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4047 vs. 4060 for real men
Old 24th January 2013
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4047 vs. 4060 for real men

Which one would you choose for male vocals?
4047
4060
Blueberry
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Old 24th January 2013
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Depends on who the man is.

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Old 24th January 2013
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Originally Posted by Omega Arts ➑️
Depends on who the man is.

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Pwned.
Old 24th January 2013
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Real men don't think $400 mics are high end ;-)
Old 24th January 2013
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I guess Billy Joel, Sting, Paul McCartney and James Taylor are not real men..based on the AT-4047 used on Tony Bennet's duet CD.

...but my preference would be for the AT-4060 if I could pick just one for male vox...although I do favor the AT-4047 when using my API 512c for vocals for some reason. They just seem to match up well together...FWIW I was never a fan of the Blueberry. Blue Cactus, yes!

Hope this helps!
Old 24th January 2013
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I own a 4047, and 4050--but they arent high end mics.
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I had a 4060 for years but sold it to fund a U47. I wish I kept it. That mic sounded great on just about anything. Male, female, guitar, room mic.
Old 24th January 2013
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The thing I've noticed about the 4060 is how forgiving and flattering it is. Everything sounds good through it and even mere mediocre singers can cut a record on it and get pro results. With other mics, even if they've been great on other good singers, I find they aren't necessarily good for all-around use. A good 2nd choice would be a c12 type mic.
Old 24th January 2013
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I recently did a shootout between the 4060 and a bunch of my 'better' mics, including the Peluso 2247LE, Pearlman TM1, Gefell UM900, and a nice old U67.

I was kind of hoping the 4060 would get blown out of the water so I could decide to sell it (and recoup some of the cash I spent obtaining the U67!). But even though the 67 is still my fave of the bunch, the 4060 held up really well. Less obviously 'tubey' than the others perhaps (except the UM900, which is also kinda subtle), but with plenty of body and punch. In the end, I couldn't quite decide to 'bump' it from the mic closet.

I like'em all dang it! (But the U67 is still king in my books... ).

I don't think anyone can go wrong with a 4060. Haven't heard the 4047.
Old 24th January 2013
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Used to have a 4047. For basically the same price you can get an MA-201 fet, which blows it out of the water, IMO. Don't know about the 4060, though.
Old 24th January 2013
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4060.

But, I didn't find them similar. I thought the 4047 was much more colored and textured-thicker...the 4060 more just true/transparent/focused. Which made it more useful on more. I always said if they would've made a multipatten version, I'd own a pair. I just don't find myself using cardioid for a majority with an LDC.
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Used to have a 4047. For basically the same price you can get an MA-201 fet, which blows it out of the water, IMO. Don't know about the 4060, though.
Other end of the spectrum if you ask me! No better just two different sounds!
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Originally Posted by jeremycox ➑️
Real men don't think $400 mics are high end ;-)
I think nobody actually said "high end" but the correct price for a new 4060 is more at over $1400 ...
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I own a 4047, and 4050--but they arent high end mics.
I have a 4050 and think it does a good job in a basically uncolored way .. how does the 4047 compare ??
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I think nobody actually said "high end" but the correct price for a new 4060 is more at over $1400 ...
Sorry, i was just being bitchy. I've never used a 4060 or even seen one in person.

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I have a 4050 and think it does a good job in a basically uncolored way .. how does the 4047 compare ??
The 4047 is more colored. Its darker. I only have 3 condensers right now--u89 being the other. I use the 4050 most frequently, but the 4047 certainly has its place.
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Other end of the spectrum if you ask me! No better just two different sounds!
Fair enough. But, personally, I look for clarity and openness in a $700 vocal mic and the AT 4047 doesn't have that. The MA-201 fet does, however. Perhaps the 4047 was designed to sound a bit "neutral."

It seems to me that a lot of hi-end tube condenser mics sound fairly neutral, but capture a TON of sonic information.
Old 2nd February 2013
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Don't confuse clarity with lots of high end and a papery midrange.
Old 2nd February 2013
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Ive had my 4047 for about 6 months now and i dont think i'd want to swap it for anything. Just used one today on pretty much everything and got a great tone on acoustic guitar and vocals. I find it works so well on a range of sources that its almost impossible to sound awful. It's midrange character lets it fit into a mix quite nicely. I use it with a Daking MP1 pre. Its darker than most mic (esp for the price range) but i see this as a huge advantage for taming sound sources. Not tried the 4060 but i bet its sweet sounding, as most of the AT line is.
Old 2nd February 2013
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Depends on what style or vibe you want from vocals . I have both the At4050 and 4047 - I use the 4050 as my main vocal mics for all styles i do . It is an excellent mic that has no sharpness to it . Most of the vocals I just do a hi pass filter on it and compress and it fits perfectly in the mix .
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Don't confuse clarity with lots of high end and a papery midrange.
The Quandry of Wittgenstein's "Beatle in The Box" .. Someone else's version of Clarity will always be different than your version of Clarity ..
Old 2nd February 2013
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The AT4047 was just right for a friend of mine with a very gravelly, rough voice. Have not seen or used a 4060.
Old 2nd February 2013
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I like the 4047 as a drum overhead. Its a nice mic and between those two choices, its the one I would keep.
Old 3rd February 2013
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Best answer so far...

Get both 4060, 4047, AND MA-201!heh

IMHO all three have the kind of vocal mojo I like on me.

But if I HAD to pick one, it'd be the MA-201, yep for most "detailed".

Chris
Old 3rd February 2013
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I have the both the AT4050 and AT4047 and they are used all the time. I have also used the AT4060 before.

As stated before the 4060 is more on the transparent side. I actually was thinking about picking up one and then got swayed towards the Miktek CV4, which is a killer mic.

The 4047 is more colored. I like to use mine as overheads or fok. I've used it on vocals, but prefer the 4050 between the two.

IMO you can't go wrong. Audio Technica makes great mics for the cost. They are definitely workhorses for me.
Old 3rd February 2013
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If you looking for a mic for one voice find a way to demo till you find one that gives you want! For a commercial room find what works, but there is never one magic mic!
Old 4th February 2013
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Here is a band I produced last year , I tracked the vocal with an AT4050 into a BAE 1073 into SSL compressor XR618 . The only eq with a HI pass and maybe a slight notch around 3k from what I remember . This mic works very well in a mix
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