Probably sE V7's, especially on a cost basis.

... and I know someone that uses them, so I could borrow one to see how it compares .

I had one for a while and it got some use.

I find open mic events are a great way to figure out a new vocal mic, so took it to the one I ran the sound for regularly.

As I remember it, GBF was fine, but it was "coloured" in the same way as an SM58, N/D767a, etc. I find if a voice has a peak/rasp/whistle/something that coincides with a peak in the mic, it can end up sounding rough and you have to fight with EQ to get it sounding okay again.
IMO, the e935 is a bit smoother/flatter, which makes it a better all-round choice.


IME, you can use cheaper mics, but you have to get selective over which vocal "fits" which mic. As a live sound engineer working around 100 shows a year, I can't afford to spend the time in soundcheck swapping out vocal mics - I need something that'll work first-time.

All that said, in its price bracket, the V7 is a decent choice.
It's just that as you move up the price scale, there are options there which are IMO more useful.


Chris

That Lewitt 500DM is a great choice though.
Why settle for (a bit) less?
Rich/full sound
Chris
P.S. Had a 767a for years.
Unfortunately got stolen.

I still have 4 . Wish they still made them.

Think I might have a couple of 767s around somewhere. If I can dig them out and they're looking/working fine, would either of you two like any?

Chris

I'm sorry I don't have a small airport to bring them to. Did Trump do this? Are some of the bodies intact? If there's any indents or decapitation, they'll be worth less on the black I mean used market.

Such a nice offer!
But I’m cool with what I have
Chris

PM me. Depending on the condition I might be interested!

Thanks.

Of Chris?

Your best joke yet.




Got a busy patch coming up, but will see about those 767s when I get a minute.


Chris

I miss my 767's dearly but sadly I go through vocal mics about every 7 years and 767's only lasted maybe 3. I suspect it's the wicked humidity variations here. I'm running low on OM5's now, will probably stock V7's moving forward due to cost.

I am not all that impressed with the V7. If you liked the 767, consider trying the RE520. It is not as tight as the N/D 967 was but it's a good mike. Also the classic Beyer M88.
--scott

Yes - the Lewitt MTP 550 DM is an excellent on-stage vocal mic, particularly for loud bands and feedback prone situations. Excellent sounding mic, this really is a sleeper of a mic at about the same cost as an SM58.

Might need to get one for comparison .

Or two

People are so used to 58's that the systems are often (even unintentionally) set up for them, eq'd in a way that minimizes feedback for them. People are used to behving in a way that helps the 58 avoid feedback.

Around here the noobs insist on Beta 58s instead and its feedback all night

My typical EQ's for OM5's are safe for SM58's, just add 3dB more gain. Picks up more bleed and less GBF but at my nominal levels I'm comfortable hot swapping unexpectedly at changeover.

I can live with an SM58 (but prefer many other mics if I can get them), but it doesn't seem like there is any eq'ing that can make me like a Beta 58.

It sure is a strange beast.

Last time I measured a Beta-58, there was a very narrow 8.8kHz spike in the HF response, which gives it that razor edge to sibilance.

Even with that EQ'd out, though, the presence boost felt like it was an odd shape, and the LF sounded like cardboard.

A useful amount of GBF, though, and the grille is difficult to dent.


With many of the coloured dynamic mics that get discussed, I can often see how a demo via headphones might give a favourable impression to someone doing back-to-back comparisons.
More treble can be perceived as "detailed", a narrow spike could be perceived as "capturing sounds that other mics don't", etc etc etc. The really good mics don't stand out in those tests.

Put it through a decent PA system or wedge monitor and turn it up a bit, and the excess HF (smooth or with a narrow spike) isn't a comfortable listening experience.


Chris

Taking the 550 DM out tonight, for Practice Recording.

I’ll try to post a take, if it’s decent enough.
Fuller sounding than the D770.
Chris

That can be true!

But its about not liking feedback

Flood captured some nice Bono vocals on that Beta.
He thought he got it “Expensive” sounding.
But…

As always YMMV.
Chris