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Old 8th September 2002
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Great River MP 2NV Mercenary Edition

I have read that they sound great. I'm getting to try one out for a week or so. Anyone tried or own one of these puppies? Tips and/or feedback from users would be apprecaited. It sure looks nice in my rack. Kind of fills up that empty space.
Old 8th September 2002
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Re: Great River MP 2NV Mercenary Edition

Quote:
Originally posted by Bernard
I have read that they sound great. I'm getting to try one out for a week or so. Anyone tried or own one of these puppies? Tips and/or feedback from users would be apprecaited. It sure looks nice in my rack. Kind of fills up that empty space.
Remember to experiment with both the impedance and loading switches. For more character, turn the big knob up and the little knob down. For Try the DI - it's marvelous.

If you run into Dan Kennedy at a trade show (or boating on the Mississippi), buy him a beer for making such a cool box. If you run into Rupert Neve, buy him some barbecue for inspiring such a cool box.
Old 13th September 2002
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Bernard, the GR MP-2NV is great mic pre and you will NOT be disappointed when you get a chance to give it a spin.

The NV as a first call mic pre the one I reach for first. Give me a couple of decent mics and a NV and you have a world class front end. Of course a nice room and talent musician don't hurt.

The GR is very versatle especially when using the DI input. You can drive the input into slight saturation and it gives a really nice sound.

I do a lot stereo stuff so the MP-2NV is my first choice but in the next few weeks we will have the MP-1 available. This is a single channel NV and will come in at $975.

MP-1NV Photo

Bernard, I would love to hear your thoughts after you get your hands on the NV. How about dropping me note with your review.

Lee
Old 13th September 2002
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Great River gonna get you

Dan Kennedy loaned me an NV for about 5 weeks. I guess you get your first "fix" for free.

Bernard, you are going to get hooked just like I did. Talk about rock solid. Full, fat, and juicy. Metering that is truly useful. The NV instantly makes you a better engineer just like great talent does. Suddenly it's easy to get great sounds. Vocals and bass tracks to die for. Killer guitars. You'll love it. Prepare to acquire as you are about to get severe G.A.S.

Wurly/5 miles from Great River
Old 18th September 2002
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Bernard πŸŽ™οΈ
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I need it. I want It.

I just spent a week tracking guitars through the Great River MP 2nv. I believe I recorded the best guitar sounds that I have ever done in my little studio. Just my srtat with kinman pickups with a little compression and through the mp 2nv and it sounds great. Bad news is I had to take it back today and I'm not finished my session. I would have loved to use it to track vocals. Maybe another time. I'm starting to scheme on how I can get my hands on one. maybe i can trade c12 vr or my mpc 2000. Hmmmm........
grggt
Old 18th September 2002
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Gear Nut
 
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I also have the NV.

It is BY FAR my favorite pre for recording electric guitars.
I also find it quite versatile;what everyone says about the gain knob
is true.Between that and the meters(AND your ears)you can really dial in
more or less color.
AND,the impedence switch makes a tangible difference not only with ribbons.

Great gear like that can make one happy
Old 19th September 2002
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mantovibe...have you compared it to the APi 512/3124 for guitars??
Old 19th September 2002
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I never have liked API on electric guitars. It's not horrible, but the frequencies don't compliment the same way a 'Neve' preamp does. That's why IMO anyway, something like a Phoenix DRS-2, Great River NV or Vintech 1272 would be top choice. Same goes for kick drum and toms, never liked API on those either, it doesn't have the same low end character.
Old 20th September 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by MIKEHARRIS
mantovibe...have you compared it to the APi 512/3124 for guitars??
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Yes and while I like the API I prefer the sound of the NV
for the way I play and set my amps.
With the NV I can set my amps a little brighter.
Especially my Matchless.
On the other end , Mike Landau gets killer,beautiful sounds
using the API.
Old 20th September 2002
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I find the API overtone - magical - a sort of compressed sheen.

I just did kick snare & bass with 1073's on a project... now, in the gtr phase, I feel I want to hop over to API (reminded / inspired by an article of Fletchers) ashley.

I dont know the GR unit, but I am sure it is great.

yuktyy
Old 20th September 2002
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How about API on Snare and Neve on kick...that's what I would personally prefer most.
Old 20th September 2002
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I agree on kick there is better than API - I go for Neve or Helios usually.

