My aftertouch on my Moog Voyager has problems. Voyagers are known for that.
The aftertouch on my OBX8 and Sequential PRO 3 work fine . The price Moog charges for repair per hour is very expensive. My voyager also drifts. I read they used the wrong spec caps on some voyagers which causes it to drift.

Interesting comment about the Model D here in this video from 1984 that made me laugh: https://www.facebook.com/share/v/YjT...rtTimeMs=58000

I had an early early Voyager Performer edition (pre-backlighting, pre-memory expansion, etc.) and had to send it back to the factory for AT modification to bring it to spec. Matter of fact, it went back several times because Moog kept upgrading the hardware; early adopters (including Signature Editions) paid a penalty.

That’s unfortunate sorry to hear that.Moog makes great synths but has problems

i love that the D was only 15 years old in that vid. that's like a Prophet 08 right now.

i see some additions around the mixer section. does anyone know what those mods were & the added screen?

Was more the comment about no one wanting to buy old tech like that any more that got me.

Yeah, I was wondering about those modifications too.

Seems like the mod was for tuning. They had expressed issues with tuning and it looks like that was their adjustment.

Loved that too
“You can’t buy them now, technology’s moved on far too much to sell people things like this anymore”

Yeah, and here we are 40 years later and talk about this instrument as near divine - which is in fact sort of true

I’ve only seen two Minimoog model Ds ever. Once when I was 16 and once when my friend had one many years ago.

Glad I got the Moog Voyager when I did.
Wouldn’t be able to afford one now let alone the Minimoog Model D reissue for 5 K.

Is the aftertouch issue fixed?

Can you tell by serial number ?

Yes, everything after number 1130 is fine.

Is there any significant difference between the 2016 reissue and the 2022 reissue (other than the color of the wood)?

Also just curious if anyone owns both the model and the prophet 5/10 rev4.

I rented the model d for a little while and played it alongside my prophet and I definitely think there is a lot of mojo that the model d has compared to using the prophet as a monosynth but at the same there are plenty of great Lead and bass sounds on the prophet that give the minimoog a run for its money and objectively there are certain things the prophet can do that the minimoog can't like hard sync, multi voices in unison etc.

Part of me really does feel like nothing can quite satisfy that particular niche like the real minimoog (I did also on a Poly d for awhile) but I also sometimes feel like the prophet can get close enough in many cases and that I may end up regretting spending so much for what is only a subtle difference.

I can’t speak to the difference between the 2016 and 2022 Minis, but I do have a 2016 and P10 r4. I’ve also owned OG Minis and P5s in the past.

Over the years, I’ve tried to dial my favourite Mini sounds into the Prophet.

It’s always ballpark, but never the same.

They’re just different beasts. If THAT Mini sound matters to you, the Prophet won’t do it. Whether it’s worth another 4 grand, only you can know…

I suppose it might also be more cost effective to get a Trigon 6 or wait for the new Moog Muse (depending on its eventual price), but while I'm sure those would also be in the ballpark, and probably at least somewhat of a closer ballpark than the Prophet, they're also probably not going to be 100% and as I've said several times in other threads quoting Wilson Pickett, sometimes 99 and one half won't do.

Prophet = lead/backing synth
Moog = bass synth

The Minimoog is 5 K. The prophet 5 rev 4 now is 3K. The P5 is a better deal. Both great synths although a monophonic synth is different than a polyphonic synth in regards to its architectural design and application. The Minimoog is great as a lead synth as well.

I had a 2016 reissue and have played the newer reissue many times. It’s pretty much the same synth. I thought the newer one sounded better, but i am attributing that to the fact the model d always sounds better out of tune, and i would always tune mine properly. Either way, as has been said. Nothing sounds like the real deal. I love the new prophet 10, and it sounds thick and rich, but not fart fatness the model can pull off.

Quoting myself from a few pages ago...

I've use both synths for all of the above. The P10 for bass for example is a bit smaller sounding, but has it's own beautiful saturation. I've had folks ask about the bass sound when I use either of them, as they both sound pretty amazing in slightly different ways.

They sound different enough that I enjoy the luxury of having both. One day if I downsize, I'll get by with the P10 only, and still wish I had the mini for certain sounds. The P10 only wins out because it's a poly, and can be used more broadly, but if I ever part with the 2016 Mini I will be sad certainly

As a P10 owner that has been back-and-forth on getting a mini, that is very useful feedback to hear. I think you’ve saved me 5k.

