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affordable LD condensors
Old 10th September 2002
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affordable LD condensors

Hello all,

What do you folks think are some worthy large diaphragm condensor mics in the well-under $1000 category? (Rode, Studio Projects, others) Anything that really stands out? Anything to stay away from?

Thanks,
Jonah
Old 11th September 2002
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Jonah, leave further information on the planned use(s) of any microphones, along with what kind of mic pre you're presently
using. Then the members here can give you better advice.

Chris
Old 11th September 2002
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I'm digging the BLUE Baby Bottle a ton, as well as a pair of the new AT4040's - great stuff for the $$
Old 11th September 2002
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Personally I think the Neumann TLM103, and the BLUE Baby bottle are the best LD Condensers under $1000. They are very different enough from each other sonically to justify owning them both. YMMV.
Old 11th September 2002
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Hey, Nathan, are you off of the Rode NTK? For a while there you seemed to champion it over the TLM-103.

How much is "well under $1000", jajjguy?

Bear
Old 12th September 2002
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Cad M-9
Groove Tubes 67

Some of the best out there for the money.

I've been really into those mics and with carefull shopping you can get both for about $1000.
Old 12th September 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by Gone Fission
Hey, Nathan, are you off of the Rode NTK?
No, I still think it's a pretty good microphone especially when coupled with a quality preamp. But after a lot of experimentation head to head I prefer the TLM103 better, especially considering it's supposed to be a 'utility' mic. Things like toms, male background & bass amp is where I would tend to put the TLM in a pinch and on those things it sounds better to me than the NTK. The TLM 103 seems to have better mids & lows, the highs sound more natural too. The highs on the NTK tend to be too extended overall for my tastes (which are always evolving to an extent). I suppose it still has it's place, but there's better bang for the buck IMO. The Baby Bottle is just completely different...it's got an upside down smiley face freq response with a little boost in the mids.
Old 12th September 2002
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I'll agree with the Baby Bottle and TLM 103 comments. Both are great mics with a totally different sound. I also like some of the AT40 series mics. The 4050 is nice and the 4047 is yet a totally different sound. No comments on the Studio Projects stuff. Alan was in town and we were supposed to connect so I could get the mics but it never happened...
Old 12th September 2002
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You seriously can not go wrong with either a baby bottle or a Neumann TLM 103, which i prefer over u87 in most cases except electric GTR..

Anther contender which is not often mentioned is the Microtech Geffel series of LARGE DIAPRAGM condensers.... They really are great for the $$ and i often buy them for my customers in preference to Neumann's. Their are still made in Germany and make the most reputable replica of the revered M7 capsule around (U47 capsule).

I am not sure how readily avaialable they are int he states but definately worth checking out. The new 900 series of mics are fantasticly good for the $$ and have taken preference for me in the OH roles.... the c414s are back in the cupboard for now till i get bored again..lol

Makesure that you dont skimp on at least ONE decent mic as it will be with you for far longer thana **** one and you will onyl end up cursing yourself you didnt got hat little bit extra in the first instance.

PEACE
Wiggy
Old 12th September 2002
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At the risk of being bitch-slapped:

I am fond of my ADK 'Area 51' mics...of course they don't work for everything, nothing does, but they seem better suited to a lot of things than anything else I have...also, I have an AT3035 that just blows everything else out of the water for male baritone vocals....
Old 12th September 2002
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It's about a grand and it's small diaphragm but I think the most bang for the buck in a condenser mike today has to be a Schoepps. Until very recently these went for the same price as a U-87 and nobody blinked at paying that much.
Old 12th September 2002
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Thanks for the suggestions, guys. I've got a 414B-ULS right now, that's my only good mic, and a C1000 and an EV dynamic for support. I record mainly small acoustic ensemble stuff, including cello (my instrument), viola, guitar (acoustic and electric), some vocs. I run everything through the pre's in my MIO firewire interface, into DP.

As for the vague "well-under $1000" price range, well, i figure I could spend up to, say $800 or so, maybe $1000, but i'd rather get more than one mic for that, if possible. That's why I asked about the real bargain stuff, Rode and SP. I'd love to get a pair of NT5s and a decent LD condensor for $1000, but i don't know if it's possible. What do you all think?

Thanks again,
Jonah
Old 12th September 2002
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One more thing: I like the 414 a lot, but I consider it a utility mic. Good on everything, great on nothing, has very little character. So I'd like my next mic to have some character, hopefully warmer sounding than the very dry, sometimes thin 414.

Thanks,
Jonah
Old 12th September 2002
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People haven't been plugging them much lately, but there's always the Sound Room's matched stereo pairs of MC-012's with a Lomo large diaphragm head. You might opt for T.H.E.'s instead, brought to you by Taylor, the same guy behind the Sound Room. Same idea, modular mic bodies and capsules with many small diaphragm and a couple large diaphragm heads. I'd really think your applications would generally suggest small diaphragm condensors in most cases, with the occaisional large diaphragm for vocals.

If you want a seperate big dog and a pair of small diaphragm condensors, you may want to wait until after AES to see how the Studio Projects modular ones compare to the competition. I'd be hard pressed to recomend a single one vocal mic with your remaining budget, though.

Bear
Old 12th September 2002
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Shure KSM44
Old 13th September 2002
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Jonah, you could also consider sending your 414 to Jim Williams
at www.audioupgrades.com to do his modification on them.
There should be enough $ left over to get another nice microphone if you still need/want another one.

Has anyone here tried Audio Upgrades for anything?

Chris
Old 13th September 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by chessparov
Has anyone here tried Audio Upgrades for anything
I have a pair of Jim Williams modified KM86's, also have 3 x stock KM84's. I think I'm going to get the KM86's put back to stock.
Old 13th September 2002
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Jim Williams kindly explained that sending my SM57 for modding would drop its sensitivity by 12db, and they do that for
extra LOUD sources like drums-not vocals.
He's a big fan of the EV RE20 BTW for vocals.

Chris
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