Snare on API is also Phat & compressed...

Old 20th September 2002
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I know quite a few people that prefer API to Neve for kick and snare. I'd go with Neve on kick and API for snare myself but neither one sucks. I actually like the Daking on snare but the last time out I used them for overheads and was pretty happy. I might do that again.
Old 24th September 2002
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Gear Head
 
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hi
i am on the point to choose between the great river mp2nv and the phoenix audio drs2
has anyone compared these 2 babies ?
does anyone knows the pros and the cons of these 2 units ?
thanx
Old 24th September 2002
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I know I'm breaking recording rule #1 by not using something that says Neve on it while hitting the rec. button, (call me a rebel) but I love my API 3124's on ebbything.


Old 24th September 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by zarathoustra
hi
i am on the point to choose between the great river mp2nv and the phoenix audio drs2
has anyone compared these 2 babies ?
does anyone knows the pros and the cons of these 2 units ?
thanx
Obviously both of these are great sounding mic pres and you would love either one. The Phoenix is not a Neve design so therefore it has its own sound/color. It tends to be more transparent than the Great River.

The Great River MP-2NV (and now the new MP-1NV) is a 1073 design which puts it firmly in the Neve sounding camp. The NV is in NO way dark sounding and it is as smooth as it gets. There is a long list of engineers who consider the GR a first call mic pre and I am one of them.

From a features stand point the GR has a number of nice capabilities, such as the dual led vu meter (input/output) and the signal Insert jacks. This is great for using a compressor with the GR. There is also a GR EQ unit in the works that will make the NV a complete Neve 1073 design.

For electric guitar, bass, vocals the Great River would be my choice. Add a Buzz or a Millienia or some other clear, transparent "wire with gain" sounding pre and there is no situation where you can't get a sound that will fit in any mix.

Lee
Old 26th September 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by bassmac
I love my API 3124's on ebbything.
Wow! I don't like anything on everything...
Old 26th September 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by NathanEldred
How about API on Snare and Neve on kick...that's what I personally prefer.
i prefer the crane song flamingo on both.

so what is everyone thinking about this impedance thing... i just got a pre that has switchable impedance and i am finding the lower the impedance, the more open the sound is... i havent run ALL my mics through it yet to hear the differences of them all, but damn... i think pre's need to be lower in impedance if the rest of my mic collection sounds as good as the ones i have put through at a lower impedance.
Old 27th September 2002
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I found that in playing with the impedance settings on the MP-2NV that the difference was negligible on some mics. However, the mics that sounded different sounded better to me at the lower impedance settings. My SM7 in particular really opened up.

My completely non-scientific speculation is that because frequency response is dependent upon impedance, as the impedance is lowered, the high frequency response is extended/accentuated, giving some mics a more 'open sound'.

Whatever the case may be it's a great feature and my favorite pre at the moment.

- jon
Old 27th September 2002
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Gear Head
 
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Jon, the NV is very versatile in this respect. I have also found the load switch to be very useful as well.

But one of my favorite sounds is the ability to drive the input into satuation and bring down the output. I have been able to get some great sounding guitars and bass by using the DI.

I have to agree its pleasure to put the output of the Great River on about any instrument you are tracking.

Lee
Old 27th September 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by cymatics
My completely non-scientific speculation is that because frequency response is dependent upon impedance, as the impedance is lowered, the high frequency response is extended/accentuated, giving some mics a more 'open sound'.
Dan Kennedy once explained to me that it is actually the other way around. Higher imp=extended high end, while lower impedence means less high-end. Too low, and the low end even starts dropping off and the midrange is exaggerated.

This all comes with the disclaimer, of course, that different mics are more or less sensitive to loading (some dynamics and most ribbons being the most -- most modern condensers being the least).
Old 28th September 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by zarathoustra
hi
i am on the point to choose between the great river mp2nv and the phoenix audio drs2
has anyone compared these 2 babies ?
does anyone knows the pros and the cons of these 2 units ?
thanx
Both are solid great sounding units. I would say the Phoenix is a little airier and clearer overall, and the NV is fatter and more aggressive. Both compliment each other well, as does the Vintech X73 which is somewhat like an airier NV to my ears with slightly less bottom (The Vintech 1272 sounds like it has more bottom to my ears than the X73). There are some suprises from Vintech this year @ AES, stay tuned....
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