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Old 18th September 2012
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I need advice for a great pair of Monitors, Please Help

Hi,
I want to say that I used in the last 4 years many speakers, all at the end gave me good results and translated my mixes pretty well, but I had several issues with them...and did not enjoy them so much for many reasons:

Focal Twins, confused my brain , phasy low mids and everyday they sounded worst.

Tannoys: Harsh and thin.

Pelonis 4288: they lack low mids, bad center image and are a bit bright...great subs tho.

PSI: too dark..great somewhere else and lack sub info.

Equator D5: too bright!!!

I used Genelec 1033 ...did not like those...


I heard the PCM AML2: Great but very expensive :(


Anybody have some suggestions??

I want a speaker with great resolution , that is not overly bright, with great low mids and sub, great stereo image where the center is clear in the spectrum and NOT HYPED in any Freq range.

Budget 4K max
Old 18th September 2012
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Budget?
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Budget?
4k max,
Old 18th September 2012
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After an exausting 2 month search I learned that one of the cheapest monitors I listened to was the most revealing. Tascam vla. I went with the 8 inch woofer because I didnt want to spring for a sub. They were not the best sounding. I found numerous others that sounded better but none were more articulate or revealed more. During the search I found a couple of other good ones Yamaha etc but they all cost more.

Good luck in your search but remember good sound is not what your looking for. Accuracy is the name of the game when it comes to monitors.
Old 18th September 2012
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yes, I think I have to listen to all...
Old 18th September 2012
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I have Equator Q8. I know you do not like D5. Basically it's drivers are small. I move from MSP 7 to Q8. The extra few hz down is really important for me. I can add a sub, but I really don't like the idea. Q8 can be bright or not depending on the material.
Old 18th September 2012
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if you are finding some of those speakers you mentioned are too bright, then i would suggest looking at monitors with soft dome tweeters.

ATC SCM 16 [may not go as low as you would like]
PMC TBS2aii
Dynaudio BM15a

or perhaps Klein and Hummel 0300's though i think they are metal domes
Old 18th September 2012
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I was recently given this advice by an amazing engineer, concerning this price range, including the amp: ATC SCM 20 (maybe he said 16?) or B&W 805
Old 18th September 2012
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bluesky prodesk?

once you get them setup right :D
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It is hard to find a really , well balanced sounding speaker!
Old 18th September 2012
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I'd suggest just building your own ATC SCM 50's.

K50

add a nice second hand Bryston 4B amp and you wont ever need to upgrade
Old 18th September 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ToneRexx ➑️
Hi,
I want to say that I used in the last 4 years many speakers, all at the end gave me good results and translated my mixes pretty well, but I had several issues with them...and did not enjoy them so much for many reasons:

Focal Twins, confused my brain , phasy low mids and everyday they sounded worst.

Tannoys: Harsh and thin.

Pelonis 4288: they lack low mids, bad center image and are a bit bright...great subs tho.

PSI: too dark..great somewhere else and lack sub info.

Equator D5: too bright!!!

I used Genelec 1033 ...did not like those...


I heard the PCM AML2: Great but very expensive :(


Anybody have some suggestions??

I want a speaker with great resolution , that is not overly bright, with great low mids and sub, great stereo image where the center is clear in the spectrum and NOT HYPED in any Freq range.

Budget 4K max
You don't say what currency your "4k" is - but your spelling of "center" instead of "centre" leads me to suspect you may be in the USA ???

Within that price range (and what I use) are the ME Geithain RL906.


(Click thumbnail for full-size image - these are my monitors and I took the photo)

I think these will do what you want if you give them a good try. But face them forward and don't toe them in.

They will be reviewed in the November issue of Sound On Sound which will be in the shops next month.

The MO-2 is a bit larger.



All ME Geithain monitors sound the same - from the smallest to the largest - the only real difference is that the large units sound more "effortless" and have a greater bass extension.

The largest monitors (RL-944K upwards) have a cardioid response so they do not go omni at low frequencies like other monitors and therefor edon't excite room nodes at bass frequencies.
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Thanks John,

Where can I find pricing??

The big issue is that most speakers are overly bright, also lack low-mid info(big hole in that area) and poor L C R separation.
Old 18th September 2012
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I know they're not super high end, but I've been satisfied with my Mackie HR824MK2s.
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Old 18th September 2012
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what about Tridents or the new Genelecs?
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Thanks John,

Where can I find pricing??

The big issue is that most speakers are overly bright, also lack low-mid info(big hole in that area) and poor L C R separation.
You get pricing from the ME Geithain dealer in your country.

The Geithain monitors are adjustable - though (certainly with the RL906) you face them forward and not toe them in. This way they sound right and give a wide soundstage.

They are certainly not over bright and do not lack the info you require.
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what about Tridents or the new Genelecs?
Well, I like the Trident HG3's, but I'm biased as hell. Haven't heard the new Genelecs, but I'm sure they're great too.
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