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Is a Preamp with EQ needed for Singers?
Old 24th May 2013
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Is a Preamp with EQ needed for Singers?

So I've been reading a lot lately..

I had a very well known source tell me I MUST use EQ for recording singers. Is this true?

I'm currently using a fully modded Zen Pro Audio Pre73 with the fully modded EQ73 (thanks Warren).

While recording singing vocals, I've never touched the EQ because I know it can't be undone once recorded. Not sure if theory is involved here or not but I'm curious about this!
Old 24th May 2013
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I never use EQ on vocalists when tracking....(Mostly because or recall issues down the line)

BUT, I do think that I'd be ok with tracking if I EQ'd the vocals to almost exactly what I wanted them to sound like as a finished track...Say, just a little top shelf.

Realistically, I don't like to print effects to tape.
Old 24th May 2013
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I never use EQ on vocalists when tracking....(Mostly because or recall issues down the line)

BUT, I do think that I'd be ok with tracking if I EQ'd the vocals to almost exactly what I wanted them to sound like as a finished track...Say, just a little top shelf.

Realistically, I don't like to print effects to tape.
I'm worried about that and I'd prefer not to use EQ before. Some say cut everything below 80khz because its unusable
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Originally Posted by awhitebeats ➡️
Some say cut everything below 80khz because its unusable
That's a pretty safe call. If you've only got the one good EQ, I say print it. Just be light-handed with it if you're not feeling secure about it.
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No its not a must.
It is a relatively common practice.
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Ignore what people tell you or current conventional wisdom says and go with what you think sounds good in the particular circumstance.

I frequently EQ "to tape" (sometimes literally, usually figuratively) and prefer to track vocals with compression- colored compressors- as well. And I have no problem distorting vocals going in, too, if it's called for.

A highpass or low-cut filter can be very useful in eliminating plosives, whether on the mic or on the board/pre. Realistically, there's probably not much useful information down there anyhow, but use your ears. If it sucks with the HPF/low-cut engaged, don't use it. If it's a variable HPF, have them sing a bit and dial it in. For a deep male voice, it's gonna be a bit different than, say, an operatic soprano. There's no hard-and-fast rules; it will vary by the singer, the mic itself, distance from the mic, etc.

I am of the school that says "get it right going in". And I'm not an older guy- early 30s- or an analog purist (though I like hardware and tape) either. From my point of view, it's less to do down the line. It's a production decision. Practice, in this case, beats theory. If it sounds better with the EQ, use the EQ.

I am also reminded of Slipperman's quote re: recording guitars- "everything is EQ". And that's a really important point: the mic choice, placement, preamp, etc., even the room itself... What's a knob twist or two, after all?
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