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Old 4th July 2014 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by Studerfreak ➡️
What microphone are we talking about ?
Are you sure it is a 5 pin connector ?
Photograph would help to determine what Tuchel connector you have on the microphone now.
That is because there are different types of Tuchel connectors, also in the three pin version.
Maybe you have experience with Nagra/Studer 5 pin inputs/outputs?
Old 4th July 2014
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Try the BINDER 680 series.
Or Tuchel/Amphenol T 3504 001.

Wrong types I see now….!
Your Stellavox does not have screw type connectors, but bayonet types.
I will look if I can find these for you.

Found the Amphenol/Tuchel: series C091B (bayonet) and Binder type 678.

Last edited by Studerfreak; 4th July 2014 at 09:38 PM.. Reason: typing error
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Maybe you have experience with Nagra/Studer 5 pin inputs/outputs?
What do you mean ? What Nagra and what Studer 5 pin in-/outputs ?
Any piece of equipment in particular ??
They are practically all different, you see....
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What do you mean ? What Nagra and what Studer 5 pin in-/outputs ?
Any piece of equipment in particular ??
They are practically all different, you see....
Hi again and thanks for your help.

Sorry, I got mixed up with Nagra and Studer.
The Stellavox mixer was designed to go with Nagra recorders.
Yes, nothing to do with Studer!

I thought the tuchel inputs on the Stellavox are screw-in type. I'm wrong?
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I thought the tuchel inputs on the Stellavox are screw-in type. I'm wrong?
Looking at your photographs I see notches on the left- and right hand side of the connector.
So I think you are wrong indeed.
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These are the "Tuchel connector questionPreh" twist-lock DIN connectors, as also used on the Uher tape recorder.

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The PREH's will fit !
You could consider this as a low cost version from the Binder or Amphenol/Tuchel connectors.
Quality is very good: I still use these with my UHER 4000 Report.
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The PREH's will fit !
You could consider this as a low cost version from the Binder or Amphenol/Tuchel connectors.
Quality is very good: I still use these with my UHER 4000 Report.
Thanks John and Studerfreak.

So I'm wrong again more palmface

Actually I have some of those tuchel connectors John posted earlier. Do I wire them up the same way as the M69N (6) diagram above even though they're 5 pin?
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Do I wire them up the same way as the M69N (6) diagram above even though they're 5 pin?
Yes indeed.
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Yes indeed.
Thank you
Old 6th July 2014 | Show parent
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The PREH's will fit !
It's not actually a case of "The PREH's will fit" - the sockets pictured ARE Preh sockets and are specifically designed for Preh plugs.

They are different from Tuchel (which use a screw-on DIN connector).


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Originally Posted by Studerfreak ➡️
You could consider this as a low cost version from the Binder or Amphenol/Tuchel connectors.
Not sure I agree with this - basically, both Preh and Tuchel looked into making more professional, metal bodied, lockable versions of the standard DIN connector.

Preh went for a twist-lock which is fully compatible with non-locking and Tuchel sockets (though it will only lock in a Preh socket).

Tuchel went for a screw lock which is probably the more secure, but I think less compatible.
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Originally Posted by John Willett ➡️
It's not actually a case of "The PREH's will fit" - the sockets pictured ARE Preh sockets and are specifically designed for Preh plugs.

They are different from Tuchel (which use a screw-on DIN connector).




Not sure I agree with this - basically, both Preh and Tuchel looked into making more professional, metal bodied, lockable versions of the standard DIN connector.

Preh went for a twist-lock which is fully compatible with non-locking and Tuchel sockets (though it will only lock in a Preh socket).

Tuchel went for a screw lock which is probably the more secure, but I think less compatible.
Thanks John
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Do some of you know a link where I can see how to unscrew a female u47 Tuchel connector for soldering nieuw wires to this.
Old 30th June 2018
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Unscrew the part marked with the red arrow.
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Unscrew the part marked with the red arrow.
Thanks .. case closed..
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Yeah, be VERY careful with those connectors, as they're becomming impossible to replace... and IF you do find them, they're upwards of $500-$700 each!!! Had to look for some for some old EMT 140 plates and the experience wasn't fun AT ALL!!!
That's not exactly 500-700! Just bought one new a few years ago for my old Sennheisers and Beyerdynamics. 10 meters are 5 bucks more. Might be easier to order them from Germany, 'cause these connections were wide spread here and a lot of folks still have zillions of these old mics laying around.


pro snake 17852/SW 5m Tuchel – Thomann UK

This might be interesting for some folks, too:

Sennheiser XLR-Connector f. MD 421 / 441 – Thomann UK

I know the case is closed, but just in case people with tuchel-problems read this thread...
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That's not exactly 500-700! Just bought one new a few years ago for my old Sennheisers and Beyerdynamics. 10 meters are 5 bucks more. Might be easier to order them from Germany, 'cause these connections were wide spread here and a lot of folks still have zillions of these old mics laying around.


pro snake 17852/SW 5m Tuchel – Thomann UK

This might be interesting for some folks, too:

Sennheiser XLR-Connector f. MD 421 / 441 – Thomann UK

I know the case is closed, but just in case people with tuchel-problems read this thread...
The connectors you now link to are quite different from the large multipin Tuchel connector as used on the U47's.
And these are getting more and more expensive.

The link to the Sennheiser conversion kit is very usefull for owners now having an MD421 with "small Tuchel" or DIN connector.
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Thanks .. case closed..
Meaning connector opened, wires (re-)soldered, connector closed, case closed ??
Old 30th June 2018 | Show parent
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The connectors you now link to are quite different from the large multipin Tuchel connector as used on the U47's.
And these are getting more and more expensive.

The link to the Sennheiser conversion kit is very usefull for owners now having an MD421 with "small Tuchel" or DIN connector.
Sorry for this, I ignored the Neumann-case. Just related to the initial posting about Beyerdynamic.
The large Amphenol tuchels are 240,- here in Germany.

Amphenol Tuchel 6 Pol Kabelbuchse T3038-010 fur Neumann U47/U48 NEU | Steckverbinder fur Mikrofone | Steckverbinder | Hardware L-Z | Hardware | SonicWorld Audio Shop
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