Cheers

Gotta say - as someone who also owns both, it's easy for me to quickly say "obviously I'd keep only the P10 if it came to it" but then I stop myself and realize how many synths can do what the P10 can do in a poly realm. In fact, the P10 has, in my opinion, a very generic kind of sound (not in a bad way). It's so extremely good at going from one extreme to another.

But there's almost nothing that I have that sounds like a Minimoog, especially once you put the overdrive in. That just sounds like gold, or sorrow... I don't know which. But for me, I used it on an album that I'm putting together that tracks with the loss of a cat, then the rehoming a beloved dog, to the loss of my mother, all within 2 months, and that Model D helped me get that sorrow out there, in a way that I feel like no other synth could have done. There's this way that the Mini can shift pitch when the sound goes away from being overdriven. I haven't found anything that does this at all. I'll post at the bottom an example of how that sounds (you'll have to dig into hearing the Moog over the Rhodes, but I think if you get to around 1 min mark you'll hear that sound I'm talking about).

My Radikal Technologies Spectralis does sound really close to the Minimoog (which surprised me) but it's certainly not that close to the Mini in terms of simplicity of controls (and lacks that overdrive feature, although now that I think about it I could route the voices back into itself and test this).

I'm baffled myself by my thoughts here - but honestly, the Minimoog has a character that is really unique. The P10 is a straightforward and beautiful synth. I would just caution someone from saying "hey the Mini only has 1 voice, the P10 has 10, so therefore that's the better synth."

Of course, if you had no other synths and needed to choose between the mini or the P10, I guess that would be a different conversation.

Just my two cents.

Nice track . The Rhodes and the Minimoog
are iconic . My first Rhodes was the stage 73 with the flattop. My favorite Rhodes was the suitcase .

Thanks - I love that combo (but I also love the Rhodes matched with anything!). Rhodes suitcase is nice - bet it's super heavy!

Honestly, I think it's really easy to discount how great the Minimoog is. I did not believe it would be that good. It was fairly easy to say to myself "I've got the Matriarch and P10, I don't need the Mini..."

But I'm glad I did. Obviously, it's not necessary (none of it is), but if you can get one and you want one... then I don't think you'll be satisfied until you at least try it and see for yourself.

I have a voyager and I use a Yamaha CP300 for my Rhodes electric piano sounds.

The Minimoog and the voyager are different synths and sound different. I notice that a real Rhodes has a different timbre. I went with the Yamaha CP300 since I don’t want the hassle of maintenance with a real Rhodes . Nothing like the real thing though.

Indeed, nice stuff! one of your videos with the Prophet 10 that I'd stumbled on some time last year was certainly a contributor to me eventually pulling the trigger on it. And now owning a Prophet 10 and also having had access to a minimoog for a while I concur with most of what you said (and I'll also plug some work of my own)

This is a livestream free jam where I used my prophet 10 and a viscount legend 70s (don't have a real rhodes sadly)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayJwEycds9U

and another where I used the rented model d and a hammond Sk pro (also used its rhodes setting in a few spots)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1FQzGu5XJc

I will say that the Prophet can do a pretty damn good minimoog impression, probably better than any poly that doesn't have a ladder filter or more than 2 Vcos, and I wouldn't say that it's as simple as the Minimoog is better across the board for all monophonic lead and bass sounds. There are some monophonic patches I like as much or better on the Prophet and some that the minimoog simply can't do: The minimoog can't do the Cars-style Sync lead for just one example and while oscillator for oscillator, voice for voice, the minimoog is thicker and more piercing (in a good way), it is nice to be able to play up to 5 (or 10) voices in unison when you want to.

I'll also say that more than just the sound the Minimoog just lends itself to a different style of playing and programming, not only because it's a monosynth with an undeniable per note tone and presence regardless of how you tweak it, but because it has such a big panel and relatively wide keyboard for a mono and just looks and feels like a premium instrument in a way few if any other synthesizers do . The lack of presets also forces you into a more literally hands on approach to shaping the sound as you're playing.

Only reason I'm at all conflicted about buying the model d once and for all and having both are simply financial.

The Minimoog is 5 K the Prophet 10 rev 4
is now $3,500 .

well right, if the question is which is the better value for the money it's undoubtedly the prophet 10 but the question I and some others were grappling with is if it's worth it for Prophet 10 owners to also get the minimoog and I'd say....it depends.

i think that it's simultaneously overpriced AND still undeniably alluring. And of course it's undeniable that the main justification for spending so much money is not just its practical musical utility but for its value as a historic, luxury collector's item/status symbol