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Old 18th May 2006
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new to samples, -need advise

hello.
I am on a protools LE 7.1 system on mac os 10.4

I am just starting to get curious about samples and virtual instuments. I would like to start out with some vintage sounding synths (yes, i know if you want it, you need the real thing) I'm looking mostly for background type stuff and ambience.

I would also like to make some loops of different sounds (sound designer type stuff) for background noises.

so what do you reccomend for sample newbie. I have made a lot of records but all rock stuff and have never had a need for this kind of thing.
thanks for any advise.
-jeff
Old 18th May 2006
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check out arturia.com they have some vintage synth emuation.

also native instruments Komplete 3 might be more than enough for all your vintage, sound loop mangeler and way more. its a package offered by nativeinstrument.com
and come with a lot of synths and a cool sampler (Kontakt 2)
vocoder , spektral delay.


GRM soundtoys for loop fx.
check out

spectrasonics also is cool
Old 18th May 2006
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Originally Posted by Jeff16years
hello.
I am on a protools LE 7.1 system on mac os 10.4

I am just starting to get curious about samples and virtual instuments. I would like to start out with some vintage sounding synths (yes, i know if you want it, you need the real thing) I'm looking mostly for background type stuff and ambience.

I would also like to make some loops of different sounds (sound designer type stuff) for background noises.

so what do you reccomend for sample newbie. I have made a lot of records but all rock stuff and have never had a need for this kind of thing.
thanks for any advise.
-jeff
I know three good sounding packages:

Synthogy Ivory (acoustic piano, as solo or as pad element)
Native Instruments Elektrik Piano (fender rhodes, as pad element)
Spectrasonics Trilogy (bass guitar, as bass element)

I haven't found any good sounding drums though...

In terms of a big package of everything, check out the Virtual Instrument of the year:
Quantum Leap Colossus

Good luck!

Check out the organ in this demo and you'll realise the samples in the Colossus were very well sampled...
http://www.soundsonline.com/cd_mp3_demos/210448.mp3
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In addition to the excellent suggestions above, check out the following:

Vintage Synth Emulations

Gmedia (Arp Odyssey, MiniMoog, Mellotron, OSCar)
Way Out Ware (Arp 2600)
General Vibe (Prophet VS)
Korg (Wavestation, PolySix, MS-20)
Native Instruments (Prophet 5, DX7)
Arturia (MiniMoog, Moog Modular, CS-80, Arp 2600)

These are cool if you're really looking for a sound and programming interface that closely approximates the classic synths.

Sampled Synths

Spectrasonic Atmosphere
USB UltraFocus
IK SampleTank
Sonic Reality SonikSynth
EastWest Vapor
Zero-G Morphology, Outer Limits, Nostalgia

Although they all offer some level of tweaking and personalizing, these focus on providing the user a diverse library of track-ready presets.

Modern Hybrid Synths

MOTU MX4
NI Absynth
Rob Papen Blue, Albino
u-he Zebra

These synths all do a good job of combining a variety of synthesis techniques (subtractive, FM, amplitude/ring modulation, wavetable/wave sequencing) and modulation options into a single, straightforward programming interface. Any of these would make for a good main synth for people into creating their own sounds.
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thanks guys.
i'm looking in to all of these

i'll let you know what I find out
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Also, you might wanna grab Digidesign Xpand if it wasn't bundled with your system - it's free anyway, and has some nice sounds.
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Also, you might wanna grab Digidesign Xpand if it wasn't bundled with your system - it's free anyway, and has some nice sounds.
just ordered it right before i read your post, thanks !!
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I'm using the OP-X from SonicProjects (http://www.sonicprojects.ch/) since a while - it's a fantasctic sounding synth - it emulates an old Oberheim (found it via I SATELLITE)

for mac it's only for reaktor 5 - I'm glad that the 5.1 version works in protools 7 now (had troubles before) - I mainly use it on my powerbook with mbox

I see that they released a vst version for PC now - unfortunately there's no rtas for mac - they told me that there won't be too a one in the near future - but fortunately it works great in the current configuration
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hello
So I am really considering this Quantum Leap Colossus
anyone have any experiance with it? I am able to use it on Protools LE right?


thanks
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Best softsynths IMHO:
Gmedia ImpOscar
Korg wavestation, MS-20
Emagic ES-1
Absynth
Reaktor
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Originally Posted by RainbowStorm
I haven't found any good sounding drums though...
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DFHS/Custom&Vintage, BFD, Scarbee Imperial...??
for loops and grooves, Spectrasonics Stylus RMX
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forgot the WayOutWare TimeWarp - but it's a cpu hog...
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so any one have any experience with Quantum Leap Colossus.
is it compatable with Protools LE?
thanks
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so any one have any experience with Quantum Leap Colossus.
is it compatable with Protools LE?
thanks
I don't have any real life experiences with this package, but from what I've read and heard you can't really go wrong with Colossus. Did you hear the organ in the demo I posted? That is the best organ I've ever heard coming from a sampler... Imagine what happens when you run that organ through a leslie cab...!

It IS compatible with Protools LE... (RTAS)

But this package is mostly for movie soundtracks, it contains a lot of various intruments, mostly instruments belonging to the pad element. The price is 995 $.
For this price you can get a few great packages like Synthogy Ivory and AAS Modeling Collection. I would think twice...!
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Originally Posted by RainbowStorm
I don't have any real life experiences with this package, but from what I've read and heard you can't really go wrong with Colossus. Did you hear the organ in the demo I posted? That is the best organ I've ever heard coming from a sampler... Imagine what happens when you run that organ through a leslie cab...!

It IS compatible with Protools LE... (RTAS)

But this package is mostly for movie soundtracks, it contains a lot of various intruments, mostly instruments belonging to the pad element. The price is 995 $.
For this price you can get a few great packages like Synthogy Ivory and AAS Modeling Collection. I would think twice...!
yes, I did hear that organ, pretty cool. it would be great through a leslie.

thanks for the help.
BTW there a few of the Colossus on ebay for about 100 bucks????
are they bootlegs or something??

is it illegal to but that kind of thing on ebay, it looks legit.

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yes, I did hear that organ, pretty cool. it would be great through a leslie.

thanks for the help.
BTW there a few of the Colossus on ebay for about 100 bucks????
are they bootlegs or something??

is it illegal to but that kind of thing on ebay, it looks legit.

Bootleg or not, I would treat it as a buying opportunity. Ebay is the company that takes profit from persons selling their stuff. It's NOT the buyer's responsibility to be an expert of what's illegal of ebay's products and what's not. When a product is illegal, the buyer should blame Ebay for not having informed him about it. Save the receipt in case you would get trouble with legit issues in the future.
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