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I find a break for a shower in the middle of a mix helps
Old 22nd August 2002
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I find a break for a shower in the middle of a mix helps

I get great ideas for mix strategies when taking a mid mix shower!

I recommend it...!!!

Anyone else have a 'mix break' favorite?

(keep it clean!)

Bob Clearmountain takes a nap.... mid afternoon..

heh
Old 22nd August 2002
  #2
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Do you take it by yourself or with the band?

-R
Old 22nd August 2002
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jon
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A nap and a shower are two great ideas!

I like to get outside...I'll rollerblade out to get some food rather than sending an assistant and staying holed up in the CR.
Old 22nd August 2002
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Jax
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M&M's

I don't need coffee... being strung highly enough without it. My tolerance for caffeine is way too low. Maybe if I had started out drinking coffee when I was younger it would make sense, but ...

For me plain M&M's do the trick. It takes a few minutes for the sugar and chocolate to charge my blood, but once it happens I'm recharged and running at a better level than I was previously.

Luckily, sometimes I get the same effect from brushing my teeth!
Old 22nd August 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by RKrizman
Do you take it by yourself or with the band?

-R
Aurghhh, I guess that depends on the band... I've been know on long sessions to get a complete change of clothes dry cleaned * scrink wrapped, and I'll stick it in the lounge freezer.... Changing into a set of fresh, chilly clothes, (as odd as it is) refreshens the hell outta me. The shower is better, but, uhm, well, I'll sit down & shut the hell up now.
Old 22nd August 2002
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I had the two stunners of a late teens all girl band play 'mermaids' in my bathtub for about 4 hours, of course I had to go in there and see if they were ok for candles and stuff! You know, be helpfull like....

heh

Go see em yourself, (but with more than a swim suit on) at the site below in the Artists Modern section of The Library - "Twist". They argued too much and split up recently.... Shame.

E-cue

1) your CD is burnt!
2) If we are ever in the same studio complex, remind me NOT to put my chineese deep fried squid in garlic batter leftovers in the same place as your fresh duds!

heh
Old 22nd August 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jules

E-cue

1) your CD is burnt!
2) If we are ever in the same studio complex, remind me NOT to put my chineese deep fried squid in garlic batter leftovers in the same place as your fresh duds!
heh
1) Take your time. That CD rom on "How To Mix Like A World Class Engineer Like Jules" is no rush.

2) No wonder my boxers smelt like Sushi... I thought I was shackin' with the wrong females for a minute.
Old 22nd August 2002
  #8
That was the sick squid I owed ya!

(London Joke)

My CD resume & begging video to become your runner / assistant (free case of beer!?) will be with you shortly!
Old 22nd August 2002
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i find a good shag does the trick.
Old 22nd August 2002
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Re: I find a break for a shower in the middle of a mix helps

Quote:
Originally posted by Jules
I get great ideas for mix strategies when taking a mid mix shower!

I recommend it...!!!

Anyone else have a 'mix break' favorite?

(keep it clean!)

Bob Clearmountain takes a nap.... mid afternoon..

heh
I hear you Jules,

If applicable, stepping away from the mix really helps me build a better mix.

Taking a nap or shower, even a movie break is key for me when I have the budget and/or the time to simmer the mix.

Sometimes you just need the space to clear your mind. Sort of like when you cleanse your taste buds with a piece of ginger in between bites of Sushi. heh

That kind of freedom makes for a better mix everytime.
Old 22nd August 2002
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During mixes, I take a little trip to the local skatepark for a little physical abuse... er, excercise.
Although a shower works as well, and it isn't as painful...

Ian
Old 22nd August 2002
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well, I don't allow people to smoke in the CR, so I go outside for a cigarette. I don't ven smoke regulary.. but I Dunhill and 10-15min outside help alot.... I call it my little antenna, cause I get my ideas then.
Old 22nd August 2002
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Smoking (cigarettes) is outlawed in my CR as well. I don't smoke, but I do take about 3 ear breaks a day, which include walking outside. You know that feeling you get after leaving a chilly resturant and walking into the warm sunlight?.... Ah... Thought nirvana.
Old 22nd August 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by e-cue
Smoking (cigarettes) is outlawed in my CR as well.
Hey, maybe you LA guys can explain a couple of these cigarrette issues. Why is it that cigarettes are not allowed in the control room but fatties are? Or are they? What about the in tracking room? The lounge? How does this fit with California's anti-tobacco laws?

