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Old 2nd October 2002
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New Beck Album



Nicely recorded acoustic guitars. That's the only positive comment that comes to mind right now.
Old 2nd October 2002
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His art is / was such a zeitgeist 'thang" perhaps he's all played out?



Old 2nd October 2002
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I bought this album on the weekend and have thrashed it incessantly since..... its got to go back in the CD rack today or ill never listen to it again cos ill get so sick of it!!! its that damn addicitve to me.. But then im a real sucker for a Godrich production.

I love it to pieces... true the lovable, whimsical, comical Beck is gone...(Which im glad off cos he was kinda losing it after the sexual escapades, androgeny and prince adoration affair which was Midnite Vultures.. which i still loved) and now replaced the lonely troubador who is driving along the desolate road of a broken heart..... poor Beck!

Sonically its a text book Godrich production with that rich Oceanway sound, that drips all over the strings... Intersting 70's snare tone which reminds me of CSN&Y or someother close upfront snr sound.. also very Virgin Suicides snr tone which is prolly closest to any contemporary reference that i can think of!

Definately give it a whirl today! cos i think its great! and lotsa nice accoustic tones... but what else would i expect from 'God'

PEACE
Wiggy
Old 2nd October 2002
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interesting that you mention the virgin suicides because i really feel like he was influenced by the french band "air" (or by their influences) on this record.
Old 2nd October 2002
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Originally posted by XHipHop
interesting that you mention the virgin suicides because i really feel like he was influenced by the french band "air" (or by their influences) on this record.
So is the new Beck album as good as the Virgin Suicides? I thought the song Beck sang on 10,000Mhz Legend was the best part of that album...Come on Air!
Old 2nd October 2002
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Honestly, it's not as bad as i said. I think i'm more shocked than anything. No experimental sampling like on Odelay. Instead, mostly (if not all...the liner notes are a pain in the ass to read...i don't like the layout) live musicians playing some really mature music.
Old 2nd October 2002
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This record is one of the best of our time in myopinion the songs, performances and sonicvs are flawless in my opinion. If your searching for another odelay your a tard. That will be his mext record. I agree the first time i heard it i thought of that great deam room 70s drum thing just like the virgin suicides thing. Beck and Air are very tight same influences share same producers and guest vocals. The thing is airs last record blew a very large donkey. Beck keeps getting better it hink midnight vultures was a great record as well. The scott walkeresque arangemants on this record are in sane. Mny favorite thing on a godric h record is always the same, his silence sounds better then anyone elses. The space he doesnt fill in sounds sooooo goooood. I still think godrichs best work is that divine comedy record though.
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If your searching for another odelay your a tard. That will be his mext record

I agree.. i thought Mutations was a Godsend... and such a cool album that only hinted at the truer (perhaps to his folk roots?), freewheeling, carthartic and more mature side of Beck that has been illustrated with aplomb on his latest record. Then after mutations there was that curve ball called 'midnite vultures' which i also dug. So true to form the next one will prolly be a mish mash of jazz and new romantic sea shanties or somthing weirly odd that only he could pull off..



Beck and Air are very tight same influences share same producers and guest vocals

Yeah Tony Hoffer was in on 'vultures' and it rocked da house... but he kinda blew it with AIR.. either the english press and other had been blowling too much coke up AIR ass's and the made a medicore album @ best.. the remixes album is not that crash hot save the one track redone by Modjo(french house crew) which was a funky and spritley version of 'people in the city' which was way cool!.... Tony hoffer was also slated to produce the latest 'suede' album, which would seem an obvious clash given their respective infulences etc and it did not come off to fruition, and they went and did it with Stephen Street ( UK engineer god #2 after Godrich!).... i mean who says God is a DJ!!!

There is also a nice lsuh reverb sound that emanates across all the tracks on the whole album.... who said the 80's werent coming back! jsut he has not gated them.. but im sure that is too come!

Ditto Divine Comedy Album


Im sure i will think of more superlatives to lavish upon this great album when i start listening to it again and it reawakens my consciousness from being blown away as it is now.... i listened to OK computer this morning and it still blows me away each time... but im sure its the songs more than the Godrich production itself.. but he sure as hell made it that much of an awesome album.

PEACE
Wiggy
Old 2nd October 2002
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What about

the new PETER GABRIEL record "UP" ?

Very dark, rich... awesome I think...
Old 2nd October 2002
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I'm pretty sure Beck sued Geffen over "Mutations" when it came out because it wasn't done and he wanted it to be released independantly like his other folk albums.
Old 3rd October 2002
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Jules flippantly noted (about Beck):
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perhaps he's all played out?
Have you heard the new record Jules?
If not - you should.
Many folks - if not all - think its his best. Its only really comparable to Mutations - not his other stuff.
It sounds great. I think it stands up there with the greatest "breakup" records out there.
Old 3rd October 2002
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At the end of today's session, Benj, the assistant, pulled out the new Beck disc and we put it on.

I only had time to listen to the first two tracks but I think it's great stuff. The embellishments to what is basically a folk git + vocal song are really good. The mixes, fx and sounds are great.

