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ADR Stereo Compex Thoughts?
Old 22nd August 2002
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ADR Stereo Compex Thoughts?

I've got a chance to trade my 160VU's for a Compex in almost mint shape. Now, don't get me wrong I like the 160VU's for certain things but outside of snare, kick, drum sub and bass they don't get used much. Maybe as the second compressor in a vocal chain. I have used the Compex before with one channel on a vocal and the other on bass. Overall I've heard great things about them and I know some people really like them on the 2-buss. What else are they good on? Keep in mind I'm working on mostly rock & organic flavored stuff. No pop or hip-hop spoken here.
Old 22nd August 2002
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Are the the ADR compressor relation to the Vocal Stressor? 60 something?

If so,

I think you will love em..

I am convinced they played a part in the JJPuig Jellyfish 'hillaro-squash' drum sound.

Drum room will flip out

Fast grab like an SSL

Great for **** at mixdown..

Only drawback is the release tends to 'flutter' on extreme settings, prhaps not as creamy as a distressor but you can deal...

Sell you 160's to Jon he is addicted!

Old 22nd August 2002
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I owned both the Compex and a Vocal Stressor a while back.

Honestly, I loved them both. The Compex will put that "snap" on the front end of things like few other comps. I used to use it on stereo acoustic piano for that very punchy pop sound, among other things.

A little touchy to learn and set, but well worth the effort, IMO.

Brian T
Old 22nd August 2002
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Ok, how about overall usefulness of the 160's vs. the Compex? I'm pretty sure I'd dig it but since I got the 160VUs for a great price I'd hate to give them up and then regret it. Keep in mind I have to keep other engineers happy too.
Old 22nd August 2002
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The Compex is a bit touchy. You have to learn it a bit to do any good with it/

The 160VU is nearly idiot proof for what it does. Very different that way.

For all around multi users, maybe keep the 160's?

BT
Old 22nd August 2002
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160's look cool

ADR - looks - like you need to know it well / kinda unimpressive

Caught between a Rock & a Hard Disc Place?

Old 22nd August 2002
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if i remember..the compex does expand, unity,compress,limit...but the threshold for the limiter is fixed...so you have to bring the body of the signal up to its threshold...a bit confusing. there may be other boxes with similar sound...but the 160vu is unique.
Old 25th July 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Kahrs ➑️
I've got a chance to trade my 160VU's for a Compex in almost mint shape. Now, don't get me wrong I like the 160VU's for certain things but outside of snare, kick, drum sub and bass they don't get used much. Maybe as the second compressor in a vocal chain. I have used the Compex before with one channel on a vocal and the other on bass. Overall I've heard great things about them and I know some people really like them on the 2-buss. What else are they good on? Keep in mind I'm working on mostly rock & organic flavored stuff. No pop or hip-hop spoken here.
Dear Jay,
Sorry but only just come across your Post, but should you require any ADR Parts, Manuals or Servicing, or any support contact us, as we are appointed by ADR to supply support for any of their Classic Audio Gear.

By the way ADR are still making gear, and I do recomend their DMA-2, it has recieved some nice reviews
DMA-2

for one review
Audio & Design DMA2

and
Q. What's the best way to get audio into my portable recorder?

To help you further with your main question there are other ADR Threads which I hope will be helpful.

1 = https://www.gearslutz.com/board/high-end/3276-audio-design-760-x-rs-stereo-comp-2.html#post4380049

2 = https://www.gearslutz.com/board/high-end/37399-what-can-you-tell-me-about-adr-gear.html#post4374309

3 = https://www.gearslutz.com/board/geekslutz-forum/22158-adr-compex-problem.html

4 = https://www.gearslutz.com/board/high-end/78901-adr-compex.html

5 = https://www.gearslutz.com/board/high-end/27368-adr-compex-f760x-rs.html

6 = https://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/595-adr-stereo-compex-thoughts.html

7 = https://www.gearslutz.com/board/high-...ifference.html

Best Regards,

Tony.
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Old 26th July 2009 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jules ➑️
Are the the ADR compressor relation to the Vocal Stressor? 60 something?

If so,

I think you will love em..

I am convinced they played a part in the JJPuig Jellyfish 'hillaro-squash' drum sound.

Drum room will flip out

Fast grab like an SSL

Great for **** at mixdown..

