Actually, it wasn't really our fault. There was a cyber attack on the largest Italian ISP and one of the largest in Europe. As a result, we were also impacted. The good news is that we're migrating the remaining components to the cloud and should complete the process this week. Once we're fully on the cloud, DOS attacks become practically negligible, except in cases where they are specifically targeted at us.

yup! same here. takes sometimes a full minute to load. other threads load almost instantaneously

This specific Thread is THE slowest one I visit.

I visit 3 other threads before this one loads.

I'm on a FIOS 1-Giga-Hz service.

We can always start a new thread tittled "Acustica audio acqua plugins general discussion v2".

cleared cache - no difference

The thread is heavy, but worth the CPU hit. I usually just throw it in an Audiogridder.

This thread is extremely slow for me as well. It usually takes about 30 seconds to 1 minute to load, and finalize posted reply's. I've tested on three different browsers on my Macbook Pro, one of which is a fresh install. Eastern Canada, if that proves insightful.

I love that there's some attention to this. I thought it was just me for a while.

So. I replaced the computer in one of my studios with a Mac Studio M1 Ultra. I carefully installed what I needed (only VST3). I did a lot of comparison tests (or more precisely, I compared all the purchased AA plugins face to face) on the computer Mac mini i7/32RAM/1ssd with the new Mac Studio M1 Ultra.
I can say with 100% accuracy only a few of the data obtained as a result - all plugins from AA (especially their newest ones for 23/24 year), as well as CRIMSON1.5 - consume from 5% to 11% less on the M1 Ultra, in contrast from i7 Mac mini 2020. Confident and Stable (the values are different for different plugins). I don’t know what this is connected with - but this is a good result.
For example, ASH ULTRA - consumes 6% less (at any OSx/OSxAA values).
It’s strange that ASH Ultra Flat consumes 2% more, unlike ASH Ultra. (consistently 2% more on any OS) - but it’s still better, because Flat consumes 4% less on M1 Ultra than on Mac mini i7.
And only “Magic Flow” (as always) - which was NOT developed by AA, showed itself to be the Worst of all!
Yes - it consumes 1.5-2% less on the M1 Ultra - But..
All the "bugs" remain - as they were before. They were not fixed by DMI.
Regarding stability, working with “Magic Flow” - there were no crashes in my DAW during Testing. On a real project, I have not yet used it on the M1 Ultra (I did not like it in general, due to the fact that it has an EQ Curve, which we cannot Disable).

In any case, I was pleased that the plugins from AA (which I purchased, and I don’t have many of them, but only those needed for my work) showed the best results in performance with the M1 Ultra chip.

I understand now that the next step I will have to switch to daw REAPER.

PS. I forgot to add an opinion about GOLD5. To be honest, I DO NOT understand what kind of crazy consumption of my M1 is this)))
As soon as I turn on OS2x, I instantly get from 4% to 24%. And this is only one plugin GOLD5)))
Of course, I don’t know who else has more powerful computers - but I know for sure that even if the computer is even more powerful, it will not reduce the load by 20%))
This is the only plugin (in my collection) that takes up 24% of the processor on OS2x.

How do you use it then (namely, a single block GOLD5/GOLD5ZL)? Only if WITHOUT enabling OS?)). Because I CANNOT imagine a large Mix using this plugin with OS2x on at least 5 channels. (What if I need 20-30 bands?). This is simply impossible.
Of course, I have nothing against it (just thoughts out loud).
By the way, GOLD5 literally destroyed my Mac miin i7))

This thread is slow loading for me as well. There are other long threads on GS that load slowly; I have always assumed the issue has been on their server end.

+1.

The enhancements and improvements you see are not at all random but result from deliberate development. When comparing Intel and ARM machines, you're not just seeing C++ code recompiled on ARM with adjustments for deprecated Apple structures. Instead, we've heavily optimized specifically for ARM architecture, especially considering Apple's unique version of ARM, which behaves differently. We've also made specific optimizations for Intel, including AVX2 and AVX512, along with various SSE versions. This leads to 5-6 different optimization combinations executed by runtime dispatchers.