The one influence that came to my mind before all others during the second track was Serge Gainsbourg...the track sounded a lot like Gainsbourg's "Melody Nelson", the song about when he wrecks his Rolls driving off the road, meets the sexy, adolescent Melody, and his life changes.

I don't know if anyone in the US knows Gainsbourg (I sure as hell didn't before living in Europe) but he greatly inspired many, many French artists, including Air.

The new Peter Gabriel seems to sound pretty good too, from the few seconds I heard of it.
Old 3rd October 2002
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re: Godrich

I have the Radiohead albums, the Travis album, the Pavement album, and this Beck album.

What are other Godrich essentials that should be checked out?
Old 3rd October 2002
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Wiggy I am also with you there on stephen street what he did with the Promise ring as wastounding shaped a poor at best band into a well oiled song machine. Blur may be my favorite band up to the Clash.
Other godrich goodies
Jason Falkner - I forgot the title, this doesnt sound godrichy sonics wise but the arangemants and production are soooooo him. Some of the bets sounding vynil youll ever listen to as well
The last 2 Travis records have him on it. But not the first one.I personally love the way the last ones songs are done and it sound fantastic.
The Divine Comedy record i cant reittrate it any more,
REM Monster he mixed which has some interesting things but yet again this isnt half as interesting as what he usually does
Natalia Umbruglia which i have no idea of the record title. this sounds good the mixes are really good but ill be damned if anyone will say that these are well thought out and creative songs. In fact they are garbage.
I am a huge fan of listening to his work on vynil granted where I work we have a $30,000.00 turntable so i can really apreciate all the work that he puts in. Yet evewn when i listen at home his work on vynil really is the way to apreciate it. Definitly one of the only engineers<John Mcentire being the only other I can think of> that makes it worth it to buy the vynil and the CD.
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I am a huge fan of listening to his work on vynil granted where I work we have a $30,000.00 turntable so i can really apreciate all the work that he puts in

WOW

mucho respect... I wish i could be so dedicated to my passion.. but my credit is stretched as it is.. hmmmmm PMC AML1 speaker and vinyl... and i could go to heaven today..

My fave work he did with Radiohead was in the interim period of 'The Bends' and 'OK'. In particular the 'My Iron Lung' EP.. chek out the track 'permanent daylight' this was around the time of 'talk show host' from Romeo and Juliet... but the EP version ****s ont he soundtrack version... Nellee hooper as much as i love his work and in aprtiuclar the **** he did on 'Protection', fuct around with the song

Ditto REM... great album and one they had to make.... great to chill out to with lotsa quirkey keybord tones

Natalie Imbruglia's album was called 'left of the middle' he mixed th ebig radio hit 'TORN'

He also mixed a few songs for Neil finn (formerly of Split Enz and Crowded house' for his first solo LP

The travis albums are 'par excellance`'.. save the divine comedy album.

He also engineered a bit of Ride's album 'carnival of light'

But overall he does not do a great deal of work.. i think he jsut chooses his work carefully and it shows int he results...

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p...R152770#APPEAR

ALL hail GOD...

PEACE
Wiggy
Old 21st October 2002
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My ears pricked up on track2 because it sounds alot like a David Holmes track I love "Don't Die Just Yet" from "Let's Get killed", just checked the album sleeve and it's acknowledged Serge Gainsbourg as a writer. Bought the Beck CD yesterday. Really assured and beautiful.
Must check out Melody Nelson then!!
Was reading a Godrich interview on Beck, saying when he steps up to the mic he is unafraid, the most relaxed vocalist he's ever worked with...
Old 21st October 2002
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Originally posted by XHipHop
interesting that you mention the virgin suicides because i really feel like he was influenced by the french band "air" (or by their influences) on this record.
I got more of a "Son Volt" vibe... minus the twang. I enjoy the new Beck a lot.
Old 21st October 2002
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Anybody heard Uncle Tupelo's "Anodyne"?

If your into the Americana/Alt. Country thang you GOTTA check out this record.

Produced by Brian Paulson (Odelay, I believe). And the sounds? Amazing.

I like the new Beck album. I really wanted to like it too but I still think Mutations is one of THE albums of our (?) generation.

R.
Old 22nd October 2002
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You betcha, there are some of us americans who know a bit about Serge Gainsbourg...

From a Young Age: My first exposure to SG-- a funny story:

Growing up we lived in houses that had those very hip early 1970's built-in intercoms. The Master Units always had radio tuners so Mom could pump in that gawd-awful Muzak "WPCH-'Peach-95'. All the music, all the time." to us kids, to keep our minds calm and pure, you know kinda like Nurse Ratchett did in "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest". Instrumentals, light easy Elevator Muzak, syrupy strings... Right? Oh yes, in early '70's Atlanta at least, and Miami too as I remember, there was a station that played ONLY Muzak.

It was only much later of course, after hearing THAT SONG, yes, where do I recall this tune from? Oh yes! Finally I am hearing the version original of "Je T'aime, Moi non plus" and only after I had studied some french, that I realised what good Mom did by us by not exposing us young kids to THOSE particular lyrics, only the syrupy strings version, not that we would have understood them anyway... Serge is way too cool! (was, R.I.P.)