Only drawback is the release tends to 'flutter' on extreme settings, prhaps not as creamy as a distressor but you can deal...

Sell you 160's to Jon he is addicted!

The Compex is a 2 channel compressor/limiter. The Vocal Stressor is one side of a Compex coupled to a parametric EQ.

It's a GREAT compressor. Wish I had one.......

I'd keep the 160s as well. Totally different beasts.
Old 26th July 2009 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jules ➑️
160's look cool

ADR - looks - like you need to know it well / kinda unimpressive

Caught between a Rock & a Hard Disc Place?

I completely disagree. The 160VU looks like a DBX compressor which ive seen a bazillion of over the years.

The Compex looks like one hell of a bad-a compressor with its Sifam collet knobs and Director series PPM meters.

FWIW i own an Orange County Electronics VSS which is a boutique, hand-built clone of the ADR Vocal Stressor. As John E. has stated, the Vocal Stressor is a mono Compex compressor mated to a 4 band parametric EQ. The EQ section is switchable to be before or after the comp, or to hit the comp's sidechain for frequency-conscious compression.

I also own an ADR Superdynamic limiter, and another Orange County unit, the VS-2 single channel compressor.

If i had two DBX 160VU's i would trade them in a heartbeat for a clean, working Compex.

One thing i might mention with the ADR gear is that servicing their stuff can be a problem. Some of the components are hard to find, especially here in the US. So, make sure its a good clean one before you pull the trigger, if you decide to go for it.

Also, David Kulka out of California does servicing and overhauling of ADR units. His shop is probably one of the only places in the US that i would send my ADR/OC units to for service, and in fact i plan on doing exactly that with the ADR Superdynamic as it is in need of some new pots.


EDIT: just noticed this is a super old thread. Oh well, i like talking about ADR gear. ;-)
Old 26th July 2009 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by larry b ➑️
I completely disagree. The 160VU looks like a DBX compressor which ive seen a bazillion of over the years.

One thing i might mention with the ADR gear is that servicing their stuff can be a problem. Some of the components are hard to find, especially here in the US. So, make sure its a good clean one before you pull the trigger, if you decide to go for it.

Also, David Kulka out of California does servicing and overhauling of ADR units. His shop is probably one of the only places in the US that i would send my ADR/OC units to for service, and in fact i plan on doing exactly that with the ADR Superdynamic as it is in need of some new pots.

EDIT: just noticed this is a super old thread. Oh well, i like talking about ADR gear. ;-)
Dear Larry,
I picked it up as well, only to find it an old thread, I was not sure whether to respond or not, but, from past experience, on this and other Forums, I have contacted a Thread Starter via email to let him or her know, although late, I have some information that might turn out to be of some help, most times it has proved worthwhile

So thanks for responding because I have sent Jay an email hoping it reaches him, and I am sure the info regarding David Kulka’s talents will be useful as well.

I have to say at this point that there is another guy in Detroit that has been appointed by ADR to handle the servicing of all their classic Audio Gear, Tim (Tim Mead) has been asked by ADR to remanufacture the Compex in all its ways whether it come in the form of a Vocal Stressor (F769X-R or the Compex itself (F760X-RS and of course both in the shape of the popular “N” type modules = E900N and F760N.

Also by ADR's permission we in turn are manufacturing the Helios Version of the F760, so much so we can supply any part required for both the F769X-R as well as The F760X-RS, which includes the original PCB’s. Of course we are based in Europe, but are in a position to supply the states when and if required.

Our contact is [email protected]
Tim’s contact is: www.q2audio.com

I have asked Jules if he could join all 7 ADR threads running at this presant time (See my Post above for the LINKS) so like yourself we can all enjoy talking about this classic ADR gear, whether it be Neg or positive, the more the better.

Best Regards,

Tony.
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www.helios-electronics.com
Old 29th July 2009 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by larry b ➑️
I
FWIW i own an Orange County Electronics VSS which is a boutique, hand-built clone of the ADR Vocal Stressor. . ;-)
Dear Larry,
Had a word with Ian at ADR about Orange County Electronics VSS, to make sure, but I think if you look inside the VSS, it is designed around Op-Amps where as the Compex F760 in any form is totally discrete as is the ADR Vocal Stressor.

I have never seen inside an Orange County Electronics VSS, but I think for any potentially interested party this point is an important factor.

