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Beware Harry Brotman
Old 23rd January 2013 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by heyman ➑️
Sounds like you have a real winner there, but are you not also dragging his name thru the mud here on a public forum...?

So what we have here is not some kid "intern" but a respected, long term, Grammy winning AE that Plush happened to show a few "classical recording" tricks.

Now this successful AE has taken some of those newly aquired skills out to the marketplace and has hung out his sign. Now Plush doesn't like this, but it's called ''competition".

Sorry to inform you of this, but the system we use here is called capitalism. If this fellow can offer better services or undercut your fees, welcome to America.

If you don't like this system, perhaps the Havana Symphony has an opening for you. Just don't complain about the wages and lack of union support.

Libel laws also apply to the internet. He with the largest lawyer will win. Tread carefully.
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Old 23rd January 2013 | Show parent
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... which maybe brings up a corollary point, the devil's legal representation has more of a track record of raising thorny issues, or concocting cutesy-pie, rhetorical gimmicks-- rather than actually winning cases.
Old 23rd January 2013 | Show parent
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Best to not make libelous statements on the internet, just as you wouldn't take out an ad out in the local paper to "call out" your competition.

Some seem to feel immune to libel just because it's "on the web". Well, that's not the case and any savey lawyer could make a decent case and probably win. There is no defense for public libel whether it's in a newspaper or on the internet. The laws cover both.

Smart folks think before they type. Others pay the penalties.
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Old 23rd January 2013 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by Jim Williams ➑️
Best to not make libelous statements on the internet, just as you wouldn't take out an ad out in the local paper to "call out" your competition.

Some seem to feel immune to libel just because it's "on the web". Well, that's not the case and any savey lawyer could make a decent case and probably win. There is no defense for public libel whether it's in a newspaper or on the internet. The laws cover both.

Smart folks think before they type. Others pay the penalties.
I've been through this. Courts in my state don't recognize the internet as published, even though it is.

The attorney explained that if actual damages are 'unquantifiable' there is nothing the court will do or is interested in doing about it.

The libelous information could have even cost you a job. But the catch-22 is that if you never GOT the job, you aren't OUT anything (say the courts of my wonderful state).

If it's on the internet, the courts in my state basically say, "You shouldn't post baseless accusations on the internet. Shame, shame. Now get back to posting." The courts essentially tell the plaintiffs to get a thicker skin.

But I am a nobody in the grand scheme of things. The court here is not interested in doing anything about libel unless you are high profile.
Old 24th January 2013 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by joelpatterson ➑️
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I'm not at all sure if it's Harry's reputation that has taken a dive in this thread...
... so true Joel, and finely said !

Cheers y'all.
Old 24th January 2013
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I wish I lived in a country where I could act like a ****** and have the general public turn a blind eye as long as I was holding up the capitalism banner.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Williams ➑️
So what we have here is not some kid "intern" but a respected, long term, Grammy winning AE that Plush happened to show a few "classical recording" tricks.

Now this successful AE has taken some of those newly aquired skills out to the marketplace and has hung out his sign. Now Plush doesn't like this, but it's called ''competition".

Sorry to inform you of this, but the system we use here is called capitalism. If this fellow can offer better services or undercut your fees, welcome to America.

If you don't like this system, perhaps the Havana Symphony has an opening for you. Just don't complain about the wages and lack of union support.

Libel laws also apply to the internet. He with the largest lawyer will win. Tread carefully.
Hello Jim,

Never libelous if it's true. I'm insured against libel, any way. Insured for a lot. Brotman is not engaging in capitalism. He is breaking unwritten rules in Chicago. We usually roll guys like this, but no need this time. Brotman will lose interest as his overtures are refused over and over. He has been blacklisted.

You can't get the job if you can't do the job. Or let's say you can't get that job again after you've screwed up with it.