A significant difference we observed is in the FFT library implementation. On Intel, the Intel Performance Library outperforms, while on Mac, we support various optimized libraries from different developers, leading to ARM-specific optimizations. Apple's own FFT layer, likely more aggressively optimized, may explain performance differences.

Our products utilize dispatchers that choose the best execution method based on the hardware, continuously updating optimizations with new processor releases. This is why you're noticing performance differences and improvements. The most significant improvements will be seen with Hyper plugins, which employ even more advanced optimization techniques.

all I want to do is buy Lace fam, what's the dealio peeps? Discount is wearing out don't take it to the limit(er)

#ticketsubmitted

Thanks for the detailed explanation and answer.
I understood that there was a lot of your work behind reducing the consumption of my M1 ULTRA - but only you can explain it correctly here (I can’t do it better than you).
Thanks for these optimization improvements for M1 (and probably M2/M3). It increases the headroom of my computer for working with plugins from other companies in complex sessions.

Gold5 consumes incredibly much on OS2x - so...

But Could you improve your consumption for the ASH ULTRA FLAT? For some reason it consumes Exactly 2% more than the ASH ULTRA version. I can certainly use the ASH ULTRA version - but the FLAT version is easier on my eyes. It doesn't distract me or confuse me as much.

Thanks again.

Slow here too - pretty remarkable difference compared to all other threads I visit regularly.
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When I've needed to try to "win" the loudness wars, I've been relying on Cradle's God Particle.

But I think Lace + Snow and/or Lace + Salt Ultra has it beat (especially soundwise). Thanks Acustica... liking this one. Little harder (for me) to dial in, but happier with the end result.

(and Lace doesn't nag me to re-authenticate like Cradle does. Small complaint, but it adds up over time.)

Hi
N4 plugin instances (Bronze U76 9K CONSOLE) saved in Bitwig and Ableton projects open automatically when a saved project is reopened and have to be individually closed ... is this an M2 Sonoma problem?
thanks

I have that happen with N4 Taipei and Verona and have posted it on the beta forum. My issue is the plugins will open partially off-screen and need to be manually closed from the rack. Waiting for AA fix I'm assuming.

Check over in the main Nebula thread.

Nebula must have

yes, I have this built in to my AXR4 interface on the first 4 pre's.

It's nice having it in hardware



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For experts in Acustica plugins:

1. In the ASH MK3 plugin, what would the +3, +6 and +6 Extended options be?

2. I was interested in the Gold5 plugin and would like to simulate a Neve 1073 (MIC Pre + EQ). What would be the most authentic, hardware-like way to do this? Would you use the Gold5 format (channel Strip) or Gold5EQ? In the EQ option, I couldn't quite understand which would be the correct preamp, would it be the MIC option (which of the 12?) or Bus?

I don't know if my question is clear.

Thank you anyway!

The curve named "extended" is set for a soft behavior with the normal intervention range of the clipping wheel, which is from -5dB to +5dB.

The +3, +6, and +6 Extended options refer to the amount of saturation or clipping applied to the audio signal.

I retract my earlier "loads fast" comment -- this thread has been nothing but quirks/weird loading the whole week.

They are working on it and it was loading faster today. Hyperizeing it!

Hello thank you so much! What about Gold5?

Regarding Gold you can either use the channel strip or the EQ. If you want that special 1073 flavor, go for the 3102 or H073 EQ models.
About the preamps, the Bus 73 or if you have Lime, you can try the Preamp F.

@ zaphod ...

Please consider modeling the Crane Song HEDD Quantum, as a future free product or as part of a suite of HEDD units.

Listen to the tones and mojo this unit imparts...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm-WQnjwr6I&t=1s

I would love to see that!

The Quantum is absolutely superb. This would be a perfect addition to an Acustica suite of DAC, ADC's and Summing Mixers that I've been requesting. I'd love to see that Dangerous 2 BUS+ and HEDD Quantum bundled in one suite, with perhaps another heavy hitter.

Luca has the 2-BUS+ and the Convert-8 already, so maybe this could be another Studio DMI collaboration.

Ash, Lace, and a DAC ADC / Summing suite would be the pico top for mastering in the box. Unstoppable and unmatched.

Please make it happen guys!

+1 For this!