But never the less it seems that you are very pleased with it, and there is a lot of gear around that is Op-Amp design, the Helios Type 76 to 79 sereis was based on op-amps one of the finest EQ's around.

The re-issue of the Helios F760 in Standard size as well as the API 500 Series Rack size, both will be totaly discrete, and Tim Mead's Version of the ADR-F760X-RS Compex and his version of the ADR-F769X-R (Vocal Stressor) both of these re-issues will also be totaly discrete

Best Regards,

Tony.
Tony Arnold (Director)
www.helios-electronics.com
Old 24th November 2009 | Show parent
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I've been away from this thread for a while and i just got around to reading the most recent posts. Here are some photos of the guts of my Orange County units. They certainly are not IC-based op-amp design, if that is what you mean.

The VS-2 Stressor (mono comp):



And the CLX or "Compex" module out of OC's version of the Vocal Stressor:





And one of the front of both units:



These things ROCK! (And yes, i know the EQ is missing a knob, it's actually been changed to a screw-pot by the prior owner who was incidentally, the United States Air Force. The back of the unit is engraved USAF)

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Old 24th November 2009 | Show parent
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Can anyone recommend a place/person in England to service/repair my Compex? Also have a Urie 1178 that needs a service.

I have found one guy who charges Β£35 p/h. Although this does not sound extortionate, Β£25 p/h would be better!

Thanks
Old 24th November 2009 | Show parent
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i have 2 Compex and had few more in past ..
keeped very low serial nr units ..


older units sound bit better to my ears

actually 2 compex modules i had in past with silver screws on front were transformerless and had sound i didnot like too much... too agressive!

and ones i have now are with older black front panel screws...they sound PERFECT!!!
just the way I want!!!

still all 3 cards in old and new units were same with few mods on latter revisions!!!

PSU looked bit better build on latter revision but early babies works perfect !!

Only Discrete electronics in old COMPEX BOXES!!!!

also scamps s01 , vocal stressors

latter compressorfrom adr were vca based... compex II, Superdynamic, S31 scamp module......

anyway

I LOVE COMPEX and SCAMP S01 modules
Old 24th November 2009 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Funk ➑️
Can anyone recommend a place/person in England to service/repair my Compex? Also have a Urie 1178 that needs a service.

I have found one guy who charges Β£35 p/h. Although this does not sound extortionate, Β£25 p/h would be better!

Thanks
whell I did it on my own

and its not easy job....actually calibration is pain!!
to clean all, recap, recalibrate unit it will take up to some 6-8 hours + parts

just to give you some orientation!!!
Old 24th November 2009 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by roginator ➑️
Only Discrete electronics in old COMPEX BOXES!!!!

also scamps s01 , vocal stressors

latter compressorfrom adr were vca based... compex II, Superdynamic, S31 scamp module......

anyway

I LOVE COMPEX and SCAMP S01 modules
So with you man! I just picked up a Scamp rack with 7 S01 comps in it and the Scamp Major power supply, recently serviced and recapped from a guy here on GS for a ridiculous (not mentionable) deal. I already had a Scamp system with a bunch of gates, and S07 octave EQ and one S01 comp, but i just couldnt pass up this deal. The seller told me that if i just wanted the modules alone, he would be throwing the rack and power supply in the trash. So in true gearslut fashion i pulled the trigger.

I'm setting up a "Super" Scamp rack right now, built out of the best of both systems. It's going to be housed in an 8 space custom rack from www.niceracks.com in a funky vintage green finish. It will be made up of 8 S01 comps, 5 F300 expander/gates, two S24 Time Shape modules and one S04 double-wide parametric EQ. So far i have everything except the S04.





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Old 24th November 2009 | Show parent
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WOW NICE


7 S01 ...killer!!!

congratulations!!!!

D
Old 24th November 2009 | Show parent
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.........
Old 24th November 2009 | Show parent
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Dude, personally i would not sell that rack.