What happens when you're working with a producer or an artist who smokes? I remember seeing a special on the Country, Rhythm & Blues record where Don Was pretty much had a Marlboro lit the whole time - would they make him stand outside? It seems to me that if I were renting a room for $2000 a day, I'd feel free to do pretty much anything I wanted, up to jacking off while sitting on the couch...

I'm not trying to cause trouble here - I'm a smoker who doesn't allow smoking in the control room either ( only the break room - and I usually go outside, too).
Old 22nd August 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dave Martin


Hey, maybe you LA guys can explain a couple of these cigarrette issues. Why is it that cigarettes are not allowed in the control room but fatties are? Or are they? What about the in tracking room? The lounge? How does this fit with California's anti-tobacco laws?

What happens when you're working with a producer or an artist who smokes? I remember seeing a special on the Country, Rhythm & Blues record where Don Was pretty much had a Marlboro lit the whole time - would they make him stand outside? It seems to me that if I were renting a room for $2000 a day, I'd feel free to do pretty much anything I wanted, up to jacking off while sitting on the couch...

I'm not trying to cause trouble here - I'm a smoker who doesn't allow smoking in the control room either ( only the break room - and I usually go outside, too).
I do not smoke. I do not do drugs. For me, cigarette smoke effs my eyes up really bad, I hate it, it bugs me, and it distracts my sanctuary I call the control room. It fatigues me as well. I look at my watch thinking it's midnight, and it will be 10 pm. I get home, and smell it all over myself. This, to me, is VERY disgusting. I mean, this is mostly smoke that was in someone else's body, kinda like deadly farts that stick to you. I love Don's music, I just don't want his stank on me, so yes, I would ask him to go into the lounge if he had to smoke. This type of air pollution that is this close to me bothers me. If my artist/producer/A&R/assistant/etc wants to smoke, the lounge is their haven. Or the patio. These are places I expect to suffer through someone else's cancer air. California's tobacco law is kinda...well, let's face it, I've seen artists toke crack pipes in the live room. I do however enjoy the fact that I can goto clubs now, as all clubs now have outside designated smoking areas.
As for fattys (again, I do not smoke them either) they do not bug my eyes. The smoke isn't unpleasant to me. And when I go home, I'm not forced to take a shower to get the hydrogen cyanide, tar, and nicotine smell out of my hair.
Some people might look at this differently, but to each his/her own. Some people don't allow smoke (of any kind) in the control room because it isn't good for the gear. (you know how you see those "Used in a smoke free studio" ads?) I try not to preach, but I still try to let people know my disapproval. Smoke if you want, just not in my control room.

[note: To this day, I've never had a problem when I ask someone to take their smokes outside]
Old 22nd August 2002
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tobacco smoke and pot smoke are totally different animals. pot smoke doesnt have that residual coating that tobacco smoke does. you can clear out a filled room of pot smoke in 10 minutes. tobacco smoke lingers for days on end. it stinks too, and im a smoker. pot smoke is totally different [and i dont think its bad for gear really]
Old 22nd August 2002
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Kev
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The shower idea is good ... cos it is like starting the day again. I used to do this when I did double shifts. Three showers in one day just to keep going. It catches up in the long run.

The .... 'mermaids' in my bathtub for about 4 hours ...

mmmm I don't think I could get any work done after that.


"a good shag does the trick." ... I wish ... and again I'd get no work done after that!


A few laps in GT on the PS2.

A game of table tennis ... outside where the rules are different and the wind changes the game immensely. Start a competition and again you'll get no more work done.

We don't seem to get much work done at my palce ???
Old 23rd August 2002
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The shower idea is great. There is nothing worse than being in a small room with a person who reeks of sweat when trying to concentrate.

So I usually tell the drummer to take one. grggt

OK. For fresh ideas, I would step out for a bite to eat. There is a good cheap Thai place in my neighborhood, good sushi, good creps, whatever.

The morning shower is when I get most of my ideas. Afternoon showers are only for post-shag or bicycle ride cleanup. Too much information? :eek:
Old 24th August 2002
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We've got a shop just outside the main control room door with an outside door to a 'backyard'. All cigarettes go outside (there is a covered area for rainy days) and all 'fatties' go in the shop (since they might get busted outside, and lets face it - it smells better than tobacco). No smoke of either kind in the control room. I've never had any client bitch (my former recording mentor bitched though).

My favorite mix break is to go home and finish the mix tomorrow. Obviously that only works on the bands with a 2 days per song mixing budget. With the bands that mix the whole record in one or two days (or half a day!) - I'm lucky to get a coffee break or maybe a burrito break if I'm lucky. But the guys who let me sleep get better mixes!
Old 24th August 2002
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Mix, Mix, Mix.........