Hey yeah, and Beck. I dig Beck. And I also dig Beck on VINYL! Especially on a VPI TNT Mk. V - HR w/JMW Arm, Helikon MC, and Manley Steelhead rig of course! (Whoops, sorry to "hifi out" on you boyz.) Driving Tannoy Westminsters, (there, Tannoy, brought you back).

I saw him do a semi-secret tour-warmup show nearby here in Claremont at Bridges Auditorium last Monday night. I cannot for the life of me understand the attraction of these bunches of people shining powerful flashlights into the audience's eyes, who are dressed as 6 foot tall furry animals, whose "leader" has a vocal range of less than two raspy notes, (I mean really, Ringo can sing more notes than that!) who opened for Beck, who call themselves The Flaming Lips, who went on and on and on for about two hours (yawn) when we were all there to see BECK DAMMIT! Well, I did not enjoy the live presentation of these Lips. Some things might be better left for the studio engineers like you to craft into something presentable.

FINALLY Beck came on and gave us around two hours of a lot of stuff from his new album which was great. The audience however wasn't as into it. Buncha college kids most of whom were still in Jr. High (or elementary school?) when Beck's first stuff came out. So they wanna hear Beck's Greatest Hits on Stage of course and they don't know from vinyl of course cuz they're too busy swapping mp3's...

Anyhoo, I was most proud seeing TWO Manley Voxboes hogging up 6RU of rack space in the FOH rig. Oh yes!
Old 22nd October 2002
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Well, I did not enjoy the live presentation of these Lips. Some things might be better left for the studio engineers like you to craft into something presentable.
Oooh EveAnna- its been done. The last two Flaming Lips albums are amazing Studio Productions. But I have heard they aren't up to it live - but they really are a whole different category of artists than most.
Old 22nd November 2002
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This album is my fave album of the year so far, maybe longer.

I LOVE it.
Old 1st December 2002
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......i had a discussion with N.G. about the new Beck album a couple of weeks ago...very interesting......he said that it was mixed entirely on the centre section of an API, with absolutely no automation whatsoever..only live mixing......some mixes took as little as half an hour!!!! He said that he didn't pan anything other than centre, hard left or hard right....and he had a C2 compressor strapped over the 2-buss, working lightly.....overall, he came across as a very straight-forward, un-gimmicky kind of engineer....not extremely technically minded, more feel and vibe type of thing.
Old 1st December 2002
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flaming lips used to kick full on ass live when their drummer played drums instead of keyboards.... flamings lips kicks becks ass down the mutha****in block.

at least the singer has better tone than manley gear.
Old 1st December 2002
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at least the singer has better tone than manley gear.
Mind your manners you catty twit.
Old 1st December 2002
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Old 2nd December 2002
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new beck

I'm not sure if I'm an idiot (ok, I am).
There's 3 things I listen for with a record. (whether making it or listening to it) It doesn't need all 3 but it's nice when it does. Heart, head,and hips. Beck's already done hips and head.
(those are easy) I's nice to hear him do heart. I like it. It's a simple, heartfelt recording. We could use more of that

BTW - Manley gear, in the proper hands is astonishing. Witness the Massive Passive.
I just took delivery of the maxed out SLAM!.
After reading the manuel (EXCELLENT!) 3 times
and playing around with it I'm awestruck. Go EveAnna. You don't need everyone to love your stuff (it would be a boring world) but most of us appreciate the time, dedication and effort that goes into such a massive project. Do me a favor, take your time on the next piece and maybe I'll save my marriage .......and the color! It's the balls!
Old 2nd December 2002
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Re: new beck

Quote:
Originally posted by chap

There's 3 things I listen for with a record. (whether making it or listening to it) It doesn't need all 3 but it's nice when it does. Heart, head,and hips. Beck's already done hips and head.
(those are easy) I's nice to hear him do heart. I like it. It's a simple, heartfelt recording. We could use more of that
I like your 3 things and it's true about Beck hitting all 3 in Sea Changes.
He's reached a 'golden age' where it's all come together, sounds simple, but for all the elements to come together is a rich and rare thing.
Old 3rd December 2002
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Ditto above post...
Old 4th December 2002
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I have to spend more time listening to Sea Change; although I enjoy the overall sound of the album, none of the songs stand out. Beautiful strings, my god they're sweet and mysterious. Agreed about the props for Mutations, easily one of my faves from the last few years. Cool songs, trippy textures and instrumentation, and the whole album has a smooth warm tone. Did a search here, came up with nada, can anyone shed any light on the vocal chain, recording medium, etc that was used for Mutations? I read someplace else that they spent one day on each tune working on Mutations. Don't recall reading whether Beck wrote the tunes on the spot with the other musicians or if each song was written beforehand and recorded in a day (which would still be an accomplishment).
Old 9th December 2002
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Hated it. No dynamics in the arrangements, the "maturity" in the singins and lyrics seemed totally fake, but most of all there's no depth to the mixes, like everything is in the foreground, including the backing pads. Different strokes for different folks, I suppose, but I still like One Foot in the Grave and Mellow Gold best. Sorry to be a dissenter on this one.
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