Can't wait for my S04 btw hehheh
Old 24th November 2009 | Show parent
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I'm an ADR lover! I absolutely love and ADR stuff and scamp too. Those little S01 scamps are killer. I lucked out recently and got 3 Compex mono units for a steal. I had them serviced locally here in Canada by a guy who is extremely talented and now two of them are as close as possible for stereo work. I've been using them lately on the mix bus, using the auto release setting usually. The transformers are in a separate box so I can patch them in or out as I see fit. Often the transformers have been getting bypassed for mix bus duty. The 1176's are getting used less often for vocals now.
Old 24th November 2009 | Show parent
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i like sound of adr factory transformers.... but you just made me thinking to make switch to bypass them when I dont need them LOL

I used original 1176 just few times and owned UA 1176LN reissue...
I sold 1176LN reissue .. its shame to say that my aphex 661 sounded beter than 1176LN reissue

original 1176 are great BUT good calibrated and recaped CoMPEX is king!!!

and nothing can beat 4-6 scamps s01 on drums... Kick, Snare , toms than S25 ok hats and gates here and there ..KILLER TOOLS!!!!!!!

yeah as you see I luv em!!!!
Old 23rd January 2010 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Funk ➑️
Can anyone recommend a place/person in England to service/repair my Compex? Also have a Urie 1178 that needs a service.

I have found one guy who charges Β£35 p/h. Although this does not sound extortionate, Β£25 p/h would be better!

Thanks
Dear Mr Funk,
ADR Appointed Helios Electronics as the Service Centre for any ADR Classic Audio.
We cover the whole of Europe. and have most parts ex-stock.

[email protected]

Best Regards

Tony

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Old 8th April 2010 | Show parent
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i am selling my ADR F760x-RS Compex for 2400$ if anyone is interested

transformer Version includes WW shipping

sorry for the hijack... its also in the Classified
Old 16th September 2010 | Show parent
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adr compex 760x rs

Hey ion-five you still selling the ADR F760X-RS COMPEX ???
Old 1st August 2011 | Show parent
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Because I have owned my F760 Compex from new, and my companys is also the ADR recomended service workshop for Europe.
I am of course asking a high price for something that works as it should, Mine will be for sale very shortly.
The only reason for sale is because I will of course be using our new Helios Version in October.

Price = best offer at $3,000 or more.
My two Vocal Stressors will come up for sale around November

Please write to
[email protected]

Best Regards

Tony
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Helios Electronics Ltd.
Old 10th November 2011 | Show parent
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can somebody help:

we would like to bypass the our compex output transformers with a switch.
what is to be done ?

thanks a lot!
Old 10th November 2011 | Show parent
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also, we really could need a copy of the compex service manual.
i tried to contact mr arnold via the email adr aboce but could never get through to him as it seems...

thanks a lot again !
Old 11th November 2011 | Show parent
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can anybody help with this?

thanks !
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Dear TonStrom,
Quote:
Originally Posted by TonStrom ➑️
can somebody help:
we would like to bypass the our compex output transformers with a switch.
what is to be done ?
thanks a lot!
In answer to Quote-1
Yes this can be done, but I would require a couple of pictures taken from the inside of your compex.
As these were not always a Standard fitting

Quote:
Originally Posted by TonStrom ➑️
also, we really could need a copy of the compex service manual.
i tried to contact mr arnold via the email adr aboce but could never get through to him as it seems...
thanks a lot again !
In answer to Quote-2
Could you please send me an email to [email protected]
We do supply the manual as well as all parts for most ADR gear.
I am supprised that I never replied, but I would like you to tale on board just part of my day.
I run four websites:

(www.helios-electronics.com)
(www.ampex-uk.com)
(www.arnys-shack.com)
(www.cafe-au-go-go.com)


I use Thunderbird to collect my mail from these four sites, using the IMAP system, an average of 40 mails arrive each day out of the 40 about 7-10 will be spam.

Why I use a "spam delete to trash" piece of software, I'll never know because, I always check the "Trash" folder each week before emptying my "Trash" box, but it has been know over a long period of time for the odd letter to escape my notice, I would also like to point out that this takes up about 1 - 2 hours of my time each day which financially earns me about Β£2 per hour, as most correspondence is requesting me to help someone who has a problem with their gear.
Due to my wife requesting more of my time, we have agreed that certain item that I send out should be chargeable, making these changes has boosted my hourly rate to a whopping Β£5 per hour.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TonStrom ➑️
can anybody help with this?
thanks !
You sound desperate to post again within 36hrs, so I'll do my best, but as stated I run long hours.

Best Regards

Tony
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In answer to Quote-1 yes this can be done, but I would a couple of pictures taken from the inside of your compex.
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