Frisbee break.

Mix, Mix.........

Afternoon nap.

Mix, Mix, Mix.........


Brian T


P.S. A 15-20 minute nap works wonders. Too long a nap though, and I'm screwed. Mr. Grog for the rest of the day.

Also, now that I mix on a DAW, I frequently hop between songs for a fresh perspective. That works well for me, probably because I'm hyper, and am gifted with the approximate attention span of the common house fly.
Old 24th August 2002
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Kev
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Quote:
Originally posted by BrianT

Frisbee break.


Frisbee !

Does anyone know what Frisbee golf is?
Old 24th August 2002
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They had this really good frisbee golf park in Orlando... Off Colonial drive. Great pleace to throw frisbees into chains hangin' off a pole & pick up chicks.
Old 25th August 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dave Martin


Hey, maybe you LA guys can explain a couple of these cigarrette issues. Why is it that cigarettes are not allowed in the control room but fatties are? Or are they? What about the in tracking room? The lounge? How does this fit with California's anti-tobacco laws?

What happens when you're working with a producer or an artist who smokes? I remember seeing a special on the Country, Rhythm & Blues record where Don Was pretty much had a Marlboro lit the whole time - would they make him stand outside? It seems to me that if I were renting a room for $2000 a day, I'd feel free to do pretty much anything I wanted, up to jacking off while sitting on the couch...

I'm not trying to cause trouble here - I'm a smoker who doesn't allow smoking in the control room either ( only the break room - and I usually go outside, too).
I don;t allow smoking in the studio because I don;t own it, I work for a guy ( well the enite organization ) who doesn't smoke , so outside it is.. makes those stressful sessions last way to long whith all those trips outside...
Old 25th August 2002
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jon
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FWIW...I don't smoke...but we allow clients to smoke anywhere they want (although I ask our assistants to try to discourage folks from *rolling their own* on the SSL...the outboard racks are better for that).

For that kind of money, I reckon the clients should all feel comfy, including smokers.

The best defense is an efficient yet quiet air con system!
Old 25th August 2002
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Don
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Quote:
Originally posted by e-cue
They had this really good frisbee golf park in Orlando... Off Colonial drive. Great pleace to throw frisbees into chains hangin' off a pole & pick up chicks.
They have on on Orange Ave,Orlando also..Great fun, then you go to Brian's Resturant.Ahhh greasy spoon..
Old 25th August 2002
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Man do I miss Duff's..... Oh and Broadway pizza....... The Ale house..... Damn, time to book a flight to Orlando.

As far as the smoking issue, the studio would let me smoke crack anywhere I want to. But if I had a desk office job, I would ask people to smoke outside as well. I like lighting a stick of Nag Champa from time to time, but I always poll the room first, because some people don't like incense. I just try to be polite.
Old 25th August 2002
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I always shower between editing and voice overs. (radio shows)
Puts me in a new head space. rollz Sometimes I need to shower after agency ***** are over.
Old 29th August 2002
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The cigarettes and fatties go outside, out of respect for the gear.
I'm in a rural area with nothing close at hand so the band usually comes and stays for the tracking. The studio is right next to the house and breaks are usually taken in the house listening to tunes that have zip to do with the stuff we are tracking or mixing. I have a large collection of music here so there is always something that is new to the band and I enjoy turning folks onto stuff they haven't heard before. No greasey spoons close, so meals are a big deal here and cooking is one of my specialities so we always have a great evening meal break with large curry feasts or 'cues with great salads. Most of the bands that come get into this as well and bring lots of food and great wines and beers that compliment the feasts. There is a great swimming hole just down the road, so summer swims are also a possiblity.
Since the band is usually here we start with a big breakfast and are recording or mixing usually by 10 am and then we break for a quick lunch around 2pm and go back at it until 6 or so when we stop for beer and cheese or samoes, around 10 pm when we stop for our evening feast. sometimes we do an after meal session but usually we just kick back and get an early start the next day. That evening meal is a good time to listen to roughs of the days work and make production and mix decisions. So lots of breaks and food with the booze keeps things fairly productive. Take care Logan
Old 29th August 2002
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richmondj
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I find another hit on the crack pipe helps....

Well, ok, I dont do that at all.

If I have the time I might go out for 1/2 an hour and cycle around Brixton and look at all the freaks, or work out with weights.
If I dont have th einclination to do either of those I find a bit of guitar playing helps... just warmup, chromatics/diatonic scales or even a bit of yoga.

heh
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