Jim likes to stalk me here and offer bon mots. Such is GS.
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Old 24th January 2013 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by Chris Lago ➑️
His name is really Epic, someone should make a movie about it.
Seriously. There could be a whole series of movies.
  • Beware Harry Brotman
  • The Harry Brotman Affair
  • The World According to Harry Brotman
  • Being Harry Brotman
  • Harry Brotman and the Temple of Doom

    and of course,
  • Inside Harry Brotman (all male cast)
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Originally Posted by kafka ➑️
Seriously. There could be a whole series of movies.
  • Beware Harry Brotman
  • The Harry Brotman Affair
  • The World According to Harry Brotman
  • Being Harry Brotman
  • Harry Brotman and the Temple of Doom

    and of course,
  • Inside Harry Brotman (all male cast)
And of course the musical : Harry Brotman, Harry Brotman!
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Old 24th January 2013 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by Zyzygis ➑️
And of course the musical : Harry Brotman, Harry Brotman!


How about Life, Love, Brotman?
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Old 24th January 2013
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Brotman begins?
Brotman returns?

Or my own favorite, Brotman and Robbin'......
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Old 24th January 2013 | Show parent
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Those titles are funny. I tell you, his name is pure gold. Let's get a good comedic cast in this, we're set for life!

Will the real Harry Brotman, please stand up!
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Old 24th January 2013 | Show parent
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Nothing beats a Harryville Brot' - It's a pure sausagefest!
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When Harry met Brotman
The Trouble with Brotman
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Old 24th January 2013
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Brotman v Brotman
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Pulp Brotman
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Old 24th January 2013 | Show parent
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Can I make a song called "Harry Brotman"?
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When Harry met Plush: A Story of Love and Betrayal
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Originally Posted by Chris Lago ➑️
Can I make a song called "Harry Brotman"?
"... the way things are going... they're gonna crucify me!"
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Looks like I found the brot-guy. (Brot = german for bread)
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Years ago I made up a song that I sing to Harry Brotman.
It goes like this:

""Hairy Harry Brotman, he Brotmanized. Hairy, Harry Brotman, he Brotmantized. Hairy Harry Brotman he Brot--man-IZED!" Oh yeah! Git it on! Good God!! UNGHH
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Originally Posted by kafka ➑️
Seriously. There could be a whole series of movies.
Bring Me the Head of Harry Brotman
Raging Brotman
Citizen Brotman

not forgetting: The Battleship Brottemkin
Old 24th January 2013
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Debbie does Brotman
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Old 24th January 2013 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by plush ➑️
he is breaking unwritten rules in chicago. We usually roll guys like this, but no need this time. Brotman will lose interest as his overtures are refused over and over. He has been blacklisted.

You can't get the job if you can't do the job. Or let's say you can't get that job again after you've screwed up with it.

Jim likes to stalk me here and offer bon mots. Such is gs.
don't mess with the mob
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Old 24th January 2013 | Show parent
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Harry Brotman, Harry Brotman, a follow-up series to Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman.

And the final movie in the Brotman saga, Stirred, not Shaken.

Cheers,
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Don
Old 24th January 2013 | Show parent
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Is everybody a saint now?

I Never met a human or company who wasn't screwing over someone else.

Don't blame the people... Blame the system.

Want change? Change the system.
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Old 24th January 2013 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by dirko2000 ➑️
don't mess with the mob
Pulped Brockman


...one thing for certain. Nobody here will ever forget his name
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And the final movie in the Brotman saga, Stirred, not Shaken.
Is that from " The brotMan with the golden shotGun " ?
Old 24th January 2013
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A guy came to my studio yesterday wanting me to teach him classical engineering. I have a strong suspicion it may be Harry Brotman. He had on a Cubs hat, headphones, and a black sweater.
Old 24th January 2013 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by jdsowa ➑️
A guy came to my studio yesterday wanting me to teach him classical engineering. I have a strong suspicion it may be Harry Brotman. He had on a Cubs hat, headphones, and a black sweater.
Exactly.. That wasn't Steve Bartman, the name was Brotman..!!
Old 24th January 2013
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"Ohhhh, I should've taken a Brotman before I left the house."

"Dude ... you just got Brotman-ed."

That's all I got.
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