Few things here to chime in..

If you're aiming for pretty loud, I'd use the compressor with slowish attack and fastish release with about 1db of compression, and then crank the dynamic perception.. You'll get the most punch this way.. Keep ITP at 0.3.

If you use the compressor, you can use the FG Level gain as makeup and it will not hit the ITP algorithm until the peaks try to go past zero, which in a mix situation, they shouldn't. But I don't see why an automakeup gain setting can't be implemented in a future update, so count that one in.

The upcoming FG-X update includes Fabrice's new ITP algorithm enhancements which allow most any mix to pass through without the possibility of crackling.. Its done, but is getting put through the paces for compatibility.

That's how I hear it too.

What is with these little weasels with 5 posts, and few with a couple more, following Slate around to degrade him and his products?

I wonder about the health of these peoples minds. Why are these freaks even allowed here?

So let me get this straight...when I want to find out what normal people think about a product I have to weed through a sea of infants who should be on medication? What a bunch of losers

Get this man a Xanax!

I agree with Absolute that there have been some pointless and disrespectful posts here, and I hope the remainder of this thread can include productive discussion.

The FG Level Gain does NOT hit the ITP algorithm until you try to hit digital zero. So to repeat what Steven said earlier, it can be used as makeup gain for the FG-Comp with no problems unless you overdo the makeup gain.

Thanks Steven and Alex for clarifying that FG Level does absolutely no processing under 0 db.

To be fair I think the disrespect has cut both ways at times. It's a shame you're using the official Slate press desk to lend your support to that kind of vitriol.

You've got to be kidding me. Steven, Alex, and Fabrice have been extremely respectful despite the mysterious newcomer gearslutz members who have been trolling in this thread. Telling someone to "get on xanax" like you did above isn't exactly what I consider respectful btw.

Still loving the FG-X, and looking forward to its future.

This exactly how the FG-Comp is intended to be used.

As Steven said, some settings are useful to glue the mix and at the same time are useful to remove 1 or 2 excessive dBs in very loud moments of the song.

Another use is also with very slow attack and release settings. The FG-Comp acts then as a leveler, so it reacts gently to loudness changes in the case of a mix with an important volume range. Please note that in this mode, the FG-Comp reacts in an intelligent way to very sudden loudness changes, which removes the usual effect of "attack overload" which can be experienced with another compressor with slow timing settings.

I also like to use the FG-Comp with fast attack and release settings with very punchy mixes, but in this case I usually push the FG-Level gain first to get the desired average loudness, and then lower the FG-Comp threshold so it acts very dynamically only when it's needed.

In these scenarios you don't really need a compressor input gain, that's why we did not featured it, but as Steven said, we will probably release an update with an auto make up gain option.

We are very excited about the upcoming update because it fixes all the issues that has been reported here, and for that we have to say thank you all!


Fabrice

Can you give me one example of where anyone from the Slate team as been disrespectful?

I will just say, I have been increasingly impressed with all aspects of the 'Slate Digital Team' responses and feedback here, either in the service of illuminating present design decisions and envisioned usage, OR directly going back into the next revision of the product and frankly, if pride and enthusiasm is 'hype' in this case...please 'hype' away (until the fat lady crackles that is) ;-)

A most happy owner of this 'next gen' tool and can't wait to see what this particular team and synergy of talents comes up with next :D

I very much appreciate the Slate team feedback. Quite unusual these days and should be a model for others to follow. Back to the makeup gain on the comp section I understand what you are saying however I would still feel better having it independant of the level section. Glad to hear it is being considered for a future release. Great work guys!

It's a bit in the past so I don't want to dwell. I think that generally I've been very impressed with the way the Slate team has been conducting the conversation lately.

But if you wanna read back to the part where Slate said the engineers created the distortion, not the plugin, that it's "a pro tool" and if youre having any problems thats because your mix isn't good enough for it...

There's also the argument that the end result is identical to the input, there's no distortion, only "saturation curves".

That might put some of people's comments in perspective. Slate was hovering somewhere between saying things that were plainly untrue, accusing me and other critics of incompetence in mixing, and changing words to mean whatever he wants... Though honestly, truly, I'm totally happy with the way they've responded since (backing up absolute's mean-spirited tirade being the one exception). I mean... they're updating the algorithm to address complaints about the crackle, and to me that speaks a lot louder than anything they could write here. But some people are still ticked I guess?

A lot of developers get nothing but love here. Looking at you Dave of DMG Audio, or Andy from Cytomic. I don't think the GS community just arbitrarily decides to hate on someone for fashion. You think people are going after Slate because they hate their success or something?

I think people got the sense that someone was trying to pull one over, and it's completely within the bounds to speak up in that situation. In fact, maybe there would be no algorithm update if no one had said anything!

Yes, it's so obvious some saddos are making a lame sabotage attempt - really they should be pitied, but it's just so damn annoying and frustrating... Where there is great innovation this kind of behaviour is to be expected I suppose.

As Loopy C says, it's done the team behind this plugin a huge favour actually as it has shown them to be true gentlemen by how they react (or don't). I've read other designers/developers go right off the handle for much less.

IMO even if it is hype/enthusiasm/whatever you want to call it - at least it's justified because the product is great and lives up to the hype... at least the Slate team's hype machine is all above board and coming directly from them... This seems alot more honest and scrupulous than what many other product developers/designers do on here: with 5+ strong teams of supposedly independant forum users on a large scale undercover PR mission for products that really are nothing all that special and clearly are primarily a commercial enterprise rather than a passionate, positive and genuine contribution to audio technology.

There is no doubt in my mind after demoing the first incarnation of this plugin (which I would describe as having a wide margin for error rather than being completely flawed ) that it is a landmark piece of digital processing technology (along with Paul Frindles Dynamic Spectrum Mapper).

Ok, have not followed this thread for some time now...
...there was talk about a ppc version.
Did I miss it? Or still in the pipeline?

My intent was not to be disrespectful.
Just because I have 5 posts doesn't make my opinion irrelevant. I am a 20 year plus professional songwriter/producer and 13 year plus protools user. I own SSD as well as the new FG-X. (as well as most of their competition's similar pluggins) They are very useful, innovative tools.

My frustration is and continues to be the incessant delays and mis-information regarding release dates and in this particular case, the propagation of both of the above regarding a "fix" to FG-x.

I have been using FG-X since the release with no problems whatsoever in PT 8.04HD. I just feel bad for the users in this forum who continue to have problems and frustration with the situation.

This is not a new problem and isn't native to this product alone. It's an MO.

Brad Crisler
Nasvhille

At least you're no longer posting anonymously. There's nothing shadier than people that won't stand behind their credentials when making claims/sharing their opinions.

Daniel-
I have NEVER posted to this or any other forum anonymously. Anything I have posted here is under my username Tennbrad.

best,
b

Update today?

Thread's starting to have a kids-in-the-back-seat-"Are-we-there-yet?" tone.

Which is not the worst tone to have, I suppose...

- c

I'm outta Xanax.

After noticing some of your recent posts.....


.....I would say that's an understatement.....heh

"Are-we-there-yet?"

They do look a little manic when you line them all up
like that. Switching to Klonopin.

Reading this thread is like a roller coaster ride. Somtimes exhilarating, sometimes nauseating...

Last couple of post were pretty funny....

Oooo... is that a new plugin!?

Yes. It makes things warmer.

update today?

Its done, now we're updating the sight with a new user download system.. as soon as thats done, game on. thumbsup

PPC Support? Please...

Yes, this new update has PPC support!