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Old 2nd February 2009
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Gear Head
 
🎧 10 years
not liking sound of guitar

it may just be me but does the guitar on the track i've been working on sound dull and muddy i've attached a file with the intro so you can hear what it sounds like.

i was just wanting tips on how i could improve the guitars and make them more brighter i'm looking for the new metal saosin kinda sound. I am using an Edirol M-16 mixer epiphone G400 logic 8 and amplitube 2 and guitar rig 2

thanks
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Old 3rd February 2009
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I would be more worried about that snare drum....


Anyway... yes, it sounds a bit dull. Is that post-EQ? Have you hi-passed it or maybe added a little hi shelf?

Is a real amp not an option?
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Hi-Pass the guitar parts and add some top end after you compress them with a fast attack compressor setting.

I just don't think that amp simulation plug ins work very well. I prefer a small tube amp (5 watts) just cranked with a SM57 up close.

Yes the snare is disturbing too. Where is the kick? Not picking on you, but getting the drums to sound punchy will make your guitar parts sit in the mix easier. : )
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meh, in my experience those amp sims dont do a good job of converting dry signal to anything usable, waaaay better to just record the amps.

heck (on a budget),

rane ms1b or ART MPA Gold
shure sm57
any decent tube amp (5150, rectifier, etc)

= money
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btw, if youre looking for the saosin sound, check out some mixing techniques of Chris Lord Alge and David B.

I know CLA uses the SSL channel EQ and boosts 8k to get "that" brightness. Works for me as well
Old 25th February 2009 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by awakened ➡️
meh, in my experience those amp sims dont do a good job of converting dry signal to anything usable, waaaay better to just record the amps.
This will get you 75% of any guitar you've heard from 70's,80's and 90's.
Either a Mesa Studio .22 calibur or a Mesa Subway Rocket with a
Shure 57 1-2" off the speaker, just off the center cone or just off
the outer edge of the speaker. Put this setup in a closet with pillows
or the like. If you can afford it, Add a Fender
Highway One Tele to that and get amazing Zeppelin sounds, Rage Against
the Machine, Ect. Most any guitar will sound really good thru these 2 amps
but the Highway One, Wow... I bought it more for country pickin (actually bought it over the $2500 Johnny Hiland PRS in side by side comparison) and for Blues but during our Improv night, everyone commented how great it sounds distorted as well . . .


Good Luck !
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