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Old 30th March 2009 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by opentune ➡️
Same thing i see often:

"could of" does not mean "could´ve"

it´s "could have"

you need a vowel between the consonants, the Schwa is the default vowel in american english : Of, shove, mother, .... uh....

so, "Could've" sounds exactly the same as "Could Of"...



-tINY

Old 30th March 2009 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tINY ➡️

you need a vowel between the consonants, the Schwa is the default vowel in american english : Of, shove, mother, .... uh....

so, "Could've" sounds exactly the same as "Could Of"...



-tINY

Yeah, i noticed that most of the issues discussed here have one thing in common:

It makes a huge difference either you learn english as a foreign language in
school (like i did) or if you grow up in an english speaking country.
Probably non-native speakers can handle the stuff mentioned in this thread
because they actually have to think about what they say...
Well, we all should think before we speak - but i guess you get the point.heh

What did you just say? Schwa? Hey, that´s another word for my collection!
While others collect preamps (i can´t afford this), i built a nice
collection of "sch"-words used by americans.
I don´t know why, but it just sounds funny. Hope you don´t mind.

I´ll put that new word to good use pretty soon! Watch out!
Old 30th March 2009 | Show parent
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"the grammar thread" = good thread
"the grandma thread" = even better
Old 18th May 2009 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by opentune ➡️
Same thing i see often:

"could of" does not mean "could´ve"

it´s "could have"
Yeah, that's a common one. I forgot about that one. Thanks!

"could of" = nonsense

"could have" = could have

- c
Old 19th May 2009 | Show parent
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I think english is more important than grammer

IE that car is not insane
its pretty or nice

think of repitions, uses of english can create
Old 19th May 2009 | Show parent
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"Less" vs. "Fewer"

"Less" = A smaller quantity of something you can't count, e.g. "You need less reverb on that vocal".

"Fewer" = a smaller quantity of something countable, e.g. "I use fewer plugins than I did a few years ago".

There are a couple of exceptions involving time, money and distance. For instance you could say "I have fewer dollars than I did yesterday" and be correct, since dollars are countable. But "money", even though it's countable, is considered a mass noun, so you'd say "I have less money than yesterday"

I know the sign at the grocery store says "Ten items or less", but it's incorrect.
Old 21st May 2009 | Show parent
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i swear, I see this one every day at least once...

lose = opposite of win; or can't find ...looz

loose = not tight...loos
Old 25th May 2009 | Show parent
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Both of the above two posts are right on. I forgot about those.

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Old 25th May 2009 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Parsonage ➡️
"Less" = A smaller quantity of something you can't count, e.g. "You need less reverb on that vocal".

"Fewer" = a smaller quantity of something countable, e.g. "I use fewer plugins than I did a few years ago".

There are a couple of exceptions involving time, money and distance. For instance you could say "I have fewer dollars than I did yesterday" and be correct, since dollars are countable. But "money", even though it's countable, is considered a mass noun, so you'd say "I have less money than yesterday"

I know the sign at the grocery store says "Ten items or less", but it's incorrect.
You add much and many to that.
I have too much money.
I have too many coins.
Old 25th May 2009 | Show parent
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Let's add "I've got" to the list. It's actually "I have", but I notice from movies and such that it has been screwed up for decades.

Then there's take and bring...
Old 29th May 2009 | Show parent
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10 flagrant grammar mistakes that make you look stupid - ZDNet.co.uk

For me it's its and it's. It's dumb that the non possessive word has its own apostrophe.
Old 4th June 2009 | Show parent
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imminent - shortly about to happen

immanent - godly, with the power of god


and...
complementary - serving to fill out or complete

complimentary - given free
Old 6th June 2009 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by Mr.Cheese ➡️
I don't know, but for me, writing or typing properly is just as important as dressing properly or having good hygiene. It's a representation of who you are and you could be the smartest and most informed person on a forum like this with too much information to offer, but if your grammar is off and you don't know the difference between their, they're and there, it makes you look like an idiot in my eyes. I really don't think there is any excuse for writing badly. What, you want to be more "hip-hop" and sound ghetto? That is even more ********. Slang should be used only in spoken word, not written or typed. Take care.
Well-spoken. I sometimes wonder why many don't understand the importance of a good first impression online and face to face when they neglect grammar...even if they emphasize appearances. And on a related note...
Old 7th June 2009 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Cheese ➡️
It's a representation of who you are and you could be the smartest and most informed person on a forum like this with too much information to offer, but if your grammar is off and you don't know the difference between their, they're and there, it makes you look like an idiot in my eyes.
Can somebody please tell me why this quote is not run-on sentence of sorts?

I understand a sentence can technically go on infinitely. The Preamble to the United States Constitution, or the sentences in certain contracts I've had to sign go on forever for example.

I'm not a grammar expert, in fact I'm horrible at it, but I'm willing to learn because it would be beneficial. I FOR SURE fell asleep in my English classes in school back in the day.

Furthermore, I don't wish to make fun of the above quote. It's a serious question I have. I kind of get annoyed when a sentence goes on when it could have been broken up into several complete thoughts. Talking to a person verbally is fine, but it's a bit odd when reading those same thoughts.

