indicate when it's doing that.

Originally Posted by emenelton ➡️

My impression of Tomy lee’s use was he wanted to plug a midi controller into a computer and send its midi data out with Dante through to a second computer’s Dante interface to play a vst instrument that second computer was hosting.

Originally Posted by kludgeaudio ➡️

MIDI data? Hmm... can you route that through Dante?

Originally Posted by tourtelot ➡️

Doesn't appear so at this time.

D.

Originally Posted by Aoipman ➡️

I wonder if DVS pro can compete with the hardware solutions?

Originally Posted by David Rick ➡️

Nope. You can have twice as many channels, but it still has minimum latency of 4 ms; I can get 1/4 of that on hardware.

Originally Posted by Aoipman ➡️

I wonder if DVS pro can compete with the hardware solutions?

https://www.audinate.com/press/audin...-applications/

Originally Posted by philper ➡️

So what's the advantage of DVS Pro? They say it can be the clock leader itself--is that important? Advisable? Is it any more stable or smart than vanilla DVS? Would there be an advnateg in using it for the sort of big show being discussed here?

Originally Posted by philper ➡️

So what's the advantage of DVS Pro? They say it can be the clock leader itself--is that important? Advisable? Is it any more stable or smart than vanilla DVS? Would there be an advnateg in using it for the sort of big show being discussed here?

Originally Posted by David Rick ➡️

No way do you want your computer to be the clock leader! Reserve that status for the best, most stable clock in your system, usually a converter set. (Dante will normally make a sensible choice on its own, but you can override it.)