Good thread. I'm not sure there are things grammatically wrong in my post, because seriously, I'm not sure. Please point them out and teach me.

Thanks!
Old 7th June 2009 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by big country ➡️
I think english is more important than grammer

IE that car is not insane
its pretty or nice

think of repitions, uses of english can create
That car is not insane, it's fukkin nvts!!
I'm not sure it would be nice either. Maybe nice looking..
Old 9th June 2009 | Show parent
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Farther- physical distance.
Further- all other uses.

Boston is farther from New York than New Haven.

I'm reading a book to further my understanding.

If you can follow the word with "away", it's farther. "Boston is farther away". You couldn't put "away" in the second example, so it's "further".
Old 10th June 2009 | Show parent
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I just ran into one I see all the time and it drives me nuts.
Penultimate does not mean the very best. It means second to last.
Y is the penultimate letter in the alphabet.
And if we want to get tricky, X is the antepenultimate letter.
Old 17th October 2009 | Show parent
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As has been pointed out recently, I think the most common offense is people getting confused about your & you're / their & they're & there.

There's also yore. But that's not some common, is it?...

- c
Old 17th October 2009 | Show parent
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'Et cetera' is commonly mis-abbreviated as 'ect.' instead of 'etc.'

'Congratulations' is often mis-spelled as 'congradulations'.
Old 25th October 2009 | Show parent
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I teach English to international students for a day job. I should be correcting essays right now! heh
Some good points have been made above, and some inaccurate ones too I might add, but I don't get paid for the time I spend here so....
Time to find another thread to read
Old 21st January 2010 | Show parent
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whut the hayck iz thizz threead M'Bout?
Old 21st January 2010 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Funk Dracula ➡️
Can somebody please tell me why this quote is not run-on sentence of sorts?
Ya gots to be careful when posting in grammar threads!

The sentence you cited (not sighted or sited) is not technically incorrect, but I would have put a period after "It's a representation of who you are" and started a new sentence with "you".
Old 25th January 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver Sonya ➡️
This thread is here as reference.

don't you mean " as A reference" ?


Old 25th January 2010 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by matt thomas ➡️
"None" takes the singular.

None of the mics IS good, as opposed to none of the mics ARE good.

Seriously, but everyone gets it wrong so it's pretty much accepted to use the plural these days. It comes from "None" = "not one".

narco
none of the mics are AS good

also singular
Old 25th January 2010 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SmooveG ➡️
none of the mics are AS good

also singular
None of the the mics is as good.
"As" adds a comparison; but none is still "not one", and singular.
Old 26th January 2010 | Show parent
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A useful and hilarious comic with non-sequiturs for grammar and spelling lessons.
10 Words You Need to Stop Misspelling - The Oatmeal
How To Use An Apostrophe - The Oatmeal
How to use a semicolon - The Oatmeal

And a test:
The Twitter Spelling Test Quiz - The Oatmeal
Old 26th January 2010 | Show parent
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"I have no apples or oranges", should (usually) be "I have no apples NOR oranges"

And I always think of the logical interpretation of "or" too in this type of example. Eg. If you say "I do not have apples or oranges", you could have both apples AND oranges, as you are only saying that you do not have only one of the two options.

Edit: I realized I got this mixed up myself after I posted it. "Saying I do not have apples or oranges" could also mean that you can have either apples OR oranges, but not both, because in each case it would either be true that you do not have apples or you do not have oranges.

Anyway, it just goes to show that you have to get the correct grammar if you want to be accurate about your intentions

matt
Old 15th February 2010 | Show parent
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"It is the worse thing...." No it isn't; it is the WORST thing, unless you are in fact comparing two items only. At that point, one is indeed worse than the other.

"I could care less", which makes little conversational sense, means you DO care. There is room for you to care "less"
"I COULDN'T care less" means you DON'T CARE.

"Everybody doesn't want it".....that means, with tortured construction, no one wants it.
"Not everybody wants it" means some do and some don't.
(For some reason that one has become very prevalent. I wonder where it came from?)
Old 16th February 2010 | Show parent
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Which is correct?

The crowd is standing on its feet to applaud the champion as he makes his lap of honor.
The crowd are standing now, the atmosphere in the stadium is electric!

Is?

Are?

You are wrong whatever you say.

Between the USA and the UK - one country (the USA?) regards the crowd as 'one collective entity' so 'is' works. The other (the UK?) regards the crowd as plural, 'a group' - so 'are' works for them..

Works both ways - but its different for different countries

Is this the single one grammar difference amongst English speaking countries?

As a dyslexic I would like to campaign for the removal of the apostrophe in don't. (It drives me nuts having to add it every time.)

In the UK the use of 'what' as in ''Like the one what we have" (instead of "like the one we have" or "its the same as the one we have" is gaining ground to be accepted.. ...Working class made good celebrities use it all the time "on the TV what we watch" (I find it rilly F annoying.. it ain't as good as the words what we used to use)
Old 16th February 2010 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jules ➡️
Which is correct?
U.S.-
The crowd is applauding the champion as he makes his lap of honor.

Britain-
The crowd are applauding the champion as he makes his lap of honour.

England and America are two countries separated by a common language.
-George Bernard Shaw
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